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Thread started 09/30/07 4:14pm

DarkSideOfBeau
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BILLY OCEAN

Anybody here like or know about him? Billy Ocean was an good artist back in the 80's. My favorites from him are "Caribbean Queen" , "One Of Those Nights" , etc. Anybody else like him? cool
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Reply #1 posted 09/30/07 4:18pm

Timmy84

I would say something like "Carribean Queen" but there's something endearing about "One of Those Nights (Feel Like Gettin' Down)".
[Edited 9/30/07 16:18pm]
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Reply #2 posted 09/30/07 4:22pm

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Timmy84 said:

I would say something like "Carribean Queen" but there's something endearing about "One of Those Nights (Feel Like Gettin' Down)".
[Edited 9/30/07 16:18pm]

Sorry about the error. I tend to type really fast. wink
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Reply #3 posted 09/30/07 4:29pm

Timmy84

DarkSideOfBeauty said:

Timmy84 said:

I would say something like "Carribean Queen" but there's something endearing about "One of Those Nights (Feel Like Gettin' Down)".
[Edited 9/30/07 16:18pm]

Sorry about the error. I tend to type really fast. wink


Oh that's alright. lol Carribean is a difficult word to spell. lol
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Reply #4 posted 09/30/07 4:30pm

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Timmy84 said:

DarkSideOfBeauty said:


Sorry about the error. I tend to type really fast. wink


Oh that's alright. lol Carribean is a difficult word to spell. lol

lol
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Reply #5 posted 09/30/07 4:30pm

Najee

Billy Ocean was one of the biggest examples of mid- to late 80s crossover-oriented stuff that made me vomit (basically a male Whitney Houston). However, that made my favorite song from him -- "Love Zone," with its groovy bassline and was produced by Barry Eastmond -- all the more surprising because it wasn't geared for the crossover audience.
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Reply #6 posted 09/30/07 4:31pm

Timmy84

DarkSideOfBeauty said:

Timmy84 said:



Oh that's alright. lol Carribean is a difficult word to spell. lol

lol


Either way you spell it though is still a great song though. smile
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Reply #7 posted 09/30/07 4:32pm

Timmy84

Najee said:

Billy Ocean was one of the biggest examples of mid- to late 80s crossover-oriented stuff that made me vomit (basically a male Whitney Houston). However, that made my favorite song from him -- "Love Zone," with its groovy bassline and was produced by Barry Eastmond -- all the more surprising because it wasn't geared for the crossover audience.


Yeah, I loved "Love Zone" because it was a true R&B ballad. I couldn't stand most of his pop stuff. He truly was the male Whitney Houston (or Shitney Houston as Andy says lol ).
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Reply #8 posted 09/30/07 4:32pm

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Loverboy cool
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Reply #9 posted 09/30/07 4:33pm

DarkSideOfBeau
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Timmy84 said:

DarkSideOfBeauty said:


lol


Either way you spell it though is still a great song though. smile

It sure was! smile
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Reply #10 posted 09/30/07 4:44pm

DarkSideOfBeau
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Timmy84 said:

Najee said:

Billy Ocean was one of the biggest examples of mid- to late 80s crossover-oriented stuff that made me vomit (basically a male Whitney Houston). However, that made my favorite song from him -- "Love Zone," with its groovy bassline and was produced by Barry Eastmond -- all the more surprising because it wasn't geared for the crossover audience.


Yeah, I loved "Love Zone" because it was a true R&B ballad. I couldn't stand most of his pop stuff. He truly was the male Whitney Houston (or Shitney Houston as Andy says lol ).

What is wrong with some of his pop stuff? At least his was better than Whitney's pop songs. lol
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Reply #11 posted 09/30/07 4:45pm

Timmy84

DarkSideOfBeauty said:

Timmy84 said:



Yeah, I loved "Love Zone" because it was a true R&B ballad. I couldn't stand most of his pop stuff. He truly was the male Whitney Houston (or Shitney Houston as Andy says lol ).

What is wrong with some of his pop stuff? At least his was better than Whitney's pop songs. lol


LOL! Well he did have the better voice for those. I actually dug "The Color of Love" and "Love is Forever". However, "Suddenly" was ew, lol. I guess that's a double standard, lol. I actually enjoyed his shit over Whitney's.
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Reply #12 posted 09/30/07 4:51pm

DarkSideOfBeau
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Timmy84 said:

DarkSideOfBeauty said:


What is wrong with some of his pop stuff? At least his was better than Whitney's pop songs. lol


LOL! Well he did have the better voice for those. I actually dug "The Color of Love" and "Love is Forever". However, "Suddenly" was ew, lol. I guess that's a double standard, lol. I actually enjoyed his shit over Whitney's.

