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VoicesCarry said: Yeah, they had so many problems with Sharon. It was crazy. She got married, she didn't want to record, she didn't like the producers that were chosen for her, she was upset with the direction of the album, etc etc etc. They wound up with a generic-sounding record that sounded dated when it was finally released. I think they stuck her on a little Polygram subsidiary because they knew it wasn't going to go anywhere (Polygram was still a part of A&M, I believe, since some of Janet's stuff was released on Polygram internationally). Foolish Heart was OK, but not much of a lead single at that time.
Sharon Bryant's cover of "Foolish Heart" wasn't the lead single; the uptempo "Let Go" was the first single. Both songs actually were hits on the Billboard R&B Singles chart ("Let Go" peaked at No. 2; "Foolish Heart" at No. 7), but you're right in that her album was basically generic. I mentioned that Wing Records was a subsidiary of Polygram (and if anything, it would be A&M that was a part of the much larger Polygram). Bryant's issues with the release of her album were essentially a carryover of the drama that led to her leaving Atlantic Starr. She always was reportedly a difficult person with whom to work, according to the Lewis brothers. I guess it's safe to say with her personal drama and bad career choices she was the Dawn Robinson of her day. 
It's really a shame in a sense, because Bryant was one of my favorite female singers. She really gave some great performances with Atlantic Starr ("Touch a Four-Leaf Clover," "When Love Calls," "Circles"). [Edited 10/14/07 19:46pm] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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whitney's how will i know was offered to janet for control, but she turned it down. I heard that other control songs were also offered to whitney, is that true? | |
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alphastreet said: whitney's how will i know was offered to janet for control, but she turned it down. I heard that other control songs were also offered to whitney, is that true?
As far as I know, that isn't true. I'm glad Janet turned down How Will I Know. She would have been wrong for it. | |
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paisleypark4 said: TotalAlisa said: thats is an untrue rumor... LISTEN TO THE LYRICS>.. it applies to janets life.. and yes she did help create and write control.... it was about what she was dealing with in her life during that point... so NO THOSE songs could NEVER have been made before janet... lets talk about how madonna doesnt produce any of her music and barely writes her own songs.. but yet gets praised and called an icon... She's called an icon because she is a visionary. Her videos made her as well has her co-written songs. Plus she is now an artist that takes control over her career. One thig I do admit is that the music industry needs to have more than ONE female minstream producer out there (which is Missy Elliot). That's rediculous Janet's "Control" was definitley not made for anyone else. "Control" that title alone is a fuck you to Joe Jackson Janet's only Electro song is Free Xone so i guess janet NEVER had any great videos or co-written any songs 
madonna is NO more talented then janet... she just gets a lot of hype from the media... and she is definitly not in control of her career... she hasn't had a hit since the 90's.... or sold as many albums as janet during the 2000's... that doesn't look like control to me... its just looks like when madonna sells less then a million.. no one labels it a flop.. but when janet sells less then she is a flop and her career is over... why do you have these big expectations for janet to sell a million and NOT madonna (the icon that YOU GUYS claim she is)... why not put those big expectations on madonna.... since she is supposedly the bigger star |
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TotalAlisa said: paisleypark4 said: She's called an icon because she is a visionary. Her videos made her as well has her co-written songs. Plus she is now an artist that takes control over her career. One thig I do admit is that the music industry needs to have more than ONE female minstream producer out there (which is Missy Elliot). That's rediculous Janet's "Control" was definitley not made for anyone else. "Control" that title alone is a fuck you to Joe Jackson Janet's only Electro song is Free Xone so i guess janet NEVER had any great videos or co-written any songs
madonna is NO more talented then janet... she just gets a lot of hype from the media... and she is definitly not in control of her career... she hasn't had a hit since the 90's.... or sold as many albums as janet during the 2000's... that doesn't look like control to me... its just looks like when madonna sells less then a million.. no one labels it a flop.. but when janet sells less then she is a flop and her career is over... why do you have these big expectations for janet to sell a million and NOT madonna (the icon that YOU GUYS claim she is)... why not put those big expectations on madonna.... since she is supposedly the bigger star Madonna's not in control of her own career?  If she's not,then who's controlling her? Her husband?  Please....Madonna has more control than any other female in pop music.She's totally calling the shots.
