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PrintableMuthaFunka said:[quote] namepeace said: You know, one could make the case for Kelvin Mercer (Plug 2) over Dave (his verse on "Much More" might be the single greatest verse of the last 10 years), but this list is pretty airtight. My list didn't deviate much; I added LL because the case can be made that he's still the prototype by which most MC's are still built. Guru, Brother J and Tip, hard to argue them. Now, if MF Doom makes a few more neo-classics along the lines of Madvillainy and MM..Food, he could crack that list. [Edited 9/24/07 9:50am] K-Merc is in the top 15-20 easily. I saw your list and it was a nice one but you know I ain't feelin' Biggie bro  . And I'd put MF on the top 12.Indeed. Accurate assessment. [Edited 9/24/07 10:19am] | |
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CalhounSq said: InsatiableCream said:   4real, Kim is the hotness. I like MC Lyte, but I really didnt like rap until Lil Kim. She was the first rap artist that i ever had an interest in buying. And is that a problem 4 me NOT to be 30 years old? If you're under 30, you should never compile a top 10 MC list. Case closed
Excuse me but I wasnt born in the 70's. Yea I know and have songs by the likes of Roxanne Shante, Grandmaster Flash, Kool Moe Dee, I even got the Treacherous Three's first Lp, my cousin is MC Shan and was in a commercial with KRS One, but it's not my fault I don't really know alot about them growing up to have heard every album they did. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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LoDog said: Since I was a rap from the very beginning and witnessed its growth over the years, I have heard many MC's spit the mike. Some great. Some cool. Some alright. And some horrible. I want to lay down my favorite rappers of all time. Starting with Pac. No one is better than him. My whole list is:
1. 2Pac 2. Rakim 3. Ice Cube 4. Eminem 5. Biggie 6. Big Daddy Kane 7. Lil' Kim 8. Nas 9. Chuck D 10. Snoop Dogg Honarable mention to Run-DMC because they work better together and not alone. 1. rakim 2. krs-one 3. chuck d 4. brother J 5. eminem 6. ll cool j 7. kool moe dee 8. big daddy kane 9. lin que 10.ice cube man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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paisleypark4 said:[quote] CalhounSq said: 4real, Kim is the hotness. I like MC Lyte, but I really didnt like rap until Lil Kim. She was the first rap artist that i ever had an interest in buying. And is that a problem 4 me NOT to be 30 years old? If you're under 30, you should never compile a top 10 MC list. Case closed
Excuse me but I wasnt born in the 70's. Yea I know and have songs by the likes of Roxanne Shante, Grandmaster Flash, Kool Moe Dee, I even got the Treacherous Three's first Lp, my cousin is MC Shan and was in a commercial with KRS One, but it's not my fault I don't really know alot about them growing up to have heard every album they did. MC Shan is your cousin ??? For real ?
I used to listen to his Down By Law album a lot when it came out in 86...he was one of my favorite rappers...but I was too much of a BDP/KRS1 fan and I couldn´t really forgive him for claiming that HipHop started out in Queens. So is your family really part German, as Shan would sometimes say in interviews ? He used to say that General Moltke was one of his ancestors ( his real name is Shawn Moltke , right ?) General Moltke is not unknown to me, since I am of Turkish origin and General Moltke used to work for the Turkish army back in nineteenhundredsomething...he was a General of the Ottoman Empire´s army back when Germany and Türkiye were allies against Russia and England. Are you REALLY Shan´s cousin ? Talk about six degrees of seperation ..." I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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KoolEaze said: paisleypark4 said: Excuse me but I wasnt born in the 70's. Yea I know and have songs by the likes of Roxanne Shante, Grandmaster Flash, Kool Moe Dee, I even got the Treacherous Three's first Lp, my cousin is MC Shan and was in a commercial with KRS One, but it's not my fault I don't really know alot about them growing up to have heard every album they did. MC Shan is your cousin ??? For real ?
