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Thread started 10/08/07 11:53pm

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Whitney's "Saving All My Love For You" about Jermaine Jackson??

This is what someone told me:

Whitney was actually an affair of Jermaine's while he was married to Hazel. She alluded years ago that she considered the song "Saving All My Love For You" to be about she and Jermaine. And that Michael tried to 'gently break it to her about how his brother was with women', but she didn't listen at the time. Whitney may have caught another bullet in the end, but she at least dodged the bullet that was Jermaine eighty-trillion-ex-wife-and-baby-mama-having Jackson.

Peep the lyrics....


A few stolen moments is all that we share
You've got your family, and they need you there
Though I've tried to resist, being last on your list
But no other man's gonna do
So I'm saving all my love for you

It's not very easy, living all alone
My friends try and tell me, find a man of my own
But each time I try, I just break down and cry
Cause I'd rather be home feeling blue
So I'm saving all my love for you

You used to tell me we'd run away together
Love gives you the right to be free
You said be patient, just wait a little longer
But that's just an old fantasy


Hmm. Sounds about right to me...even though she didn't pen them, she said she felt 'em


Here's them together:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fwdWuYea4Oo
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Reply #1 posted 10/09/07 12:42am

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Did she write the song though?
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Reply #2 posted 10/09/07 1:34am

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whodknee said:

Did she write the song though?


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Has she ever?

This one definetly not. It was written by Gerry Goffin.



On the other hand - the guy in the video did look A BIT like Jermaine... shrug
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Reply #3 posted 10/09/07 2:17am

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Alot of people think Whitney recorded this song first,but it was actually first recorded in 1978 by Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis Jr lol
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Reply #4 posted 10/09/07 2:22am

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whodknee said:

Did she write the song though?


http://www.songfacts.com/...hp?id=5847

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Reply #5 posted 10/09/07 4:26am

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whodknee said:

Did she write the song though?

She has co-written a few songs (on her albums that didn't do too well and on Bobby's "Something In Common", but other than that, she doesn't write.
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Reply #6 posted 10/09/07 4:34am

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disbelief bboy87 you really need to stop swallowing bullshit. One of these days someone's gonna take advantage of your naivete.
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Reply #7 posted 10/09/07 7:48am

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The funny thing about this song was this. Whitney's version, was not the first recorded. Marilyn McCoo, from "You dont have to be a star", fame; had recorded it a few months earlier. Because Whitney was the new sensation at that time, Marilyn's version was pulled back. Marilyn has never really got over that. But, hers was the first version.
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Reply #8 posted 10/09/07 8:00am

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shorttrini said:

The funny thing about this song was this. Whitney's version, was not the first recorded. Marilyn McCoo, from "You dont have to be a star", fame; had recorded it a few months earlier. Because Whitney was the new sensation at that time, Marilyn's version was pulled back. Marilyn has never really got over that. But, hers was the first version.

I remember Marilyn performing the song on either Solid Gold or some other show in the 80s.

I don't blame Marilyn for being upset about it, but Whitney sang it 10 times better than Marilyn ever could. Marilyn was not that great of a singer. She was just a pretty face (musically anyway). She did ok hosting Solid Gold, but her singing was never much to write home about.
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Reply #9 posted 10/09/07 9:24am

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midnightmover said:

disbelief bboy87 you really need to stop swallowing bullshit. One of these days someone's gonna take advantage of your naivete.

Uhhh no. I didn't know the song was a cover. Secondly, considering they were romantically linked back then, I thought it was possibility.

I'm not naive and I wasn't swallowing bullshit, ok? neutral
and you nor anyone else on this forum can call me naive because ya'll only know me from my words ONLINE, not in real life
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Reply #10 posted 10/09/07 9:34am

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bboy87 said:

midnightmover said:

disbelief bboy87 you really need to stop swallowing bullshit. One of these days someone's gonna take advantage of your naivete.

Uhhh no. I didn't know the song was a cover. Secondly, considering they were romantically linked back then, I thought it was possibility.

I'm not naive and I wasn't swallowing bullshit, ok? neutral
and you nor anyone else on this forum can call me naive because ya'll only know me from my words ONLINE, not in real life
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lol Uhhh, dude. Please tell me how you know they were romantically linked. I'd be really interested to know what evidence you have for that.
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Reply #11 posted 10/09/07 9:39am

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Whitney got soul but I doubt that she was singing to that greasy motherfucka. You're reading too much between the lines on that.

About this song, apparently this was the song Clive Davis wanted a pure POP sound to. The original recording was, in his words and I'm not joking, "TOO R&B (in other words too black)" and that he wanted to polish it up. One of the former A&R men from Arista (a brotha) said it also soudned too much like Aretha.