I agree! "Suddenly" was the only song from him that I don't like too much. nod
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Reply #13 posted 09/30/07 5:00pm

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How about 'When The Going Gets Tough', a bit cheesy maybe. neutral
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Reply #14 posted 09/30/07 5:05pm

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kash said:

How about 'When The Going Gets Tough', a bit cheesy maybe. neutral

Maybe! wink
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Reply #15 posted 09/30/07 5:17pm

Najee

DarkSideOfBeauty said:

What is wrong with some of his pop stuff? At least his was better than Whitney's pop songs. lol


Let's see Billy Ocean's string of hits starting from the mid-1980s:

* the "Billie Jean"-inspired "Caribbean Queen (No More Love on the Run);"

* "Loverboy" (which was a much bigger pop hit than on the soul charts);

* "Suddenly," which was the prototypical pop ballad;

* "Mystery Lady," this and "Love Zone" are the only songs from I like from him (and not surprisingly, both did better on the soul charts than on the pop charts);

* "When the Going Gets Tough (the Tough Get Going)," which was as crossover-oriented as one could ever get;

* "There'll Be Sad Songs (to Make You Cry)," another typical crossover ballad;

* "Love Zone," my favorite song from him by a country mile;

* "Love Is Forever," which was derivative of "Suddenly;"

* "Get outta My Dreams, Get into My Car," which ties Lionel Richie's "Dancing on the Ceiling" as arguably the most obnoxious song I've ever heard;

* "Color of Love," which could have been called "There'll Be Sad Songs, Pt. II."

IMO, the reason why Ocean's career flamed out is because not only had he become blatantly pop but his music had become formulated ("Caribbean Queen" --> "When the Going Gets Tough" --> "Get outta My Dreams;" "Suddenly --> "There'll Be Sad Songs" --> "Love Is Forever" --> "Color of Love"). Another reason I liked "Love Zone" and "Mystery Lady" is because they didn't sound like his other stuff.

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Reply #16 posted 09/30/07 5:19pm

Calligraphy

DarkSideOfBeauty said:

Timmy84 said:



LOL! Well he did have the better voice for those. I actually dug "The Color of Love" and "Love is Forever". However, "Suddenly" was ew, lol. I guess that's a double standard, lol. I actually enjoyed his shit over Whitney's.

I agree! "Suddenly" was the only song from him that I don't like too much. nod


My mom used to love that song. lol
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Reply #17 posted 09/30/07 5:24pm

DarkSideOfBeau
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Calligraphy said:

DarkSideOfBeauty said:


I agree! "Suddenly" was the only song from him that I don't like too much. nod


My mom used to love that song. lol

Hi There! smile My mom did too! confused
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Reply #18 posted 09/30/07 5:35pm

DarkSideOfBeau
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Najee said:

DarkSideOfBeauty said:

What is wrong with some of his pop stuff? At least his was better than Whitney's pop songs. lol


Let's see Billy Ocean's string of hits starting from the mid-1980s:

* the "Billie Jean"-inspired "Caribbean Queen (No More Love on the Run);"

* "Loverboy" (which was a much bigger pop hit than on the soul charts);

* "Suddenly," which was the prototypical pop ballad;

* "Mystery Lady," this and "Love Zone" are the only songs from I like from him (and not surprisingly, both did better on the soul charts than on the pop charts);

* "When the Going Gets Tough (the Tough Get Going)," which was as crossover-oriented as one could ever get;

* "There'll Be Sad Songs (to Make You Cry)," another typical crossover ballad;

* "Love Zone," my favorite song from him by a country mile;

* "Love Is Forever," which was derivative of "Suddenly;"

* "Get outta My Dreams, Get into My Car," which ties Lionel Richie's "Dancing on the Ceiling" as arguably the most obnoxious song I've ever heard;

* "Color of Love," which could have been called "There'll Be Sad Songs, Pt. II."

IMO, the reason why Ocean's career flamed out is because not only had he become blatantly pop but his music had become formulated ("Caribbean Queen" --> "When the Going Gets Tough" --> "Get outta My Dreams;" "Suddenly --> "There'll Be Sad Songs" --> "Love Is Forever" --> "Color of Love"). Another reason I liked "Love Zone" and "Mystery Lady" is because they didn't sound like his other stuff.

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I'm sorry that you don't like his music. I happened to like his pop songs as well. neutral
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Reply #19 posted 09/30/07 5:38pm

Najee

DarkSideOfBeauty said:

I'm sorry that you don't like his music. I happened to like his pop songs as well. neutral


"Like his pop songs as well?" The vast majority of Billy Ocean's catalog during his heyday was crossover pop (and VERY BLATANT crossover pop), save for "Mystery Lady" and "Love Zone." He was basically a male Whitney Houston or an overseas-based version of Lionel Richie.
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THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS!
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Reply #20 posted 09/30/07 5:46pm

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Najee said:

DarkSideOfBeauty said:

I'm sorry that you don't like his music. I happened to like his pop songs as well. neutral


"Like his pop songs as well?" The vast majority of Billy Ocean's catalog during his heyday was crossover pop (and VERY BLATANT crossover pop), save for "Mystery Lady" and "Love Zone." He was basically a male Whitney Houston or an overseas-based version of Lionel Richie.
[Edited 9/30/07 17:41pm]

Let me ask you a question. Do you like any 80's pop music?
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Reply #21 posted 09/30/07 6:05pm

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billy is cool
ur my baby 4ever and always nothing will ever come between the love we have built i love u baby
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Reply #22 posted 09/30/07 6:09pm

Najee

DarkSideOfBeauty said:

Let me ask you a question. Do you like any 80's pop music?


