LOL at New Edition being gay ... Johnny Gill maybe but as a group., nah.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Ooh chile... you must have heard about he and Eddie... LOL! There goes another Whitney connection.

I swear that trick is like the Yoko Ono of New Edition.

Wendy Williams: "Were you involved in the break-up of New Edition (1996-97 reunion)?"
Whitney: (irritatingly) "I didn't even know him then!"
Wendy: "No I meant when they were on the reunion tour."
Whitney: (sighing relief) "No they had their own relationship."

That trick probably had something to do with it though.

The rest of New Edition: "Don't marry Whitney, you'll regret it."
Bobby: "Fuck y'all, you don't know about love."

15 years later:

The rest of New Edition: "Now didn't we tell your dumb ass..."
Bobby: "Yeah I know, I know, I fucked up."

Timmy84 said:

Ralph Tresvant didn't even show up to homie's wedding, u know ralph was hitting whitney on the side too

shit NE was getting pussy back then from Janet, Monie Love, Stacy Lattisaw, all the decent girl groups in rnb back in there time, they were smashin all of them

qvgangsta18 said:

Shit, I wouldn't be surprised. I read in Janet's unauthorized bio (online) that Janet and Bobby fooled around when Janet was briefly separated from Rene.

bboy87 said:

Really? Which Jermaine album? The one that had "Dynamite" and "Do What You Do" on it?

Timmy84 said:

bobby is a fool if he was banging out janet(ass and decent titties) and went with stick figure like whitney, then he deserved to lose his career

She looks like The Bride of Frankenstein. All she needs is that white streak in the front of her hair.

Timmy84 said:

bobby is a fool if he was banging out janet(ass and decent titties) and went with stick figure like whitney, then he deserved to lose his career

Naw i think Bobby brown success was way more surprising, talk about a man who could have had a crazy success story, from getting kicked out of the group to upstaging and then co headlining the same tour with them, to even going on to bigger success in 89, too bad he married Whitney and got caught up in drugs, and he was just a back up singer

If I'm not mistaken, each portion of New Edition score a number one hit on the R&B charts away from each other:
Bobby had like five or six, I'm not too certain.
Ralph had one
Johnny had two
BBD had two

They were all successful with their solo/side projects. Not even the Jackson 5 could own up to that shit!

But J5 comes pretty close:
The Jackson 5/Jacksons- 26 Top Pop, 30 Top 40 R&B
Jackie- 1 Top 40 R&B
Jermaine- 7 Top 40 Pop, 21 Top 40 R&B
Marlon- 1 Top 40 R&B
Michael- 40 Top 40 Pop, 41 Top 40 R&B

True, but you do notice Tito and Randy never had a solo Top 40 R&B hit?

Timmy84 said:

Actually, Randy Jackson did have a top 20 hit with his band Randy and The Gypsys, "Love You Honey" (peaked at No. 16 on the Billboard R&B Singles chart, 1990).
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Najee said:

Wow, I didn't know that, thanks.

And yeah, my point exactly on the Jackson brothers.

Timmy84 said:

The only other popular music group I can think of where every member (minimum three members) had a platinum album as a solo performer is The Beatles. That tells you that what New Edition did was very unique.
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Yeah, pretty much. New Edition in essence were the black Beatles in those respects even though neither played instruments.

Timmy84 said:

Exactly. In addition to being immensely popular, New Edition were front-runners in a lot of respects in popular/soul music. It was their success that started the resurge in teen-age acts from the mid-1980s through today. Acts like Boyz II Men, New Kids On The Block, N'Sync, Five Star, Hi-Five and many current acts are direct derivations of the N.E. formula. Even acts like SWV were inspired by New Edition.

As a solo act, Bobby Brown may have been the first soul act in the modern time to cross over to white audiences without "whitening his style." There likely would not have been large mainstream success for acts like Usher if it wasn't for B. Brown.

Bell Biv DeVoe was arguably the first true soul act to merge successfully hip-hop beats and productions into a soul music environment. You mentioned TLC as being a direct descendant/female answer to BBD, but I feel some of the rap acts' ability to find white fans with more accessible styles owe some of their success to the "Poison!" album.

New Edition doesn't quite get the respect it deserves for having such an impact on soul and pop music for the past quarter-century.
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Wasn't 1990 a great year? I think "Poison" was the biggest-selling album by an R&B group that year (I forgot how much En Vogue's "Born to Sing" sold, lol). I think it did like five million worldwide.

And yeah, BBD's success was unexpected. It was actually perfect since Michael, Ricky and Ronnie never stood out of the crowd the way Ralph, Bobby and Johnny did so for them to form a splinter group was perfect.

And though they don't get the credit they get, BBD were the precursor to TLC. It's like Mike was Left-Eye (the rapper), Ronnie was T-Boz (while not much of a singer, he did sing and rap) and Ricky was Chilli (obviously the "sanger" in the group). They were the original group with the mixture of hip-hop, R&B and pop or whatever their slogan was at the time.

TLC took that concept and ran with it.

If I'm not mistaken, each portion of New Edition score a number one hit on the R&B charts away from each other:
Bobby had like five or six, I'm not too certain.
Ralph had one
Johnny had two
BBD had two

They were all successful with their solo/side projects. Not even the Jackson 5 could own up to that shit!

I'm glad to see New Edition gettin' some love. They are definitely in my Top 5 favorite artists list. I saw them live (sans Bobby) and they definitely put on slammin' show. I hope they do get back together (with Bobby) like the rumors are saying.


Big ups to Vainandy who also appreciates "My Secret" cause that is my JAM!!!!! Nobody mentioned "Delicious" or "Maryann" from that album. Come on, ya'll know that those are the joints right there.

While I love Heartbreak (Especailly N.E. Heartbreak, Competition and "You're not my kind of Girl) I really think that New Edition is a better album. The songs on that one are a lot more cohesive and there's less filler on there, too. (With the exception of Baby Love). It's really bubblegum pop, but for this genre I think it's extremely well produced and singing is definitely on point.

My favorites are:

Candy Girl (12 Inch)
Popcorn Love
My Secret
Cool It Now
Is This The End
Jealous Girl
Lost In Love
Mr. Telephone Man

I hated their third album though. It may have been a Jam and Lewis production but all the songs were too mellow. Bobby Brown's solo stuff like "My Prerogative" was much harder and more my speed.

Actually, the "Candy Girl" album is available on CD. I bought it a few months ago.

I've been looking all over for their second album with no luck. I have three 45s from that album but I don't have "My Secret" which I want but I don't want to buy their greatest hits CD. I saw their second album on CD a few years ago but I guess they have made it out of print now.

I've noticed more and more albums going out of print as more greatest hits compilations are made. I can't find one damn Ohio Players album on CD in the record stores these days.

Timmy84 said:

man what you talkin bout, tboz had more leads than chilli. and neither was ever on ricky's level

Lovesexy82 said:

And I've NEVER heard anybody say New Edition was gay. Where did THAT come from?

Lovesexy82 said:

Out of nowhere. I never heard that either...

If you checked their "Behind the Music" documentary, they were far from gay!

Timmy84 said:

Got it from my coworker Jimmy. He says a rumor went out that Johnny and Ralph were seen as a couple. I told him I didn't believe it. But I mentioned it anyway, just in case.

LOL at New Edition being gay ... Johnny Gill maybe but as a group., nah.