The song was probably a carbon copy of Marilyn McCoo's with the difference being Whitney's higher vocal range.
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Reply #12 posted 10/09/07 9:42am

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midnightmover said:

bboy87 said:


Uhhh no. I didn't know the song was a cover. Secondly, considering they were romantically linked back then, I thought it was possibility.

I'm not naive and I wasn't swallowing bullshit, ok? neutral
and you nor anyone else on this forum can call me naive because ya'll only know me from my words ONLINE, not in real life
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lol Uhhh, dude. Please tell me how you know they were romantically linked. I'd be really interested to know what evidence you have for that.

I'm not saying it for sure but here's a very small part from a music bio about her:
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/...raphy.html
Whitney's massive success meant she would spend the following years touring. In her personal life, after being romantically linked with Eddie Murphy and Jermaine Jackson, Whitney surprised her family and friends by marrying the bad-boy of R&B Bobby Brown

I've heard it before but then again, I've never been a fan of either. I was simply posting something a friend told me and thought some of you would be interested. That's all
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Reply #13 posted 10/09/07 9:44am

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Timmy84 said:

Whitney got soul but I doubt that she was singing to that greasy motherfucka. You're reading too much between the lines on that.

I heard it one of those VH1 specials about the 80s and ignored it but someone I know brought it up on another forum and thought," Hmmmm maybe" lol
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Reply #14 posted 10/09/07 9:47am

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bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

Whitney got soul but I doubt that she was singing to that greasy motherfucka. You're reading too much between the lines on that.

I heard it one of those VH1 specials about the 80s and ignored it but someone I know brought it up on another forum and thought," Hmmmm maybe" lol


lol They were RUMORED but I think Whitney would've known better than to tangle with Hazel Gordy, come on now. falloff

As Whitney would say, "HELL TO THE NAW!" lol
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Reply #15 posted 10/09/07 9:48am

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midnightmover said:


lol Uhhh, dude. Please tell me how you know they were romantically linked. I'd be really interested to know what evidence you have for that.

I'm not saying it for sure but here's a very small part from a music bio about her:
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/...raphy.html
Whitney's massive success meant she would spend the following years touring. In her personal life, after being romantically linked with Eddie Murphy and Jermaine Jackson, Whitney surprised her family and friends by marrying the bad-boy of R&B Bobby Brown

I've heard it before but then again, I've never been a fan of either. I was simply posting something a friend told me and thought some of you would be interested. That's all

Dude, in that context "romantically linked" merely refers to idle gossip. This is what I mean by swallowing bullshit. She never went with Jermaine or Eddie. There's no evidence she ever had any boyfriend at all before Bobby Brown. The only romance that seems to be credible before then is her alleged one with her close friend Robyn. I'm not a fan either, but even I know that.
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Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:


I heard it one of those VH1 specials about the 80s and ignored it but someone I know brought it up on another forum and thought," Hmmmm maybe" lol


lol They were RUMORED but I think Whitney would've known better than to tangle with Hazel Gordy, come on now. falloff

As Whitney would say, "HELL TO THE NAW!" lol

That's all I was saying. Romantically linked IMO means RUMORED lol
Don't count Whitney out, she might've stabbed Hazel with one of her pipes lol
She's hood like that cool lol lol
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Reply #17 posted 10/09/07 9:54am

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bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:



lol They were RUMORED but I think Whitney would've known better than to tangle with Hazel Gordy, come on now. falloff

As Whitney would say, "HELL TO THE NAW!" lol

That's all I was saying. Romantically linked IMO means RUMORED lol
Don't count Whitney out, she might've stabbed Hazel with one of her pipes lol
She's hood like that cool lol lol


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Reply #18 posted 10/09/07 9:55am

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bboy87 said:


I'm not saying it for sure but here's a very small part from a music bio about her:
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/...raphy.html
Whitney's massive success meant she would spend the following years touring. In her personal life, after being romantically linked with Eddie Murphy and Jermaine Jackson, Whitney surprised her family and friends by marrying the bad-boy of R&B Bobby Brown

I've heard it before but then again, I've never been a fan of either. I was simply posting something a friend told me and thought some of you would be interested. That's all

Dude, in that context "romantically linked" merely refers to idle gossip. This is what I mean by swallowing bullshit. She never went with Jermaine or Eddie. There's no evidence she ever had any boyfriend at all before Bobby Brown. The only romance that seems to be credible before then is her alleged one with her close friend Robyn. I'm not a fan either, but even I know that.


