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PrintableMan I like his style!! Watch it pure genius!!It doesn´t get any better than this!!
http://www.youtube.com/wa...BTxazbdULo Bireli Lagrene: Stella by Starlight http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= [Edited 9/25/07 12:51pm] | |
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My favorite living guitar players are probably
Steve Vai Robben Ford Jeff Beck B.B. King My Legacy
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I got to see the amazing Bert Jansch in England last year & was moved to tears.
Never heard him? Well, if you've listened to any of the pretty acoustic stuff by Led Zeppelin, you have an idea. He is to their mellow side what Willie Dixon was to their bluesy side. | |
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Carlos Santana
Slash 
Purrnce 
B B King 
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Volitan said: 
Jeff Beck has done it all, and innovated A LOT of stuff guitarists still use today. If he stuck with a singer, he would be recoginzed as one of the best ever, and the band probably would've out sold Led Zeppelin. Good point. Even to me, a Beck respecter  , the lack of continuity of a vocalist, or even, like Santana, a certain type of vocalist, identifiable with that guitarist, can be a bit of a stumbling block to more casual fans, or people interested in his wider work. Had he never famously worked with a singer, like some of the others mentioned on this thread, this would have been less of a 'problem'.
It may seem a superficial point to super-guitar lovers, but the lack of a long-standing, recognizable 'Beck singer' makes his catalogue slightly 'bitty' imo. Beck, I think, likes to be 'unclassifiable', but then there is a danger of being 'neither fish nor foul' (to bring a TTD album title into the discussion  ).
By rights, Beck should be at least as big-selling as Jimmy Page/ Zeppelin etc (I'm sure he's at least as respected as Page by the cognescenti, if not more so). I doubt Beck cares tho. He's not poor, I'm sure. He just likes doin' his own thang. 
I have no single favourate/ best breathing guitarist, partly as I generally like guitar to be part of a wider soundscape (unless, like Hendrix, it is the wider soundscape too ), than just guitar for its own sake. Most of my favourates are now just ghosts in the feedback , so I probably need to seek out a few more who are still with us.
I think I shall have to check out Bireli Lagrene. I like Gypsy/ Eastern European music etc, which it seems Lagrene may relate to. And also Allan Holdsworth, who I've heard good things about on here in the past. [Edited 9/25/07 14:05pm] | |
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I think Steve Vai's more of a comprehensive musician, but Eddie Van Halen is one of the most influential living guitarists, as is Clapton (though Clapton's never been my fave) My Legacy
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So, no one thinks Mark Knopfler is much of a mention? | |
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Miles said: Volitan said:
Jeff Beck has done it all, and innovated A LOT of stuff guitarists still use today. If he stuck with a singer, he would be recoginzed as one of the best ever, and the band probably would've out sold Led Zeppelin. Good point. Even to me, a Beck respecter , the lack of continuity of a vocalist, or even, like Santana, a certain type of vocalist, identifiable with that guitarist, can be a bit of a stumbling block to more casual fans, or people interested in his wider work. Had he never famously worked with a singer, like some of the others mentioned on this thread, this would have been less of a 'problem'.
It may seem a superficial point to super-guitar lovers, but the lack of a long-standing, recognizable 'Beck singer' makes his catalogue slightly 'bitty' imo. Beck, I think, likes to be 'unclassifiable', but then there is a danger of being 'neither fish nor foul' (to bring a TTD album title into the discussion ).
By rights, Beck should be at least as big-selling as Jimmy Page/ Zeppelin etc (I'm sure he's at least as respected as Page by the cognescenti, if not more so). I doubt Beck cares tho. He's not poor, I'm sure. He just likes doin' his own thang.
Gosh I love your analyses. This is such an interesting question. I think many artists deal with this and...it's basically the story of my life. Consistency and a clear definable, identifiable path goes a long ways in terms of an artist's career. I like Gypsy/ Eastern European music etc, which it seems Lagrene may relate to.
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What else needs to be said that hasn't? 
Yet another reason I love the Org, people with taste AND knowledge. Drink it in... | |
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heartbeatocean said: So, no one thinks Mark Knopfler is much of a mention?
actually a very good player. He probably doesn't get mentioned because his playing serves the song more than it serves his reputation as a player. He's not really a showoff. But his Sultans of Swing style & sound has been much copied  My Legacy
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Stanley Jordan. He's so good I just fucking hate him! But he's incredible
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Miles said: Volitan said:
Jeff Beck has done it all, and innovated A LOT of stuff guitarists still use today. If he stuck with a singer, he would be recoginzed as one of the best ever, and the band probably would've out sold Led Zeppelin. Good point. Even to me, a Beck respecter , the lack of continuity of a vocalist, or even, like Santana, a certain type of vocalist, identifiable with that guitarist, can be a bit of a stumbling block to more casual fans, or people interested in his wider work. Had he never famously worked with a singer, like some of the others mentioned on this thread, this would have been less of a 'problem'.
