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Reply #90 posted 09/29/07 1:03pm

Timmy84

Rodya24 said:

PatrickS77 said:


I know you didn't wish that... my response was directed at all of you!


What is wrong with wishing Michael Jackson had become a janitor? That occupation provides the highest level of happiness, according to a number of polls. Being a dentist, on the other hand. The highest possibility of suicide. biggrin

Again: lighten the fuck up.


Oh I don't know... I just look at him and think he could've been an artist or a poet if he wasn't into music. However, when you're surrounded by the TV and good music, some part of you is gonna wish to be on the TV and on the radio. lol

Michael probably thanks James Brown for making him want a career! HEEEEY! lol
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Reply #91 posted 09/29/07 1:04pm

Timmy84

Rodya24 said:

Timmy84 said:



It does give off the impression that dude's MAD! lol

Like, damn, dude, chill. lol I actually think he's yelling at us. lol


I know. I do not think he or she realizes that ending every sentence with an exclamation point denotes anger.


It's like a Rush Hour scene:
"DO U UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT MY MOUTH?!"

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Reply #92 posted 09/29/07 1:05pm

PatrickS77

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First of all, must you end every one of your sentences with an exclamation point.

Second of all, lighten up.

Finally stop defending him so much. Michael Jackson is not perfect. Sure I defend him sometimes, but not about every aspect of his life as you seem to.

Again: LIGHTEN UP.

Like you pointed out, I do use exclamation points and I won't change that for you!

I'm not defending anyone... just clearing things up and telling you to mind your own business or at least get more informed!

You are the one who's disecting every little aspect of his life based on half information!

Michael's not perfect?? Did I ever claim that he is?? You're not perfect too, I'm not perfect... nobody is perfect!
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Reply #93 posted 09/29/07 1:06pm

Timmy84

PatrickS77 said:

Rodya24 said:



First of all, must you end every one of your sentences with an exclamation point.

Second of all, lighten up.

Finally stop defending him so much. Michael Jackson is not perfect. Sure I defend him sometimes, but not about every aspect of his life as you seem to.

Again: LIGHTEN UP.

Like you pointed out, I do use exclamation points and I won't change that for you!

I'm not defending anyone... just clearing things up and telling you to mind your own business or at least get more informed!

You are the one who's disecting every little aspect of his life based on half information!

Michael's not perfect?? Did I ever claim that he is?? You're not perfect too, I'm not perfect... nobody is perfect!


spit You are pissed! lol

It's alright, we still love ya. wink
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Reply #94 posted 09/29/07 1:06pm

Rodya24

Timmy84 said:

PatrickS77 said:



God, your posts are getting more and more annoying or should I say disturbing?! You clearly do not know enough to come up with all these speculations and judgements! And then again you should stop worrying about Michael Jackson!

Debbie Rowe wasn't an employee of Michael! She worked at his dermatologists office as a nurse and got to know him in the early 80ies and over the years they eventually became friends! Nothing disturbing there! After the break up with Lisa Marie she offered to carry out his children! Unusual but still nothing disturbing there! Then they got married... most likely to hide the fact how he got the children and for legal reasons! Again, unusual, but not really disturbing!

Grace worked for Michael since at least 1992! Obviously they also have gotten close over the years and eventually she became appointed as "Nanny"... whether she really was only the "Nanny" or acted as Nanny because she got involved with Michael remains to be seen! But still not really disturbing!

For her dating Jermaine... we don't really know when that was or if it is true at all... maybe from there on she got the job with Michael, maybe she got to know Jermaine because of working for Michael... who knows and who cares really? It's none of your or mine business!

And for her having a life without the Jacksons! Well, are you capable of having a life without having your present job?? I'm sure you could adjust if you would happen to loose your job!!
[Edited 9/29/07 12:55pm]


You know something, even if she ain't Michael's kids' biological mother, Grace is their momma. Michael trust her that much to let Grace look out for his kids and like you said, they've known each other for years so anything's possible.


Then he should be more open about the marriage, instead of denying it. I don't care if this is a PR tactic. I do not see other celebrities with the exception of Janet Jackson being so secretive about being married. One would think from reading their publicists' statements that getting married is a rare thing to do, and not a practice a number of human beings engage in.

Perhaps he will reveal about his never-ending love for this Grace person in Vogue. confuse
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Reply #95 posted 09/29/07 1:08pm

Timmy84

Rodya24 said:

Timmy84 said:



You know something, even if she ain't Michael's kids' biological mother, Grace is their momma. Michael trust her that much to let Grace look out for his kids and like you said, they've known each other for years so anything's possible.