And if she really didn't have any hits since the 90s,how is she able to get a new record deal worth $120 million? 
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SoulAlive said: TotalAlisa said: so i guess janet NEVER had any great videos or co-written any songs
madonna is NO more talented then janet... she just gets a lot of hype from the media... and she is definitly not in control of her career... she hasn't had a hit since the 90's.... or sold as many albums as janet during the 2000's... that doesn't look like control to me... its just looks like when madonna sells less then a million.. no one labels it a flop.. but when janet sells less then she is a flop and her career is over... why do you have these big expectations for janet to sell a million and NOT madonna (the icon that YOU GUYS claim she is)... why not put those big expectations on madonna.... since she is supposedly the bigger star Madonna's not in control of her own career? If she's not,then who's controlling her? Her husband? Please....Madonna has more control than any other female in pop music.She's totally calling the shots.
And if she really didn't have any hits since the 90s,how is she able to get a new record deal worth $120 million?
. [Edited 10/15/07 7:04am] okay whow... she is in control... but it doesnt matter because she doesnt have any hits, or selling millions... so whats the point... ???? If your going to be in control... then you should have millions of albums sold and hit songs |
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alphastreet said: whitney's how will i know was offered to janet for control, but she turned it down. I heard that other control songs were also offered to whitney, is that true?
OOOOOH MY GOOD.. are you serious.... seriously... please.. do you really think they would even create those songs for whiteny houston.... whitney doesnt have the spunk or attitude to do what janet did with control.... Janet took it to another level..... and do you really think janet wanted to sing those whitney houston songs... i was born right before control... feb 1986.. and even i know that rumour is so not true |
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I Wanna Dance With Somebody was originally intended for Janet but also turned down.
Think about it folks, who the hell would write a song about dancing for Whitney? [ps...damn youtube for not having a clip of rhythmless nation.] Space for sale... | |
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TotalAlisa said: paisleypark4 said: She's called an icon because she is a visionary. Her videos made her as well has her co-written songs. Plus she is now an artist that takes control over her career. One thig I do admit is that the music industry needs to have more than ONE female minstream producer out there (which is Missy Elliot). That's rediculous Janet's "Control" was definitley not made for anyone else. "Control" that title alone is a fuck you to Joe Jackson Janet's only Electro song is Free Xone so i guess janet NEVER had any great videos or co-written any songs
madonna is NO more talented then janet... she just gets a lot of hype from the media... and she is definitly not in control of her career... she hasn't had a hit since the 90's.... or sold as many albums as janet during the 2000's... that doesn't look like control to me... its just looks like when madonna sells less then a million.. no one labels it a flop.. but when janet sells less then she is a flop and her career is over... why do you have these big expectations for janet to sell a million and NOT madonna (the icon that YOU GUYS claim she is)... why not put those big expectations on madonna.... since she is supposedly the bigger star I understand that you don't like madonna, and no one is forcing you to, but you sound delusional when it comes to sales. Madonna has outsold Janet by a long shot during the 00's Albums: Music-3 million US, 15 million worldwide, #1 US American Life-1 million US, 5 million worldwide, #1 US Confessions on a Dancefloor-2 million US, 9 million worldwide #1 US All For You-3 million US, 6 million worldwide, #1 US Damita Jo-1 million US, 3 million worldwide, #2 US 20 Y.O. a little over half a million US, 2 million worldwide #2 US As far as US singles, janet had 3 top 5 singles this decade so far, including 2 #1's (doesn't really matter, all for you, someone to call my lover) and madonna has had 2 top 5 singles, Music and Don't Tell Me, as well as 2 top 10 hits Die Another Day and Hung Up. and face it, where I'm from (definitely not the US, and not that far either), madonna is still big news. Janet is liked overall, but madonna is far more popular. It's not uncommon to hear madonna classics on the radio everyday, and even hung up and sorry. It's not uncommon to hear confessions on a dancefloor tracks in different stores either. I'm a huge fan of both artists, but facts are facts, and I'm not willing to let my janet fandom get in the way of facts. Janet was always a big star in north america and japan, whereas madonna is huge worldwide. [Edited 10/15/07 15:35pm] [Edited 10/15/07 15:38pm] | |
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