Say the Jackson 5 never started and Michael wasn't The King Of Pop where would he be?

Still Black and working at Chili's.

Let's look at this in all seriousness.


-The Osmonds would still be singing poppy show tunes
-The Five Stairsteps might have actually crossed over and had more success
-The Sylvers may have never had a career
-Motown might not have moved to Detroit permanently in 1972
-MTV might have never played blacks or probably would have went out of business in the late 1980's
-New Edition might not have existed
-El DeBarge might have been the start of the 80's
-Chris Brown would be a rapper
-MTV video award would be named after Madonna not MJ

fluid said:

could have been some sort of artist / designer as he is a good drawer

He would have gotten to live his childhood while he was an actual child instead of living it while he's a grown ass man. He also would have grown up, would have stopped caring about what his father thinks, would have accepted his sexual preference, and would be sleeping with grown men rather than young boys.

I think MTV would have lived on into the 1990s if they had never played black videos. They just would have played all rock videos. Actually, black music might have stayed "black" if it didn't have that crossover audience that wanted it watered down and whitened up.

Still black being a jehovah witness going door to door. Playing with the neighborhood kids. And actual reality, if there was no Michael there would be a void in music. The music video probably be laim and boring with nothing artistic about it. Prince main rival would've been Stevie Wonder or Lionel Richie. New Edition would be the same but with a different name. Man, can't imagine.

vainandy said:

you'd probably be first in line too lol

If he still looked like he did during the "Thriller" era, I sure would. After that album, his appearance got worse and worse every time you saw him.

vainandy said:

disagree.

I believe everything has a plan and reason. I believe Michael was supposed to be the biggest entertainer ever. If watching the documentary about Sam Cooke, James Brown, and Sammy Davis, Michael's place in history was already set

proclaiming himself the king of pop was a total turn off and when things started to go downhill

Still looking brown, warm, attractive with a killer smile, with his so called big nose and all he would have been delicious still, provided he stayed off the drugs and drink. He probably would have been an artist still, not necessarily a singer/dancer, but like a designer because he is naturally quite artistic.

As for his sexuality I personally believe he would be straight, simply because he probably wouldn't have had the same experiences that has obvioulsy shaped his sexuality today, whatever that is.
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Here we are getting from music to his sexuality again. But if he wasn´t the King, I don´t know who else would fill that place in my heart.

dag said:

probably milli vanilli

theres nothing wrong with being gay and what kind of "experiences" can make u gay if u were straight? he was born gay cuz being gay is not a choice.

electrorock said:

Definately not

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how can you be so sure what he was born?

with his amount of tallent he could be almost everything , he might as well be a great actor cause he loves films. maybe he would be swing ball with T woods or what ever

dag said:

so u think u can be born hetero and turn gay??

in the 90s MJ and milli vanilli were pretty much the same so i thought u would like them

electrorock said:

A number of scholars would disagree with your assessment that one is born with his or her sexuality.

electrorock said:

His fans started calling him the King of Pop in the '80s. The history behind the title "King Of Pop" is quite interesting, and demonstrates how a downfall in popularity or a series of scandals can lead to a misleading interpretation of the past.

Rodya24 said:

i was refering to whatgoingon user. everyone has "experiences" that shape ur sexuality??? dont get it.

Rodya24 said:

bullshit. it was all made by MJ or MJ people. there was a long "the king of pop" video that had other artists saying the stupid thing "MJ is the king of pop", pretty absurd.

i dont wanna go into the scandal shit. nothing to do with this silly insecure "move" of the so-called KING

electrorock said:

We can agree to disagree. But if ever you feel that there might be a hole in your belief, check out newspaper articles from the '80s.

electrorock said:

Sexuality, I believe, is fluid.

If he's gay, he would have been born gay and no kind of experiences could change him from being gay. However, the different experiences in his life can affect his decision to either accept his homosexuality or to hide it. Also, if he had gotten the chance to be an actual child back when he was a child, he would have moved on from the "child mode" and graduated to adulthood. His taste in the same sex would have matured also during this process.

Although when I was a little boy, I didn't want another little boy, I wanted a grown man because grown men had pubic hair which is what I love. What can I say? I wasn't the average little gay boy.

vainandy said:

In a gender studies class, we had an interesting discussion on sexuality (the politics of it and whether or not one is born with a certain sexuality). A number of people believe that human beings are bisexual, and that sexuality is fluid. This is an issue I have been struggling with, since a number of people I know believe they are born "straight" or "gay," and others believe that experiences shape the choices that they make in their sexual life. It could be a combination of both.

As for Michael Jackson, the court transcripts reveal that he is not a pedophile nor is interested in preteen male children. I suggest you take a look at them. It reveals a damaged man, but not a child molester.

As for his sexuality, I have no idea (I used to think he was bisexual -- still do sometimes). Some think he is homosexual or heterosexual; others, bisexual or asexual. Who knows?

And if Michael Jackson never was in The Jackson 5, I like to think that he would have become a painter or an academic.
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vainandy said:

I truely believe some people can be confused about their sexuality and do believe things like that are down to child-hood experiences. As it stands now Michael seems so ambigious about everything.

whatever it is he has serious issues with his sexuality and weird behaviour. theres trillions of people around the world that had no childhood and now as adults they are not playing or hanging out with little boys. thats the most stupid excuse ive ever heard

electrorock said:

There are millions of non famous people with dark secrets that we dont know about but these people are not MJ who is 1 in a trillion.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Does anyone know who won the first Video Vanguard Award in 1987?