I used to listen to his Down By Law album a lot when it came out in 86...he was one of my favorite rappers...but I was too much of a BDP/KRS1 fan and I couldn´t really forgive him for claiming that HipHop started out in Queens. So is your family really part German, as Shan would sometimes say in interviews ? He used to say that General Moltke was one of his ancestors ( his real name is Shawn Moltke , right ?) General Moltke is not unknown to me, since I am of Turkish origin and General Moltke used to work for the Turkish army back in nineteenhundredsomething...he was a General of the Ottoman Empire´s army back when Germany and Türkiye were allies against Russia and England. Are you REALLY Shan´s cousin ? Talk about six degrees of seperation ...He is my father's nephew..so wouldnt that make me his cousin? I have a picture of him in the 70's at a Christmas Party I should put up. The first time I rememebr thinkin he was LL, cuz he had the Kangol hat. He came in our room and gave us a 12" of "Jane Stop This Crazy Thing" and a dollar each. I had to be no more than 5. And he said he wanted us to be good and stay in school n stuff Somebody stole that autographed record though...
The last time I spoke to him his daughter had died and he was trying to move out of NYC...he had stayed in Long Island I believe. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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MuthaFunka said: K-Merc is in the top 15-20 easily. I saw your list and it was a nice one but you know I ain't feelin' Biggie bro
. And I'd put MF on the top 12.Yeah, I'm out there on an island with Biggie. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: MuthaFunka said: K-Merc is in the top 15-20 easily. I saw your list and it was a nice one but you know I ain't feelin' Biggie bro
. And I'd put MF on the top 12.Yeah, I'm out there on an island with Biggie.  nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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paisleypark4 said: KoolEaze said: MC Shan is your cousin ??? For real ?
I used to listen to his Down By Law album a lot when it came out in 86...he was one of my favorite rappers...but I was too much of a BDP/KRS1 fan and I couldn´t really forgive him for claiming that HipHop started out in Queens. So is your family really part German, as Shan would sometimes say in interviews ? He used to say that General Moltke was one of his ancestors ( his real name is Shawn Moltke , right ?) General Moltke is not unknown to me, since I am of Turkish origin and General Moltke used to work for the Turkish army back in nineteenhundredsomething...he was a General of the Ottoman Empire´s army back when Germany and Türkiye were allies against Russia and England. Are you REALLY Shan´s cousin ? Talk about six degrees of seperation ...He is my father's nephew..so wouldnt that make me his cousin? I have a picture of him in the 70's at a Christmas Party I should put up. The first time I rememebr thinkin he was LL, cuz he had the Kangol hat. He came in our room and gave us a 12" of "Jane Stop This Crazy Thing" and a dollar each. I had to be no more than 5. And he said he wanted us to be good and stay in school n stuff Somebody stole that autographed record though...
The last time I spoke to him his daughter had died and he was trying to move out of NYC...he had stayed in Long Island I believe. Too bad that his daughter died so young...may she rest in peace..that is really, really sad.... 
Last time I heard of him was way back in the early 90s, when he produced Snow´s "Informer"....he must have gotten a lot of royalties for that hit ! I felt kinda happy for him to be so successful again, but the loss of his daughter is really tragic, he always came across as a genuinely nice and positive person and I stil have Down By Law on cassette. PS; many other people also got him mixed up with cool J because of the Kangol hat. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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MuthaFunka said: namepeace said: Yeah, I'm out there on an island with Biggie. But, you know, I could think of a few MCs that could supplant him. Guru Talib Kweli DMC Jeru The Damaja Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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KoolEaze said: paisleypark4 said: He is my father's nephew..so wouldnt that make me his cousin? I have a picture of him in the 70's at a Christmas Party I should put up. The first time I rememebr thinkin he was LL, cuz he had the Kangol hat. He came in our room and gave us a 12" of "Jane Stop This Crazy Thing" and a dollar each. I had to be no more than 5. And he said he wanted us to be good and stay in school n stuff Somebody stole that autographed record though...
The last time I spoke to him his daughter had died and he was trying to move out of NYC...he had stayed in Long Island I believe. Too bad that his daughter died so young...may she rest in peace..that is really, really sad....
