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Printableto be honest, her albums are more like Jimmy Jam And Terry Lewis projects to me, like the Mo Money soundtrack was. I kinda lose interest if they're not down. | |
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Rodya24 said: Well, considering her minimal to nonexistent musical talents, I think Janet Jackson has had an amazing run of fifteen years from 1986 to 2001. Most people are not that blessed.
tell me about it...madonna and janet are very lucky in that respect.  Space for sale... | |
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It's about time she dumped them. They haven't done anything interesting in YEARS. | |
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sosgemini said: Rodya24 said: Well, considering her minimal to nonexistent musical talents, I think Janet Jackson has had an amazing run of fifteen years from 1986 to 2001. Most people are not that blessed.
tell me about it...madonna and janet are very lucky in that respect. 
Perhaps people should start becoming resigned to the fact that Janet Jackson is moving on to other things like film. And she seems to be in love with this Jermaine Dupri person. Perhaps she will take some time off to have children. If this album is good, then that will be a bonus for those people who have been fans for over a decade. If not, it is not like the music of Control and RN1814 will sound worse. | |
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Rodya24 said: sosgemini said: tell me about it...madonna and janet are very lucky in that respect.
Perhaps people should start becoming resigned to the fact that Janet Jackson is moving on to other things like film. And she seems to be in love with this Jermaine Dupri person. Perhaps she will take some time off to have children. If this album is good, then that will be a bonus for those people who have been fans for over a decade. If not, it is not like the music of Control and RN1814 will sound worse. Janet's not going to have kids. I wonder how her new film will do. It seems like it will be a successful project, and she has already done more promo for it than she did for the entire 20 Y.O. album. It was a good idea to do this movie. | |
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VoicesCarry said: Rodya24 said:
Perhaps people should start becoming resigned to the fact that Janet Jackson is moving on to other things like film. And she seems to be in love with this Jermaine Dupri person. Perhaps she will take some time off to have children. If this album is good, then that will be a bonus for those people who have been fans for over a decade. If not, it is not like the music of Control and RN1814 will sound worse. Janet's not going to have kids. I wonder how her new film will do. It seems like it will be a successful project, and she has already done more promo for it than she did for the entire 20 Y.O. album. It was a good idea to do this movie. Why do you think she will not have children? | |
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I refuse to believe this.
banks said: At a recent press conference to promote "Why Did I Get Married?," Janet confirmed that as of now Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis are not involved in her upcoming album that she is currently recording:
Janet, are you finished with your next album? What direction are you taking? Janet Jackson: "No, I'm working on it. It'll be out probably first quarter of next year. I'm doing something, still being who I am, I'll never shy from that. I'm working with a few people. I'm working with Ne-Yo, I'm working with Jermaine, working with Rodney Jenkins…" (Tyler Perry points at himself and everyone laughs) Lamman Rucker: "They'll be doing a duet together." Janet Jackson: "This is something different for me because normally it's myself, Jimmy [Jam] and Terry [Lewis] and always writing music and myself writing the melodies. This is a bit of a departure from [that]." So Jimmy and Terry are not involved? Janet Jackson: "As of now, no." White Americans, what? Nothing better to do? Why don't you kick yourself out? You're an immigrant too. -White Stripes | |
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floetcist said: I refuse to believe this.
banks said: At a recent press conference to promote "Why Did I Get Married?," Janet confirmed that as of now Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis are not involved in her upcoming album that she is currently recording:
Janet, are you finished with your next album? What direction are you taking? Janet Jackson: "No, I'm working on it. It'll be out probably first quarter of next year. I'm doing something, still being who I am, I'll never shy from that. I'm working with a few people. I'm working with Ne-Yo, I'm working with Jermaine, working with Rodney Jenkins…" (Tyler Perry points at himself and everyone laughs) Lamman Rucker: "They'll be doing a duet together." Janet Jackson: "This is something different for me because normally it's myself, Jimmy [Jam] and Terry [Lewis] and always writing music and myself writing the melodies. This is a bit of a departure from [that]." So Jimmy and Terry are not involved? Janet Jackson: "As of now, no." Why? | |
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Rodya24 said: VoicesCarry said: Janet's not going to have kids. I wonder how her new film will do. It seems like it will be a successful project, and she has already done more promo for it than she did for the entire 20 Y.O. album. It was a good idea to do this movie. Why do you think she will not have children?  If she wanted to, she would have already. She's been saying "I hope to start a family" for years, because that's what female stars are supposed to say to the press, but I just don't think it's going to happen. | |
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VoicesCarry said: Rodya24 said: Why do you think she will not have children? If she wanted to, she would have already. She's been saying "I hope to start a family" for years, because that's what female stars are supposed to say to the press, but I just don't think it's going to happen.Yeah, sometimes I get that impression from her interviews as well. | |
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Cinnie said: to be honest, her albums are more like Jimmy Jam And Terry Lewis projects to me, like the Mo Money soundtrack was. I kinda lose interest if they're not down.