It may seem a superficial point to super-guitar lovers, but the lack of a long-standing, recognizable 'Beck singer' makes his catalogue slightly 'bitty' imo. Beck, I think, likes to be 'unclassifiable', but then there is a danger of being 'neither fish nor foul' (to bring a TTD album title into the discussion ).
By rights, Beck should be at least as big-selling as Jimmy Page/ Zeppelin etc (I'm sure he's at least as respected as Page by the cognescenti, if not more so). I doubt Beck cares tho. He's not poor, I'm sure. He just likes doin' his own thang.
I have no single favourate/ best breathing guitarist, partly as I generally like guitar to be part of a wider soundscape (unless, like Hendrix, it is the wider soundscape too ), than just guitar for its own sake. Most of my favourates are now just ghosts in the feedback , so I probably need to seek out a few more who are still with us.
I think I shall have to check out Bireli Lagrene. I like Gypsy/ Eastern European music etc, which it seems Lagrene may relate to. And also Allan Holdsworth, who I've heard good things about on here in the past. [Edited 9/25/07 14:05pm] Co-Sign. | |
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monk76 said: For me it is Bireli Lagrene.
Nowhere in the USA can one go to witness such great and timeless musicianship. If only!  I saw Bireli live..but this guy beats him if you ask me. Check this clip of him coming outta jail.Look at him getting a guitar and jammin on the spot.(clip1) He's also far family of Django Rheinhard and had a deal with Sony and had dinner with Stevie Wonder..but he is on the heavey dope now. Hope he makes it.Sweetest soul ever..there's a beautiful documentary made of hime too.It starts out in a heroine rehab clinic where he says:I'm very sensitive..people can hurt me with ease.. I love him alot as a honest person,guitarist ,singer and soul.Beautiful! Also check clip2..he is 12 years old in it. Enjoy.. Clip1: http://youtube.com/watch?v=sX6JYdbDgfg Clip2: http://youtube.com/watch?v=2xQValyNv3Q | |
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Prince and Santana! "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ 
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emile57 said: monk76 said: For me it is Bireli Lagrene.
Nowhere in the USA can one go to witness such great and timeless musicianship. If only! I saw Bireli live..but this guy beats him if you ask me. Check this clip of him coming outta jail.Look at him getting a guitar and jammin on the spot.(clip1) He's also far family of Django Rheinhard and had a deal with Sony and had dinner with Stevie Wonder..but he is on the heavey dope now. Hope he makes it.Sweetest soul ever..there's a beautiful documentary made of hime too.It starts out in a heroine rehab clinic where he says:I'm very sensitive..people can hurt me with ease.. I love him alot as a honest person,guitarist ,singer and soul.Beautiful! Also check clip2..he is 12 years old in it. Enjoy.. Clip1: http://youtube.com/watch?v=sX6JYdbDgfg Clip2: http://youtube.com/watch?v=2xQValyNv3Q This is amazing...I hope this guy stays clean... Looks like it http://youtube.com/watch?...ed&search= [Edited 9/25/07 20:18pm] | |
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Miles said: Volitan said:
Jeff Beck has done it all, and innovated A LOT of stuff guitarists still use today. If he stuck with a singer, he would be recoginzed as one of the best ever, and the band probably would've out sold Led Zeppelin. Good point. Even to me, a Beck respecter , the lack of continuity of a vocalist, or even, like Santana, a certain type of vocalist, identifiable with that guitarist, can be a bit of a stumbling block to more casual fans, or people interested in his wider work. Had he never famously worked with a singer, like some of the others mentioned on this thread, this would have been less of a 'problem'.
It may seem a superficial point to super-guitar lovers, but the lack of a long-standing, recognizable 'Beck singer' makes his catalogue slightly 'bitty' imo. Beck, I think, likes to be 'unclassifiable', but then there is a danger of being 'neither fish nor foul' (to bring a TTD album title into the discussion ).
By rights, Beck should be at least as big-selling as Jimmy Page/ Zeppelin etc (I'm sure he's at least as respected as Page by the cognescenti, if not more so). I doubt Beck cares tho. He's not poor, I'm sure. He just likes doin' his own thang.
I have no single favourate/ best breathing guitarist, partly as I generally like guitar to be part of a wider soundscape (unless, like Hendrix, it is the wider soundscape too ), than just guitar for its own sake. Most of my favourates are now just ghosts in the feedback , so I probably need to seek out a few more who are still with us.