Then he should be more open about the marriage, instead of denying it. I don't care if this is a PR tactic. I do not see other celebrities with the exception of Janet Jackson being so secretive about being married. One would think from reading their publicists' statements that getting married is a rare thing to do, and not a practice a number of human beings engage in.

Perhaps he will reveal about his never-ending love for this Grace person in Vogue. confuse


He'll likely avoid personal questions about his life. I know one damn thing, something in the interview better talk about his music... or else... lol well not really anything but give us SOMETHING. lol

And no I don't wanna hear "you'll hear it when you hear it", that's two years old. spit
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Reply #96 posted 09/29/07 1:09pm

Rodya24

PatrickS77 said:

Rodya24 said:



First of all, must you end every one of your sentences with an exclamation point.

Second of all, lighten up.

Finally stop defending him so much. Michael Jackson is not perfect. Sure I defend him sometimes, but not about every aspect of his life as you seem to.

Again: LIGHTEN UP.

Like you pointed out, I do use exclamation points and I won't change that for you!

I'm not defending anyone... just clearing things up and telling you to mind your own business or at least get more informed!

You are the one who's disecting every little aspect of his life based on half information!

Michael's not perfect?? Did I ever claim that he is?? You're not perfect too, I'm not perfect... nobody is perfect!


And yes you know Michael Jackson personally. nod

And did I dissect "every little aspect of his life"? Funny, no where in this thread did I discuss his toiletry, hair styles, makeup, his eating habits, what he listens to, what his favorite TV shows are.

Again: lighten up.
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Reply #97 posted 09/29/07 1:10pm

Rodya24

Timmy84 said:

Rodya24 said:



Then he should be more open about the marriage, instead of denying it. I don't care if this is a PR tactic. I do not see other celebrities with the exception of Janet Jackson being so secretive about being married. One would think from reading their publicists' statements that getting married is a rare thing to do, and not a practice a number of human beings engage in.

Perhaps he will reveal about his never-ending love for this Grace person in Vogue. confuse


He'll likely avoid personal questions about his life. I know one damn thing, something in the interview better talk about his music... or else... lol well not really anything but give us SOMETHING. lol

And no I don't wanna hear "you'll hear it when you hear it", that's two years old. spit


Here, here!

As "fascinating" as these discussion on the Grace person are, I want to hear new music!
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Reply #98 posted 09/29/07 1:11pm

Timmy84

Rodya24 said:

PatrickS77 said:


Like you pointed out, I do use exclamation points and I won't change that for you!

I'm not defending anyone... just clearing things up and telling you to mind your own business or at least get more informed!

You are the one who's disecting every little aspect of his life based on half information!

Michael's not perfect?? Did I ever claim that he is?? You're not perfect too, I'm not perfect... nobody is perfect!


And yes you know Michael Jackson personally. nod

And did I dissect "every little aspect of his life"? Funny, no where in this thread did I discuss his toiletry, hair styles, makeup, his eating habits, what he listens to, what his favorite TV shows are.

Again: lighten up.


eek Michael Jackson shits and uses toilet paper, what a revelation. Tell Roger Friedman, he's gonna have a field day with this! eek

You know the sadder thing than US talking about it is that that's all we hear about NOWADAYS. He needs to direct the music as the only way he'll talk.

lol
[Edited 9/29/07 13:14pm]
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Reply #99 posted 09/29/07 1:13pm

PatrickS77

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Then he should be more open about the marriage, instead of denying it. I don't care if this is a PR tactic. I do not see other celebrities with the exception of Janet Jackson being so secretive about being married. One would think from reading their publicists' statements that getting married is a rare thing to do, and not a practice a number of human beings engage in.

Perhaps he will reveal about his never-ending love for this Grace person in Vogue. confuse

Why should he?? Because you say so?? So you can have some piece of mind??

So that every fuck in the world can claim it's a publicity stunt and we have people again who ask them on national tv if they fuck each other?? So that Grace gets hounded by the media?? Been there, done that?

In his position I too would keep my mouth shut about any marriage and only tell closest family and friends! The world doesn't need to know whether Michael Jackson is married or not!
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Reply #100 posted 09/29/07 1:13pm

Timmy84

Rodya24 said:

Timmy84 said:



He'll likely avoid personal questions about his life. I know one damn thing, something in the interview better talk about his music... or else... lol well not really anything but give us SOMETHING. lol

And no I don't wanna hear "you'll hear it when you hear it", that's two years old. spit


Here, here!

As "fascinating" as these discussion on the Grace person are, I want to hear new music!