The only non JJ&TL albums she has in her back catalog is Janet Jackson and Dreamstreet. A lot of people were under the impression that she didn't work with them in 20YO (I've heard comments like 'Janet bring back Jimmy and Terry!') because their appearance was nearly transparent. The only sings released were the Jermaine Dupri produced. Ugh. "Enjoy" should of been the first single. Then I'd follow it up with "So Excited". Had she not been banlisting from MTV/FCC in 2004, there'd be no 'endpoint 2001'. Damita Jo was a great album, and much better then All For You. But AFY had the commercial success, and sold a little more over 600K in the first day/week. White Americans, what? Nothing better to do? Why don't you kick yourself out? You're an immigrant too. -White Stripes | |
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Sonically, I like what JJ & TL always managed to do with Janet's paper-thin vocals.
They found ways to created templates in the 80s and 90s for her: the uptempo song giggle, the vampy seductress, the socially aware activist. Their choices of sounds, vibes and session musicians created a soundscape that complemented her limited voice. I don't have the same confidence in the producers she's using for this album. But, time will tell. | |
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floetcist said: Cinnie said: to be honest, her albums are more like Jimmy Jam And Terry Lewis projects to me, like the Mo Money soundtrack was. I kinda lose interest if they're not down.
The only non JJ&TL albums she has in her back catalog is Janet Jackson and Dreamstreet. A lot of people were under the impression that she didn't work with them in 20YO (I've heard comments like 'Janet bring back Jimmy and Terry!') because their appearance was nearly transparent. The only sings released were the Jermaine Dupri produced. Ugh. "Enjoy" should of been the first single. Then I'd follow it up with "So Excited". Had she not been banlisting from MTV/FCC in 2004, there'd be no 'endpoint 2001'. Damita Jo was a great album, and much better then All For You. But AFY had the commercial success, and sold a little more over 600K in the first day/week. Have you ever thought that people are becoming tired of her? While AFY did well in its first week, I was under the impression that it did not do overall as well as her previous efforts, such as .janet. Nor did the tour sell out. Also, were there not stadiums which were not full? Moreover, the promotion on the part of both Virgin Records and Janet Jackson herself have been laughable at best, in particular their choice of singles and the timing of the single releases. The fact that both 20 YO and Damita Jo did terrible overseas (in terms of sales) must point to the fact that her commercial decline is not based on her "ban" from MTV alone. Because the rest of the world could not give a shit whether or not she exposed her breast on national TV. | |
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ThreadBare said: Sonically, I like what JJ & TL always managed to do with Janet's paper-thin vocals.
They found ways to created templates in the 80s and 90s for her: the uptempo song giggle, the vampy seductress, the socially aware activist. Their choices of sounds, vibes and session musicians created a soundscape that complemented her limited voice. I don't have the same confidence in the producers she's using for this album. But, time will tell. I still remember that performance she did on the Rosie O'Donnell show back in 1997. It was called an "acoustic" performance but she was lipsynching "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: I still remember that performance she did on the Rosie O'Donnell show back in 1997. It was called an "acoustic" performance but she was lipsynching lol..... | |
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bboy87 said: ThreadBare said: Sonically, I like what JJ & TL always managed to do with Janet's paper-thin vocals.
They found ways to created templates in the 80s and 90s for her: the uptempo song giggle, the vampy seductress, the socially aware activist. Their choices of sounds, vibes and session musicians created a soundscape that complemented her limited voice. I don't have the same confidence in the producers she's using for this album. But, time will tell. I still remember that performance she did on the Rosie O'Donnell show back in 1997. It was called an "acoustic" performance but she was lipsynching I think I saw that performance on YouTube. Was she singing something with "lonely" in the lyrics? I cannot for the life of me remember the song title. | |
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Graycap23 said: bboy87 said: I still remember that performance she did on the Rosie O'Donnell show back in 1997. It was called an "acoustic" performance but she was lipsynching lol..... http://www.youtube.com/wa...hYihBTV1NA "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: 
Why would she lip-synch this song? It is a slow song. She cannot be that bad of a singer.... | |
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Rodya24 said: Why does she have to have her partner involved in her new album? First Rene, now Jermaine.
I imagine it makes it easier for her - her career is her LIFE (has to be to get to that level w/ so little vocal talent) so having them involved means having them around means keeping her happy... I imagine...   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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DawnD said: CalhounSq said: Somebody hip me - what have Jimmy & Terry done in the last, lets say 7 years that's been SO great that Janet NEEDS them @ this point in time?
 I'm not being an ass, I really haven't followed them since working w/ her.
I know they worked magic w/ her back in the day but everybody's gotta evolve & I wonder if they have
For the record, I liked 20 Y.O., I have no clue why it didn't do better  ...Because she's 40. She's no longer in her twenties, that's why. Nah, that ain't it. I really think it was the bunk ass videos & choosing a mid tempo song as the lead off - Call On Me is one of the weakest on the album & the video was dreadful. She wasn't doing anything new, looked like some green screen romper room bullshit. If it's b/c she's 40, somebody tell me what Madonna was selling 9 years ago It's not her age, it's something else... I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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bboy87 said: ThreadBare said: Sonically, I like what JJ & TL always managed to do with Janet's paper-thin vocals.