It depends on the artist. I don't hate songs that cross over solely on the principle of it crossing over, but my primary music of choice is soul music. If it's a song that has elements of pop and soul or if it's a song that happens to cross over, there are plenty of songs I like that fall into that category. However, I detest songs that are deliberately created for the intention of being watered-down.

I actually liked (or at least tolerated) some of Billy Ocean's initial stuff during his celebrated run. Even though it was a riff of "Billie Jean," I have no problem with "Caribbean Queen." "Loverboy" wasn't bad. I already mentioned I loved "Love Zone" and dug "Mystery Lady," both of which did cross over on the pop charts (just not quite as big as his other hits).

My problem with Ocean's music started when he was blatantly copying the formula, which to me is sellout. He essentially made "Suddenly" several times and slapped different names on them; the same with "Caribbean Queen." That's not counting the post-"Suddenly" album tracks I heard I found to be lame.

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THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS!
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Reply #23 posted 09/30/07 6:33pm

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Najee said:

DarkSideOfBeauty said:

Let me ask you a question. Do you like any 80's pop music?


It depends on the artist. I don't hate songs that cross over solely on the principal of it crossing over, but my primary music of choice is soul music. If it's a song that had elements of pop and soul or if it's a song that happens to cross over, there are plenty of songs I like that fall into that category. However, I detest songs that are deliberately created for the intention of being watered-down.

I actually liked (or at least tolerated) some of Billy Ocean's initial stuff during his celebrated run. Even though it was a riff of "Billie Jean," I have no problem with "Caribbean Queen." "Loverboy" wasn't bad. I already mentioned I loved "Love Zone" and dug "Mystery Lady," both of which did cross over on the pop charts (just not quite as big as his other hits).

My problem with Ocean's music started when he was blatantly copying the formula, which to me is sellout. He essentially made "Suddenly" several times and slapped different names on them; the same with "Caribbean Queen." That's not counting the post-"Suddenly" album tracks I heard I found to be lame.

[Edited 9/30/07 18:17pm]

I like soul music too. I like Al Green , Johnnie Taylor , Aretha Franklin , Wilson Pickett , Dorothy Moore , Sam Cooke , Otis Redding , just to name a few.
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Reply #24 posted 09/30/07 8:44pm

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He's coming in concert at one of the local casinos and I nearly fell out of my chair when I saw the photo of what he looks like these days! He's grown his gray hair out into long dreadlocks and is sporting a white beard. I wonder if he's making reggae music these days...

Google his official site to see pics. I tried to copy and post them here, but his site won't let me. Now it makes me wanna track down Eddie Grant ("Electric Avenue") and see what he's doing...
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Reply #25 posted 09/30/07 8:50pm

Abdul

I actually liked Billy's 'When The Going Gets Tough", they used to play it to death during the WWF Wrestling broadcasts on Saturday Afternoons back in the 80's.
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Reply #26 posted 09/30/07 9:03pm

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Najee said:



* "Get outta My Dreams, Get into My Car," which ties Lionel Richie's "Dancing on the Ceiling" as arguably the most obnoxious song I've ever heard;




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Reply #27 posted 09/30/07 9:12pm

DarkSideOfBeau
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purpleunderground said:

He's coming in concert at one of the local casinos and I nearly fell out of my chair when I saw the photo of what he looks like these days! He's grown his gray hair out into long dreadlocks and is sporting a white beard. I wonder if he's making reggae music these days...

Google his official site to see pics. I tried to copy and post them here, but his site won't let me. Now it makes me wanna track down Eddie Grant ("Electric Avenue") and see what he's doing...

"Electric Avenue"! Haven't heard that song in a long time. smile
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Reply #28 posted 09/30/07 9:23pm

Najee

sosgemini said:

Najee said:



* "Get outta My Dreams, Get into My Car," which ties Lionel Richie's "Dancing on the Ceiling" as arguably the most obnoxious song I've ever heard;






I'm sure there is a purpose for this picture. Please enlighten me.
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Reply #29 posted 09/30/07 9:25pm

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Najee said:

sosgemini said:





I'm sure there is a purpose for this picture. Please enlighten me.


those two songs played back to back could scare michael myers away.
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