Last time I heard of him was way back in the early 90s, when he produced Snow´s "Informer"....he must have gotten a lot of royalties for that hit ! I felt kinda happy for him to be so successful again, but the loss of his daughter is really tragic, he always came across as a genuinely nice and positive person and I stil have Down By Law on cassette. PS; many other people also got him mixed up with cool J because of the Kangol hat. Informer, yeah I didnt actually know that was him that produced that until my mom bought it and told me she only really liked it cuz he made it. I actually dont even own any of his songs other than "Jane!.." "Left Me Lonely" and "The Bridge". He would be highly upset with me if he knew that  When he called and asked if we saw him on the Sprite commercial in 95 I said, "No." He blew a fuse...little did I know I had been seeing that commercial over and over not knowing it was him. The Hat, look and claiming Queens was probably the most LL comparison.Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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paisleypark4 said: KoolEaze said: Too bad that his daughter died so young...may she rest in peace..that is really, really sad....
Last time I heard of him was way back in the early 90s, when he produced Snow´s "Informer"....he must have gotten a lot of royalties for that hit ! I felt kinda happy for him to be so successful again, but the loss of his daughter is really tragic, he always came across as a genuinely nice and positive person and I stil have Down By Law on cassette. PS; many other people also got him mixed up with cool J because of the Kangol hat. People like your cousin had a VERY positive influence on many young people´s lives over here....next time you see him , please tell him that and send him our "Thank yous", ok ? He is MC SHAN ! Man, you don´t realize Informer, yeah I didnt actually know that was him that produced that until my mom bought it and told me she only really liked it cuz he made it. I actually dont even own any of his songs other than "Jane!.." "Left Me Lonely" and "The Bridge". He would be highly upset with me if he knew that When he called and asked if we saw him on the Sprite commercial in 95 I said, "No." He blew a fuse...little did I know I had been seeing that commercial over and over not knowing it was him. The Hat, look and claiming Queens was probably the most LL comparison." I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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namepeace said: MuthaFunka said: But, you know, I could think of a few MCs that could supplant him. Guru Talib Kweli DMC Jeru The Damaja Damn, I forgot all about Jeru! nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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My favorites:
Chuck D Kool Keith LL Cool J KRS-1 B-Real Ice Cube Run & DMC Rakim Melle Mel Shock G Yeah that's right I ain't bought a new rap record except for KK since about 1993. But I prefer it that way. | |
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bobzilla77 said: My favorites:
Chuck D Kool Keith LL Cool J KRS-1 B-Real Ice Cube Run & DMC Rakim Melle Mel Shock G Yeah that's right I ain't bought a new rap record except for KK since about 1993. But I prefer it that way. I could say that you've unfortunately missed out on a lot. But I could also say that you were fortunate to have missed out on a lot more. So it's a wash. Clearly, though, you love your hip-hop. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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bobzilla77 said: My favorites:
Chuck D Kool Keith LL Cool J KRS-1 B-Real Ice Cube Run & DMC Rakim Melle Mel Shock G Yeah that's right I ain't bought a new rap record except for KK since about 1993. But I prefer it that way.  nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: namepeace said: But, you know, I could think of a few MCs that could supplant him. Guru Talib Kweli DMC Jeru The Damaja Damn, I forgot all about Jeru! Tru Dat!  | |
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MuthaFunka said: namepeace said: The all East Coast version . . . I can dig it. But Rakim No. 5? Really? Yeah, CL WAS kinda high, especially over The R, but his list in its entirety was tight. My reason for listing CL that high is mecca and the soul brother. He was the star MC of the east coast during the time west coast rap took over and mecca and the soul brother is probably my all time favorite hip hop album. A lot of these lists i respect. It was hard for me to leave ice cube off the list. I should have put him on honorable mention too. I think he was by far the best MC on the west coast and could definitely be in my top 10 anyday. Don't laugh at my funk
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phunkdaddy said: MuthaFunka said: Yeah, CL WAS kinda high, especially over The R, but his list in its entirety was tight. My reason for listing CL that high is mecca and the soul brother. He was the star MC of the east coast during the time west coast rap took over and mecca and the soul brother is probably my all time favorite hip hop album. A lot of these lists i respect. It was hard for me to leave ice cube off the list. I should have put him on honorable mention too. I think he was by far the best MC on the west coast and could definitely be in my top 10 anyday. I don't know if CL was the ONLY East coast MC holdin' it down during the West's reign, but I feel you to some extent. I'd have to throw in ATCQ holding it down in that same period. And the best MC on the west around that time - and probnab;y perios - WOULD have been The DOC but that "sold-his-soul-to-the-devil-and-the-devil-collected-that-night" car accident ended that real quick. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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Rakim
2pac KRS-ONE Chuck D Jay-Z Big Daddy Kane Ice Cube Mr. Scarface LL Cool J Andre 3000 My top 10 list is subject to change as the years go by. | |
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KRS-ONE - #1 all time!