I think I shall have to check out Bireli Lagrene. I like Gypsy/ Eastern European music etc, which it seems Lagrene may relate to. And also Allan Holdsworth, who I've heard good things about on here in the past. [Edited 9/25/07 14:05pm] The TTD album is called 'Neither Fish Nor Flesh'  It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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emile57 said: monk76 said: For me it is Bireli Lagrene.
Nowhere in the USA can one go to witness such great and timeless musicianship. If only! I saw Bireli live..but this guy beats him if you ask me. Check this clip of him coming outta jail.Look at him getting a guitar and jammin on the spot.(clip1) He's also far family of Django Rheinhard and had a deal with Sony and had dinner with Stevie Wonder..but he is on the heavey dope now. Hope he makes it.Sweetest soul ever..there's a beautiful documentary made of hime too.It starts out in a heroine rehab clinic where he says:I'm very sensitive..people can hurt me with ease.. I love him alot as a honest person,guitarist ,singer and soul.Beautiful! Also check clip2..he is 12 years old in it. Enjoy.. Clip1: http://youtube.com/watch?v=sX6JYdbDgfg Clip2: http://youtube.com/watch?v=2xQValyNv3Q I´m a big fan of Jimmy too. You´re right he is absolutley amazing!!I have all his records. He and Lagrene play definitely in the same league. 
Jimmy Rosenberg comes from a Sinti (gypsy) family in Asten, in the southern region of The Netherlands.Still very young, Jimmy Rosenberg is obviously one the most promising talents in gypsy jazz today, and chooses to live a traditional gypsy life – in a caravan, without an address. Org don´t get mad at me but I don´t think Prince is in this league.Jimmy and Bireli play in another universe.Prince is a very good player but he doesen´t have the technique( for example to slow with his fingers) to become a master player. But this isn´t important.Prince hasn´t got the time to focus on only one instrument(guitar) to become a master. Had he more time maybe he would! He has to focus on his writing, producing, singing,girls etc etc. Thanks for all your responses. I can agree with B B King and Santana. I like them both. But I think players like Slash,Van Halen,john mayer,Knopfler,Eubanks are overrated and not so great!! [Edited 9/26/07 5:10am] | |
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 Great pics you posted Monk!!Here's the whole documentary streaming but in Dutch...but enough music in there too.
I wish it was with english subs cause the things he says is heartbreaking. http://player.omroep.nl/?...65099d51aa | |
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Wow..I just saw he has a concert in the netherlands in october.
It's sold out and I emailed them if I could work at their food and beverage department during the concert without pay..LOL Shit..I'm so mad a missed that ticket sale. He's gonna be in Paris soon too. Maybe I can get a ticket for that show.  | |
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emile57 said: Wow..I just saw he has a concert in the netherlands in october.
It's sold out and I emailed them if I could work at their food and beverage department during the concert without pay..LOL Shit..I'm so mad a missed that ticket sale. He's gonna be in Paris soon too. Maybe I can get a ticket for that show. Oh man I just saw it too. The best part is I only live 2 driving hours away. Damn it! But I won´t give up.Í must get a ticket!! | |
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emile57 said: Great pics you posted Monk!!Here's the whole documentary streaming but in Dutch...but enough music in there too.
I wish it was with english subs cause the things he says is heartbreaking. http://player.omroep.nl/?...65099d51aa Thanks !!! Great link!! Here is another clip of a very young jimmy http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= Do you know how many DVDs of Jimmy are available? Even if it´s a docu about other players and you only see him play for a few minutes I must have it! [Edited 9/26/07 8:07am] | |
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wow..awsome clip.Thanks!!
I have no idea where to go to get a ticket.I emailed the club..no response yet. I'm trying to make a reservation in Paris aswell..kinda cool..they'll screen the film and he'll play afterwards. If you get a ticket or know a place please orgnote me. I'll pay hard cash to see him..LOL It's so stupid of me..I always kept an eye on his site for concerts and just missed this one cause I didn't check in a month. About DVD's..I dunno..you'll have to email his management or look at his site. Maybe Sony has footage too. He has toured all over the world..I really don't know if their are more dvd's. Youtbe so far has some short clips. Hope you get a ticket..Maybe more tourdates will come. | |
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I live a half hour from where that gig will be.
I'll go at the date and ask people in line to sell me a ticket if I can't find any other way..LOL | |
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Ritchie Blackmore ofcourse 
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The last few bands I saw live all had great guitarists.
Leo Nocentelli (of The Meters, but his was his own band) Eric Krasno (of Soulive) Ben Harper & the Innocent Criminals (Ben is great on acoustic, electric and his specialty a lap steel Weissenborn, plus his band has a 2nd guitarist, Michael Ward, who's no slouch) Vernon Reid (with the electtonica-funk band Yohimbe Brothers) test | |
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