Nobody has ever stopped talking about this. To this fucking day, people think she and Robyn had "something goiiiiing onnnnn" and I can believe it too. I ain't hating, Nippy. lol
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Reply #19 posted 10/09/07 10:03am

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where's vainandy when we need him? I love whitney, but the jokes come easily to me
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Reply #21 posted 10/09/07 10:06am

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Timmy84 said:

midnightmover said:


Dude, in that context "romantically linked" merely refers to idle gossip. This is what I mean by swallowing bullshit. She never went with Jermaine or Eddie. There's no evidence she ever had any boyfriend at all before Bobby Brown. The only romance that seems to be credible before then is her alleged one with her close friend Robyn. I'm not a fan either, but even I know that.


Nobody has ever stopped talking about this. To this fucking day, people think she and Robyn had "something goiiiiing onnnnn" and I can believe it too. I ain't hating, Nippy. lol

These damn glitches, man. Anyway....

It's the only pre-Bobby rumour that has any credibility since her own former associates have confirmed it. It was also the most persistent rumour from back then. It wasn't one of those flash-in-the-pan rumours like the Eddie thing. It was a rumour that was constantly circling.
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Timmy84 said:



Nobody has ever stopped talking about this. To this fucking day, people think she and Robyn had "something goiiiiing onnnnn" and I can believe it too. I ain't hating, Nippy. lol

These damn glitches, man. Anyway....

It's the only pre-Bobby rumour that has any credibility since her own former associates have confirmed it. It was also the most persistent rumour from back then. It wasn't one of those flash-in-the-pan rumours like the Eddie thing. It was a rumour that was constantly circling.


So true.
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midnightmover said:

Dude, in that context "romantically linked" merely refers to idle gossip. This is what I mean by swallowing bullshit. She never went with Jermaine or Eddie. There's no evidence she ever had any boyfriend at all before Bobby Brown. The only romance that seems to be credible before then is her alleged one with her close friend Robyn. I'm not a fan either, but even I know that.[/quote]

Never cared too much, but since rumors are being shared...

Maybe, It is this (see read line) the reason I heard many times she was a lesbian... hmmm
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Reply #24 posted 10/09/07 11:04am

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I heard she was looking right at Jermaine Jackson when she sang Take Good Care of My Heart!
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alphastreet said:

where's vainandy when we need him? I love whitney, but the jokes come easily to me


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Timmy84 said:

Whitney got soul but I doubt that she was singing to that greasy motherfucka. You're reading too much between the lines on that.

About this song, apparently this was the song Clive Davis wanted a pure POP sound to. The original recording was, in his words and I'm not joking, "TOO R&B (in other words too black)" and that he wanted to polish it up.


Shitney could care less about Jermaine Jackson. Clive Davis is the one she wanted and she would do anything he wanted. Their sex pictures came out a while back. Here is one of them.....

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midnightmover said:

bboy87 said:


I'm not saying it for sure but here's a very small part from a music bio about her:
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/...raphy.html
Whitney's massive success meant she would spend the following years touring. In her personal life, after being romantically linked with Eddie Murphy and Jermaine Jackson, Whitney surprised her family and friends by marrying the bad-boy of R&B Bobby Brown

I've heard it before but then again, I've never been a fan of either. I was simply posting something a friend told me and thought some of you would be interested. That's all

Dude, in that context "romantically linked" merely refers to idle gossip. This is what I mean by swallowing bullshit. She never went with Jermaine or Eddie. There's no evidence she ever had any boyfriend at all before Bobby Brown. The only romance that seems to be credible before then is her alleged one with her close friend Robyn. I'm not a fan either, but even I know that.


I remember the press at the time saying that she was a sweet little wholesome virgin which was yet another thing that disgusted me about her. lol
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Reply #28 posted 10/09/07 11:34am

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Timmy84 said:

Whitney got soul but I doubt that she was singing to that greasy motherfucka. You're reading too much between the lines on that.

About this song, apparently this was the song Clive Davis wanted a pure POP sound to. The original recording was, in his words and I'm not joking, "TOO R&B (in other words too black)" and that he wanted to polish it up.


Shitney could care less about Jermaine Jackson. Clive Davis is the one she wanted and she would do anything he wanted. Their sex pictures came out a while back. Here is one of them.....



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tritoncin said:

Maybe, It is this (see read line) the reason I heard many times she was a lesbian... hmmm


She was too damn weak to be a lesbian. Lesbians have a mind of their own enough to sleep with what they really want, which is another woman. Shitney didn't even have enough mind of her own to record her first album the way she wanted to without listening to some old buzzard telling her she sounded too black.
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