They found ways to created templates in the 80s and 90s for her: the uptempo song giggle, the vampy seductress, the socially aware activist. Their choices of sounds, vibes and session musicians created a soundscape that complemented her limited voice. I don't have the same confidence in the producers she's using for this album. But, time will tell. I still remember that performance she did on the Rosie O'Donnell show back in 1997. It was called an "acoustic" performance but she was lipsynching She was NOT lipping. Folks just don't want to and refuse to give her credit for very little to anything. When it seems like she may impress someone with what she has, folks can hear it, look right at it and deny it all at the same time. Why waste time bashing if some don't give a shit in the first place? Again, there are an array of artists to enjoy and choose from if Janet and her efforts are less than a damn to some or perhaps even many! | |
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DawnD said: CalhounSq said: Somebody hip me - what have Jimmy & Terry done in the last, lets say 7 years that's been SO great that Janet NEEDS them @ this point in time?
I'm not being an ass, I really haven't followed them since working w/ her.
I know they worked magic w/ her back in the day but everybody's gotta evolve & I wonder if they have
For the record, I liked 20 Y.O., I have no clue why it didn't do better ...Because she's 40. She's no longer in her twenties, that's why. So you think that when you reach a certain age, you're supposed to stop being sexual? Rubbish! | |
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This album is going to suck so bad. | |
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I don't think there's nothing else that Jam and Lewis can do for Janet.That partnership ran out of steam about 15 years ago.It's time to move on.
It's too bad that Janet isn't "moving on" with better,more creative producers,though.Ne-Yo? Jermaine Dupri?  I can already guess what the new CD will sound like. | |
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SoulAlive said: I don't think there's nothing else that Jam and Lewis can do for Janet.That partnership ran out of steam about 15 years ago.It's time to move on.
I agree. I would say you can tell Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis were running out of ideas in general by the time "janet" was released. However, Janet Jackson has never shown an ability to create music on her own, so she's at the mercy of whatever producer she uses. Also, the thing is the Flyte Tyme sound made her sound much more better than she does compared to being left to her or most anyone else's devices. [Edited 10/11/07 6:07am] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! | |
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Speedy72 said: DawnD said: ...Because she's 40. She's no longer in her twenties, that's why. So you think that when you reach a certain age, you're supposed to stop being sexual? Rubbish! Ya'll know she's suppose to stay home and bake cookies. Women in their forties are not suppose to do the same as men. They are not suppose to be on stage at that age. Men, can be musicians and continue to perform on stage at that age. Women that age cannot and should not. What the hell ever. Allot of you do know that no one is making ANYONE listen to Janet or pay any attention to her for that matter. Some, maybe even allot do it simply because they want to. What boggles me is if you do not care for a certain artist or think that a certain artist lacks talent why bother paying attention to them or wonder/worry about their up and coming project and who's producing them in the first place? I mean, if the artist lacks talent why would some care to comment on what the artist will do or don't do to begin with? I find that quite interesting. Unless, some are frontin' plain and simple and are closet fans! | |
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SoulAlive said: I don't think there's nothing else that Jam and Lewis can do for Janet.That partnership ran out of steam about 15 years ago.It's time to move on.
It's too bad that Janet isn't "moving on" with better,more creative producers,though.Ne-Yo? Jermaine Dupri? I can already guess what the new CD will sound like.I guess that's more my problem. She's working with producers that have such a limited sound right now. If music got any more stripped down, it would be an acapella (c) Vainandy That's what 20 YO sounded like in parts | |
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bboy87 said: I couldn't tell if she was lipsyncing there.  @ "Trannet" | |
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Cinnie said: SoulAlive said: I don't think there's nothing else that Jam and Lewis can do for Janet.That partnership ran out of steam about 15 years ago.It's time to move on.
It's too bad that Janet isn't "moving on" with better,more creative producers,though.Ne-Yo? Jermaine Dupri? I can already guess what the new CD will sound like.I guess that's more my problem. She's working with producers that have such a limited sound right now. If music got any more stripped down, it would be an acapella (c) Vainandy That's what 20 YO sounded like in parts There are the people Janet says she is working with prior to the album's release, and then there are the people that actually wind up on the record. They're never the same. | |
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You all must remember that Janet is now apart of the LA Reid camp and he only likes his BIG acts to work with current and happening producers/writers. Jam and Lewis are definitely out as "pop" songwriters.
I think LA wants Janet to achieve the type of success Mariah did with Mimi. He will have the best a&r, promotions, marketing and anything else in the business to promote this project. He will probably oversee each track (with janet) to make sure it is current and hip (yet maintaining the classic Janet feel). Now, I wouldn't b surprised if Jam and Lewis contributed a ballad or slow grind song with Janet, but that would be it. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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