Pimp c had made a statement calling Russell Simmons and Ne-Yo gay

In XXL's October issue:

XXL

You’ve conducted some interviews recently that expressed some pretty
offensive opinions, but you only apologized for your “Atlanta ain’t the South” statement. Any other apologies you wanna make?


Pimp C

Let me say this: That statement about Russell Simmons had nothing to do with his sexual orientation. It had more to do with a disagreement [we had]. I don’t know if the man likes Martians, squirrels or whatever, so I ain’t gonna speak on something that I didn’t see. It’s no gay-bashing with me. It’s just, be proud of what you are, instead of hidin’ in the closet. And if ya f*ck boys in the ass, then don’t be tryna f*ck with the girls, too, poisoning the pussy population wit’ ya sh*tty ol’ dirty-ass dick.



I know he's wrong but that last statement is some funny ass shit !!

since we're in a gossipy mood right now...


I heard that the "Superhead" video vixen chick has another book coming out this fall.In the new book,she continues talking about all the folks she slept with.She claims that she slept with Russell and describes him as...."small"


she also talks about having sex with Da Brat and Missy Elliot.


Am I crazy for wanting to read her book??

SoulAlive said:

I heard that the new list is bogus... Someone over at Mediatakeout made that up according to Superhead... But i enjoyed the first book
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I tell ya, those damn shit hoppers are some of the most ignorant motherfuckers on the face of the earth. All these stupid statements are made simply to get attention. Of course, they've got plenty of time to make stupid statements since it doesn't take very long to make their so-called music. They've got too much time on their hands.

vainandy said:

See, this is what kills me. Motherfuckers being "wolves in sheep's clothing" making statements like they are fine with someone being gay but they just want them not to hide it and they want them to be proud of it.

If I were famous, I wouldn't change any of my style or gestures but I wouldn't come right out and tell people I was gay either. Why? Because I see what they do to gay people on TV. They exploit them and make jokes out of them.

If I was famous, I would do the "Prince approach" to it. I would just be myself, keep all my natural gestures, and dress as I please. However, I wouldn't tell a damn thing about my personal life and simply let people "wonder".



This statement totally clashes with his first statement. If he truly didn't have a problem with gay people, he wouldn't be making ignorant statements like this one.

First of all, not all gay people fuck or get fucked up the ass. I ain't never had nothing in my ass but toilet paper and the thought of going up inside a nasty asshole just turns me off. I like dick, not ass. I'm not a woman, I'm a man, so I so no need in getting fucked either. Besides, I don't believe in experiencing pain so someone else can get some pleasure.

Second, as far as the "poisoning the pussy population" goes, what makes you think we want our dick population poisoned with someone who is going out and getting pussy. I've told a many a motherfucker that has come over smelling all fishy because he fucked a woman an hour or two earlier...."Look bastard, next time you come to see me, wash the pussy off your dick before you come over. Don't you wash your dick before you come home to your wife? Well, dammit, I expect the same respect. Now, put your clothes on and get the fuck out".
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vainandy said:

I just knew you was going to break this shit down

I guess monogamy isn't high on this guy's list.

There have been rumors about Russell for years so.....

Well this will always happen in a male dominated arena like Rap Music and many other areas. Though rappers may play the role of being "ladies men" for alot of them things are much different. I have talked to many girls who have worked on Rap videos and they tell a much different story from what you would think, its all image and things are different behind closed doors.

I wish I had the chance to hear Pimp on that radio interview where he got off on Ne-Yo wearing lip gloss although it's pretty obvious he's a queen...

the only thing i remember about UGK and Pimp C, was when i was still working in Music Retail and i would assist the company buyer, and we would have this weekly conference call and talk about upcoming releases in RB,Rap etc.. and she would ask how many copies does your store need, and these stores in the south would ask for 300-500 of UGK and i would think WTF? no one here even asks for this stuff, so i would get 5 copies for us, about a month later those 5 would always get sent back in the monthly recall and we were the number one selling store in the company majoring in Reggae,Rap,Gospel and RB.
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VainAndy...I'm new to this site and I totally agree with you on the misperceptions of gay men and women, (but), just because you don't engage in actual intercourse, doesn't give you the right to degrade or belittle those who do.

Now Pimp C was wrong for making the statements that he did in XXL, but at the same time, you stooped to his level by saying the things you said about gay men.

I'm a gay male and I don't think sexual intercourse is dirty or painful with other men.
I am sexually active, not oral only. I don't knock anyone who doesn't engage in sexual activity, to each his/her own and that doesn't have anything to do with me, but at the same time I wouldn't make statements as such in a public forum like this.

More power to you,if your only "oral". Thats fine and dandy, but for me I enjoy my partner sexually (As a whole) and having anal sex, doesn't have to be dirty or nasty. The preconcieved notion that when the male's part enters the anus, that your ultimately gonna get a "butterfinger" is absolutely untrue. I have never been crapped on and neither have I ever crapped on anyone in the 15 years that I have been sexually active with men.

A man can indeed keep himself clean in those areas, also being a man doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't have anal sex (referring to your statement that "I'm not a woman, I'm a man, so I so no need in getting fucked either"), thats why we have tops, bottoms, versatile and those who are strickly oral, so you have a choice, and I'm not mad at your choice or the fact that you have no desire for it or have tried it and didn't like it (whichever it may be).
There's nothing wrong with it, anal sex can be enjoyable and men have what they call a prostate gland in that area (if stroked properly) can be pleasurable and its known throughout the medical world.