And hopefully the music comes to fruition. I wanna hear what he's gonna do if he's not going to a major label, which I wouldn't blame him. Labels make you puppets. He can use that company of his and sign a deal with something like Starbucks and release his material and promote it both stores-wise and online. I don't want him to be like a broken record.
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Reply #101 posted 09/29/07 1:15pm

Rodya24

PatrickS77 said:

Rodya24 said:


Then he should be more open about the marriage, instead of denying it. I don't care if this is a PR tactic. I do not see other celebrities with the exception of Janet Jackson being so secretive about being married. One would think from reading their publicists' statements that getting married is a rare thing to do, and not a practice a number of human beings engage in.

Perhaps he will reveal about his never-ending love for this Grace person in Vogue. confuse

Why should he?? Because you say so?? So you can have some piece of mind??

So that every fuck in the world can claim it's a publicity stunt and we have people again who ask them on national tv if they fuck each other?? So that Grace gets hounded by the media?? Been there, done that?

In his position I too would keep my mouth shut about any marriage and only tell closest family and friends! The world doesn't need to know whether Michael Jackson is married or not!



I admire your persistence in your defense of Michael Jackson. It is touching. nod He needs people like you.
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Reply #102 posted 09/29/07 1:16pm

Rodya24

Timmy84 said:

Rodya24 said:



And yes you know Michael Jackson personally. nod

And did I dissect "every little aspect of his life"? Funny, no where in this thread did I discuss his toiletry, hair styles, makeup, his eating habits, what he listens to, what his favorite TV shows are.

Again: lighten up.


eek Michael Jackson shits and uses toilet paper, what a revelation. Tell Roger Friedman, he's gonna have a field day with this! eek

You know the sadder thing than US talking about it is that that's all we hear about NOWADAYS. He needs to direct the music as the only way he'll talk.

lol
[Edited 9/29/07 13:14pm]



Here, here!

Hell, both of us are fans of his music, and here we are discussing his nanny/wife.
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Reply #103 posted 09/29/07 1:16pm

Timmy84

Rodya24 said:

PatrickS77 said:


Why should he?? Because you say so?? So you can have some piece of mind??

So that every fuck in the world can claim it's a publicity stunt and we have people again who ask them on national tv if they fuck each other?? So that Grace gets hounded by the media?? Been there, done that?

In his position I too would keep my mouth shut about any marriage and only tell closest family and friends! The world doesn't need to know whether Michael Jackson is married or not!



I admire your persistence in your defense of Michael Jackson. It is touching. nod He needs people like you.


You're really making him mad. lol
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Reply #104 posted 09/29/07 1:17pm

Timmy84

Rodya24 said:

Timmy84 said:



eek Michael Jackson shits and uses toilet paper, what a revelation. Tell Roger Friedman, he's gonna have a field day with this! eek

You know the sadder thing than US talking about it is that that's all we hear about NOWADAYS. He needs to direct the music as the only way he'll talk.

lol
[Edited 9/29/07 13:14pm]



Here, here!

Hell, both of us are fans of his music, and here we are discussing his nanny/wife.


nod

Hence the topic: "Michael got married?!" LOL! falloff

Hopefully the next headline reads:

NEW JACKO (OR JACKSON) ALBUM TO BE OUT IN SPRING OF '08

...or some shit like that...

Reveal something on Vogue besides the pictures, Mike... wink
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Reply #105 posted 09/29/07 1:20pm

Rodya24

Timmy84 said:

Rodya24 said:




Here, here!

Hell, both of us are fans of his music, and here we are discussing his nanny/wife.


nod

Hence the topic: "Michael got married?!" LOL! falloff

Hopefully the next headline reads:

NEW JACKO (OR JACKSON) ALBUM TO BE OUT IN SPRING OF '08

...or some shit like that...

Reveal something on Vogue besides the pictures, Mike... wink



nod

To be honest I am starting to feel more hope for this new album. Rumors of a new "marriage," an appearance in Vogue... The signs are pointing to new music.

God, I hope so.
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Reply #106 posted 09/29/07 1:21pm

PatrickS77

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dag said:


The fact that he gets involved with his "hired help" does not surprise me because believe it or not, it ain´t easy for him to get to know women. AND I am sure he is always looking for someone he can trust. And if this lady has worked for him for several years now and he knows he can trust her than I am not surprised. And if she dated Jermaine...who cares? I don´t. We basically know nothing about her and if they truly are together I hope they are happy and very much in love.

Very well said! Totally agreed!

Timmy84 said:


spit You are pissed! lol

It's alright, we still love ya. wink

The only thing I'm pissed about is some kids claiming to know it all and their condescending downtalk of Michael Jackson based on half information!

