SoulAlive said:

Agreed and I agree below that I also miss ballsy Madonna. She was not only definate and and pissed off but smart and making great art, unlike those she influences.

There will never be another Madonna...not even close.

"The next time you want pussy...just look in the mirror,baby"

SoulAlive said:

oh for fuck's sake.

This is the same lame-ass argument people put up for Prince. You people act as if any and all overt interest in sex should halt once a person hits middle age. And you know what? It's hypocrital to the Nth degree. It's okay for a cute, firm 20-something to sing about fucking and masturbation and orgies. But it's not okay for someone who's got a few years behind them? Nevermind that psychologists and sexologists agree, the majority of people are more secure in their sexuality and sure of their desires once they've had a few years to work things out. Madonna at 49 and Prince at 49 are probably better lovers now than either could've hoped to be at 19 or 29.

I don't understand this mentality: that what was cool for the younger versions of people to do would be sad and embarassing now. What's sad and embarassing IMO is people who think they need to tone any part of their behaviour down just because they're getting older.

meow85 said:

Very Good Point...people act as if people are no good anymore once they hit the age of 40!

meow85 said:

i know, exactly

lonelygurl8305 said:

Yeah, makes no sense to me. I almost expect it from people my age (Not long ago I got ragged on for going out for coffee with someone as ancient as 28, the old fart ) but more often than not it's people in their mid-30's and older who are saying it'd be innapropriate or embarassing for those old fogeys Princey and Madge to do what they've always done.

paisleypark4 said:

The problem is that she'd bitten off more than she could chew. Academic morons like Camille Paglia convinced her she was a serious artist with important things to say. So suddenly she started playing up to that and as a result her interviews stopped being any fun. Interviewers would ask her deep and important questions as though she were a professor rather than just a pop star. At first I think she loved the opportunity to pose as an intellectual, but she later admitted that it became exhausting having to answer all these far reaching questions about things she only really had a superficial understanding of. I only watched a minute of that interview you posted because I could see right away it was typical of this pretentiousness. You could see Madonna herself was bored shitless with it too, but she'd gone down this path and she had to see it through for as long as she was promoting Sex/Erotica. It's very significant that her next album was just a straightforward pop/r&b album. She'd tried to make big revolutionary statements and realised it wasn't her forte.

mimi07 said:

damn cult of youth

midnightmover said:

also it depends on who is interviewing her. if she doesn't like the person she reportly makes it known. like you see here. she also up until she met Guy she HATED London and most English interviewers

ehuffnsd said:

I've seen her being interviewed by other British journalists at the time like Jonathan Ross and it didn't seem to be an issue. What was an issue was having to pretend to be some kind of intellectual when she really wasn't. Whoever was interviewing her at that time the interviews were always boring and cringe worthy. Madonna trying to sound like a deep thinker. Before, she'd always seemed to revel in her own shallowness and naked ambition. But as people started over-analysing her work she started to buy into the bullshit and became pretentious as hell. She was never any fun again.

It still makes me vomit to think that this whore has taken the crown of Dance Queen from Donna Summer!

SoulAlive said:

I suspect you're right! He does, after all, post on every Madonna thread here! Just like all the other alleged haters around this forum...I think they're all closet fans!!

Rodya24 said:

First of, this is my favorite Madonna cd (despite the critics backlash at the time). The video for "Deeper and Deeper" showed exactly what was happening in the nightclub scene at the time (anyone remember NYC club kids). I met her at Disco 2000 (Michael Alig's infamous party at NYC Limelight-check out the film Party Monster). She partied with everyone else. No attitude, no heavy security. Her music reflected that time.