TotalAlisa said:

We bash B all the time. I wish B would sit her ass down somewhere and wait a year to release another album, a doll collection, a new phone, a spanish album, a deluxe dvd set, a clothing line...GIRL SIT DOWN!

paisleypark4 said:

your missing something....perfume...and something else...i'll have to think about it and report back.

sosgemini said:

midnightmover said:

Or maybe it is the whole real story! You're assuming something, without a shred of real insight and boom, "Janet's lying!" It's in her interest and less risky to tour with a hit album than to tour with a dud album!

Hello!? They are paying big bucks to sign her! So of course she will try to work together with them and try to accomodate them! If everything goes like planned, then she will tour next year and the whole thing has only been postponed by one year!

Other than that, read my previous response for possible reasons why she doesn't tour this year!

Like it or not, Janet has clearly crossed over into the "Hits" stage of her career, where her older material is looked upon more fondly than her new material, and where many find her new material less exciting. I realize I don't speak for everyone, and some people do love her new material. This is not to say that she shouldn't put out new music or only play the Hits on tour.

This happens to all artists who have long term careers. The best example is the Rolling Stones. They're muscians,so they continue to write and release albums, sometimes creating some decent material. But hardly anyone really cares, and people attend all of those sold out Stones tours to hear the older stuff.

Janet's real value now is as a touring artist. It doesn't matter how bad her recent albums are doing, because fans know that there is more to the shows than the recent songs. She'll sell out (or nearly sell out) a tour as soon as she announces one.

So her focus on another new album is just silly. She's a "producer artist", meaning she greenlights what producers write, maybe adding her own take or flourishes hear or there. She's not a singer-songwriter, so for her to act like she needs time to "concentrate" on a new album is crap.

I guess it's plausible that a new record company would want her to tour after releasing a record on their lable, so the tour can drive sales, but I really don't buy it.

Get out on stage Janet and dance your ass off, it's what the fans want.

PatrickS77 said:

Well, let's put it this way. If Janet is waiting for a hit album to tour with, then she never needs to worry about straining those aging limbs on a nationwide trek ever again.
[Edited 10/18/07 11:17am]

coltrane3 said:

Oh, boy... here we go again! Yeah, it's totally unthinkable that a new record company wants to participate in the tour profits by it's new aquired artist... right, Janet's lying!

midnightmover said:

Well, if her next album bombs again and she doesn't go on tour, then you can say she has been lying, but until that happens let's reserve judgment (I hope that was the right term)!
[Edited 10/18/07 11:17am]

PatrickS77 said:

Reread, specifically, the "I guess it's plausible" paragraph. I agree with you, the new record company may very well want to use the tour for themselves. But, I simply think there could be other reasons.

sosgemini said:

she doesn't take her fame for granted?
You're kidding me right?

That was great.
you got any others

coltrane3 said:

The "Oh, boy... here we go again! referred to your whole post, the rest referred to your last remark! I've read very well, what you have written! Thank you!

Somebody make me understand what's with all the bashing. She's lying, she's lazy, she's a bullshitter. She's not going on tour, so the fuck what. If she's making another album, fine, whatever. She's making money regardless. It seems to me the people on here with negative comments are just here to get a rouse out of JJ fans. Because it doesn't make sense, if you don't like her or her music, shut the fuck up and go to another topic.

We gotta give her credit,though.She was smart to do the Tyler Perry film.It's a huge success and for the first time in years,she's connected to a successful project for a change.

Now all she needs is a great album and she will be completely back on track.

Why does't someone just start a "I Hate Janet Jackson" thread. This way all the Janet haters can get it out of their systems. Like I posted before, I am willing to bet that the majority of these Janet haters all bumped to her music at one time or another. I guess after Superbowl, it became fashionable to bash Janet Jackson. Crucify the Black woman and kiss that White boys ass.

SoulAlive said:

true dat.

totaldiva said:

oh calm down...if you can't handle critical opinion then the org is not for you.

sosgemini said:

i'm just dissappointed that the artist that was my number 2, has failed to live up her greatness.

totaldiva said:

why don't you go home to mommy and cry to her about it. janet messed up. i'm not talking about super bowl, either. i'm talking about not touring for damita jo (because it didn't do well) and blaming politics for her reason, and i'm talking about not touring for 20 yo (because it didn't do well) and now blaming some other lame reason for that.

janet jackson has been in the business long enough to know what she has to do, she just doesn't want to do it. just like she sat there and waited for tyler perry to come to her defense in that recent cbs interview, janet also wants other people to keep her career strong.

well, if janet can't be bothered to support her own career, why should i be?

ehuffnsd said:

I think this is what it comes down to for a lot of fans. We can't always be in mode.

JackieBlue said:

we want her to do better. and with Why Did I... it's a step? musically we want the tough control janet...the janet that said, "because of my skin, I've been told no too many times" the janet that said, "straighten numbers so you can get it right one time!"
We need strong African American Women back in the industry. You know what? Ciara is almost to that point. Let her make a strong empowering album for women with hot dance cuts on it and watch her explode

So i guess if janet was from a poor background and slept her way to the top like madonna to get a record deal... then you guys would say janet is just as talented....

OH PLEASE.. madonna could NOT even perform a show like the Velvet rope, RN, and Janet tour.. if she even tried... she has YET to amaze me with her dancing abilities.. (and she said it herself she is NOT the best sing nor dancer.. if madonna can admit this.. this her fans and media needs to as well)

This is the problem. She never takes responsibility for her own actions. For instance, we all know she's been doing sexually explicit photos for years now, but when she was asked about it last year she said it was the photographers telling her what to do. If you believe that then you're basically saying she's extremely weak. If not, then you're saying she's extremely dishonest. Personally I feel she's both and it's one of many reasons I can't respect her. It's a mystery to me how anyone can, but hey that's just me.

paisleypark4 said:

I wonder if that was really ever Janet to begin with...

midnightmover said:

That interview was probably the most eye-opening in awhile. After that I was like fuhgeddaboutit.

JackieBlue said:

This is the point I think even the disillusioned Janet fans are running away from. It's not that she's lost anything. It's just that the whole thing was an illusion from the start. Look how hugely her lyrics went downhill after secret songwriting partner Rene left. It wasn't just a slight dip, it was a twenty-four-story-suicide-jump. It's hard to think that was just coincidence. Look at the huge change in her performances from '84 to '86. Was that because Janet improved or just because someone hired Paula Abdul to choreograph her? The answer seems obvious to me. As for the tough attitude, that seems to me to have been dictated more by the tough sound of Jam and Lewis than anything else. And let's not forget Janet has always been an actress. So like you said I don't think she ever really was that in the first place. But then, I never did.
[Edited 10/19/07 12:42pm]

totaldiva said:

Well, we've all done things in the past we're ashamed of. You'll probably find a lot of orgers were bumping to Milli Vanilli back in the day too. That don't mean they gonna lick out MV's asses for ever more.

TotalAlisa said:

VR and janet are basically the same tour.

TotalAlisa said:

No offense, but it sounds like as if you are comparing Madonna to Mozart, not Janet Jackson. Janet Jackson is a mediocre singer with choreographed dance moves. How is she more talented than Madonna?

EDIT: I am not arguing that Madonna is a phenomenal singer or dancer. Because she is not.
[Edited 10/19/07 12:50pm]

SoulAlive said:

I agree. Perhaps she should further pursue work in film?

Rodya24 said:

From just skimming the other thread it seemed like even the Janet fans who were praising the film weren't saying all that much about her performance. It sounds like other people in the film were shining brighter. Which is no surprise. Janet's acting has always been a little.....flat.