Rodya24 said:


And yes you know Michael Jackson personally. nod

Well, I never claimed that, now did I? Although I have talked to some of the people involved! But that's not the point! I don't know it all and don't pretend to do so and I keep my speculations to myself!
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Reply #107 posted 09/29/07 1:22pm

Timmy84

Rodya24 said:

Timmy84 said:



nod

Hence the topic: "Michael got married?!" LOL! falloff

Hopefully the next headline reads:

NEW JACKO (OR JACKSON) ALBUM TO BE OUT IN SPRING OF '08

...or some shit like that...

Reveal something on Vogue besides the pictures, Mike... wink



nod

To be honest I am starting to feel more hope for this new album. Rumors of a new "marriage," an appearance in Vogue... The signs are pointing to new music.

God, I hope so.


Sho nuff. woot!
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Reply #108 posted 09/29/07 1:23pm

Rodya24

PatrickS77 said:

dag said:


The fact that he gets involved with his "hired help" does not surprise me because believe it or not, it ain´t easy for him to get to know women. AND I am sure he is always looking for someone he can trust. And if this lady has worked for him for several years now and he knows he can trust her than I am not surprised. And if she dated Jermaine...who cares? I don´t. We basically know nothing about her and if they truly are together I hope they are happy and very much in love.

Very well said! Totally agreed!


The only thing I'm pissed about is some kids claiming to know it all and their condescending downtalk of Michael Jackson based on half information!

Rodya24 said:


And yes you know Michael Jackson personally. nod

Well, I never claimed that, now did I? Although I have talked to some of the people involved! But that's not the point! I don't know it all and don't pretend to do so and I keep my speculations to myself!



The pot is calling the kettle black. nod

Again I admire your persistence in defense of Michael Jackson. He needs fans like you.
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Reply #109 posted 09/29/07 1:23pm

Timmy84

PatrickS77 said:

dag said:


The fact that he gets involved with his "hired help" does not surprise me because believe it or not, it ain´t easy for him to get to know women. AND I am sure he is always looking for someone he can trust. And if this lady has worked for him for several years now and he knows he can trust her than I am not surprised. And if she dated Jermaine...who cares? I don´t. We basically know nothing about her and if they truly are together I hope they are happy and very much in love.

Very well said! Totally agreed!


The only thing I'm pissed about is some kids claiming to know it all and their condescending downtalk of Michael Jackson based on half information!

Rodya24 said:


And yes you know Michael Jackson personally. nod

Well, I never claimed that, now did I? Although I have talked to some of the people involved! But that's not the point! I don't know it all and don't pretend to do so and I keep my speculations to myself!


Eh, it's alright. Just blow that out the water. lol
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Reply #110 posted 09/29/07 1:25pm

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Rodya24 said:

I admire your persistence in your defense of Michael Jackson. It is touching. nod He needs people like you.

Oh whatever! Grow up, child!
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Reply #111 posted 09/29/07 1:26pm

Timmy84

OOH!

I know...

We can talk about what kind of album Mike can make...

I've always want him to do a full-fledged FUNK album.

He has never done that at all in his career.

I mean, if he wanna really pay tribute to his fallen idol, JB, he can do the horns, get into the music and just KICKED BOOTY! I know he's built his career on pop songs and ballads but a FUNK album by Mike can prove he's more than "the King of Pop". fro
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Reply #112 posted 09/29/07 1:26pm

Rodya24

PatrickS77 said:

Rodya24 said:

I admire your persistence in your defense of Michael Jackson. It is touching. nod He needs people like you.

Oh whatever! Grow up, child!


Again he needs people like you. nod
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Reply #113 posted 09/29/07 1:27pm

Rodya24

Timmy84 said:

OOH!

I know...

We can talk about what kind of album Mike can make...

I've always want him to do a full-fledged FUNK album.

He has never done that at all in his career.

I mean, if he wanna really pay tribute to his fallen idol, JB, he can do the horns, get into the music and just KICKED BOOTY! I know he's built his career on pop songs and ballads but a FUNK album by Mike can prove he's more than "the King of Pop". :afro:


That would be awesome. I always thought he had a genius sense of rhythm. And his work with his brothers and Off The Wall prove he is more than capable of a funk album.
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Reply #114 posted 09/29/07 1:30pm

Timmy84

Rodya24 said:

Timmy84 said:

OOH!

I know...

We can talk about what kind of album Mike can make...

I've always want him to do a full-fledged FUNK album.

He has never done that at all in his career.