This is considered the male's g-spot.
Now I'm not promoting anal sex or gay sex (if you will), but I'm speaking on behalf those who enjoy it, and yes I do know that not ALL GAY MEN DO IT, but those of us who do and loves it (your comment was offensive).

There are tons of women who enjoy it aswell. Speaking of women, I'm sure some women if not all would be offended hearing their private parts smell like fish.

Heck, I love the male part too, but I just don't gett off on putting my mouth on it. I love the entire aspect of sex with my partner.

So I'm not here to knock you down, I just want you to know that just like you were offended by Pimp C's words. Someone else was offended by your words. Which to both statements, Pimp C and yours Vainandy (aren't always true).
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banks said:

so,there won't be a second book? It's just a rumor? I was actually looking forward to it,lol.

I'm not degrading or belittling anyone gay. I'm simply saying what I will and will not do sexually. Straight people say what they will and will not do sexually all the time and they aren't always nice when they give their reasons why.

Gay people are no different than straight people. We come in all shapes, sizes, and colors. Also, some of us are nice when proving a point and some of us aren't.



I don't knock anyone who wants to engage in anal sex. I'm only letting people know that not all of us do and for straight people to not generalize all of us. Yes, a public forum like this is exactly the right place to make such statements since this forum is where it was brought up about an ignorant generalizing statement that was made by a damn shit hop rapper who probably fucks every dragon queen he can get his hands on.



I've never thought that at all. My main concern is pain and I be damn if I'm going to go through some pain so someone else can have some pleasure. I cum from my dick, not my asshole.

As for fucking someone, why would I want to? An asshole doesn't turn me on. A dick turns me on. And an asshole, no matter how much soap and water has been used, will always be something dirty and nasty to me. If I had a desire to stick something, I would stick a woman, not an ass.

Also, a lot of straight people think anal sex is our way of trying to be a woman (which they think we all secretly want to be). It's one of their ways to say that we are all crazy or perverted. Well, I have no desire to be a woman and never have. I believe in letting them know that gay people are different within themselves just straight people are.




I think you meant to say "ALL GAY MEN DON'T DO IT" but made a typo. If you didn't make a typo, then I'm here to tell you that I'm gay and I don't do it.




The rapper was offensive, well guess what, we can be offensive also. Offending gay people was the least of my intentions but if I did come across as offensive....oh well. My intent was to show straight people that gay people are not all alike and some of us are mean as hell also just like they are. If they are going to make offensive statements towards us, then they better be prepared for us to come back and fight their fire with more fire. I've tried the nice approach and trying to make them understand and what happens? They turn it around, exploit it, and make a joke out of it. I'm not going to cry, beg, and plead with straight people to understand what I do. They aren't supposed to understand just like I'm not supposed to understand why they are turned on by the opposite sex. They are however supposed to respect us and when they don't, I can dish the disrepect right back out to them and not think twice about it. Not only do I not fuck an ass but I'm not going to kiss one either.
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Well I completely understand your point and approach Vainandy.
But once again, thats your opinion about the anal sex part (lol), because Its never hurt for me and my partner loves it, he has no desire to be a woman, he loves the way it feels when I'm inside him. So, he's not putting himself through pain and I would never subject him to that if it was indeed uncomfortable for him. We both get something out of it and it is very enjoyable for both of us.

(Ok now i'm getting to graphic here) lol

Your question is why would ppl (generalized), put themselves through it. How come not say...Well I'm gay and I don't have an urge to do anal sex or a desire (never have and never will) and that you have clearly stated now.

It sounded as if you were straight and talking down on what gay ppl do and thats what I meant. Because at the end of the day like you said, were all very different, so just give us your own opinion or experiences, because what may be painful to you, sure in heaven can be the greatest feeling on earth to the next and of course the anus is a waste disposal area, but you can indeed have a clean stick (lol).

Don't talk about it, if you never been about it.

I've been versatile ever since i've been sexually active and i have never experienced any pain during sex with a man. When I started dating my first boyfriend I knew what I wanted and it was everything i thought it would be.

I'm not strickly one thing, because I enjoy it all. I wouldn't dare try and make you like or believe what I believe, but I'd want you to respect where I'm coming from as much as I respect you.

I just didn't think all of that was neccessary, because it came off like you were one of them. Which there are alot of self hating gays and lesbians, who speak ill of what gays do, but not all of us are that way.

Thanx for the breakdown and clarification
I'm done with this forum here...Toodles!
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SoulAlive said:

The book is being released but what banks was trying to say is that the list of people being discussed going around isn't real. Check Amazon if you're waiting for the book.

Honey, the only thing straight on me is my hair. Me talking about how I would never get fucked in the ass is no different than some straight men talking about how they would never eat pussy.

I don't know who this mf is & I don't see WHY he's getting interviewed - he's just FOUL

ABeautifulOne said:

thanks

banks said:

I *know* I shouldn't laugh, but damn....!

Saying stuff like that used to get guys killed!

Having said that...why do people even care who sleeps with whom? How many trees have died telling us that this person is sleeping with that person? Geezus, let's concentrate on the Work, not on the personal sex life!

A famous actor once said about his sexuality "My life is an open book, but don't expect me to read it to you."
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Alasseon said:

I felt the same way when i first read it... It just made me chuckle

OK WAIT! Russel..what about him being gay???? What happened?

paisleypark4 said:

Pimp c made some comments about how he thought Russell and Ne-Yo are gay
and XXL asked him to elaborate on his statements

paisleypark4 said:

There have been rumors about Russell's sexuality for years...

and Ne-Yo? Do you REALLY have to ask?