I mean, if he wanna really pay tribute to his fallen idol, JB, he can do the horns, get into the music and just KICKED BOOTY! I know he's built his career on pop songs and ballads but a FUNK album by Mike can prove he's more than "the King of Pop". :afro:


That would be awesome. I always thought he had a genius sense of rhythm. And his work with his works and Off The Wall prove he is more than capable of a funk album.


I bet that will really shock the world because Mike's career's been so complex. A soulful/rock & roll voice under a pop-dance sound. It worked for a while but I think he needs to change some spots musically. He can still have great success with newer material as long as he don't call on R. Kelly to give him more dreck, tell Rodney to quit it with the vocoders and the machine bull (well I think he actually thought it was hot), and would probably do some funk under will.i.am's production if it is as good as people say it is.
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Reply #115 posted 09/29/07 1:55pm

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Timmy84 said:

Rodya24 said:




Here, here!

Hell, both of us are fans of his music, and here we are discussing his nanny/wife.


nod

Hence the topic: "Michael got married?!" LOL! falloff

Hopefully the next headline reads:

NEW JACKO (OR JACKSON) ALBUM TO BE OUT IN SPRING OF '08

...or some shit like that...

Reveal something on Vogue besides the pictures, Mike... wink



I would yell out "IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME!!!" lol
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #116 posted 09/29/07 2:10pm

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:



nod

Hence the topic: "Michael got married?!" LOL! falloff

Hopefully the next headline reads:

NEW JACKO (OR JACKSON) ALBUM TO BE OUT IN SPRING OF '08

...or some shit like that...

Reveal something on Vogue besides the pictures, Mike... wink



I would yell out "IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME!!!" lol


Me too, brother, me too. lol
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Reply #117 posted 09/29/07 4:13pm

Thriller81

Timmy84 said:

Rodya24 said:




Here, here!

Hell, both of us are fans of his music, and here we are discussing his nanny/wife.


nod

Hence the topic: "Michael got married?!" LOL! falloff

Hopefully the next headline reads:

NEW JACKO (OR JACKSON) ALBUM TO BE OUT IN SPRING OF '08

...or some shit like that...

Reveal something on Vogue besides the pictures, Mike... wink



What the hell is a "Jacko"? What is that? I've heard people call him that before, but what the hell does that mean?
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Reply #118 posted 09/29/07 4:18pm

Timmy84

Thriller81 said:

Timmy84 said:



nod

Hence the topic: "Michael got married?!" LOL! falloff

Hopefully the next headline reads:

NEW JACKO (OR JACKSON) ALBUM TO BE OUT IN SPRING OF '08

...or some shit like that...

Reveal something on Vogue besides the pictures, Mike... wink



What the hell is a "Jacko"? What is that? I've heard people call him that before, but what the hell does that mean?


To be perfectly honest, I have no friggin' idea. lol Maybe it was just to match it with Wacko. It came from the UK too... there's one thing very funny about that, they call Madonna Madge, Paul McCartney Macca and Michael Jacko... very odd shit to me.
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Reply #119 posted 09/29/07 4:53pm

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dag said:

DarlingDiana said:

A lot of journalists often browse MJ forums. I was speaking to one who assures me that Bain's denial is no different to the denial Michael's people issued about his and Lisa Marie's marraige and his marriage to Debbie Hoe. No idea who the journalist is or who he/she works for but they are certain that MJ is married to Grace.

I also learnt some disturbing details about MJ's PR team. Alot of people how work for him don't really give a shit about him, they just think it looks good on their CV to have worked for Michael Jackson. So they have no moral objection to telling the press details about MJ's private life. That's how the press know about the marriage, his finacial problems and his drug use.

It's Bain's job to deny all this. Somehow she has managed to get MJ's fans under her thumb so that anything she says they believe. How many times have you heard an MJ fan say "I wont believe it until Bain denies/confirms it" or "well that's settled now that Bain's denied/confirmed it". Like what she's saying is gospel truth. It hasn't occured to most fans that it's part of her job as PR manager to paint a good picture of MJ.

It's a classic PR technique to deny any marriage or romantic/sexual relationship of a celebrity. That way they appear single and desirable. And of course, what PR manager in their right mind would confirm their clients drug and money problems? Bain's not stupid.

MJ's married folks. Has been for a while now.

From whom did you learn those disturbing details about his PR team?

I have to admit that I have always found the relationship between Mike and Grace
suspicous. She´s supposed to be his nanny, yet she seems to look more after Mike than his kids. As I said I´d love him to get married again. He deserves to be happy and I think he needs a woman in his life.




You don't know the beginning of it.

I won't even get into it now, I'll give you the run through later.
White Americans, what? Nothing better to do? Why don't you kick yourself out? You're an immigrant too. -White Stripes
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