The rest in no particular order: Run Rakim LL Cube Kane Ecstacy (for Five Minutes of Funk alone) Mos Black Thought - most underated MC EVER!!!!! Either member of De La Soul | |
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10.(tie) Tony M and Sean Paul
09.Beastie Boys 08.Partners in Kryme 07.Snow 06.Ya Kid K 05.Salt'N'Pepa 04.Vanilla Ice 03.Kriss Kross 02.Snoopy Dog 01.Will Smith (The Fresh Prince)  I'm afraid of Americans. I'm afraid of the world. | |
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spacedolphin said: 10.(tie) Tony M and Sean Paul
09.Beastie Boys 08.Partners in Kryme 07.Snow 06.Ya Kid K 05.Salt'N'Pepa 04.Vanilla Ice 03.Kriss Kross 02.Snoopy Dog 01.Will Smith (The Fresh Prince) Nailed it! We should lock the thread on that note. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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Mariah Carey Michael Caine Morris Chestnut Michael Chiklis Marcia Cross Macaulay Culkin Marcia Clark Melanie C Mary (Chapin) Carpenter "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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MuthaFunka said: spacedolphin said: 10.(tie) Tony M and Sean Paul
09.Beastie Boys 08.Partners in Kryme 07.Snow 06.Ya Kid K 05.Salt'N'Pepa 04.Vanilla Ice 03.Kriss Kross 02.Snoopy Dog 01.Will Smith (The Fresh Prince) Nailed it! We should lock the thread on that note. Negative. Any list without TC Ellis is illegitimate. Kid shoulda let him WRRAP. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: MuthaFunka said: Nailed it! We should lock the thread on that note. Negative. Any list without TC Ellis is illegitimate. Kid shoulda let him WRRAP.  nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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Melle Mel KRS-One Rakim Run & DMC Jalil & Ecstasy Ice Cube Big Daddy Kane L.L. Cool J Kool Moe Dee *UM* Busy Bee, Kurtis Blow all listed @ random "microphone check - a one two, a one two" [Edited 10/2/07 16:23pm]   National Funk League✮✮ | |
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MuthaFunka said: namepeace said: Negative. Any list without TC Ellis is illegitimate. Kid shoulda let him WRRAP. Co- sign | |
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paisleypark4 said: LoDog said: Since I was a rap from the very beginning and witnessed its growth over the years, I have heard many MC's spit the mike. Some great. Some cool. Some alright. And some horrible. I want to lay down my favorite rappers of all time. Starting with Pac. No one is better than him. My whole list is:
1. 2Pac 2. Rakim 3. Ice Cube 4. Eminem 5. Biggie 6. Big Daddy Kane 7. Lil' Kim 8. Nas 9. Chuck D 10. Snoop Dogg Honarable mention to Run-DMC because they work better together and not alone. Where is LL? Big Kane on top of LL...damn Jay-Z aint even on there.... ill say... 1. 2Pac 2. Big 3. Nas 4. Em 5. Jay Z 6. LL 7. Bone Thugs 8. Run DMC 9. NWA 10. Kurtis Blow [Edited 9/23/07 23:10pm] yah ll, krs, tribe, monie, pub nipsy | |
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MuthaFunka said: And the best MC on the west around that time - and probnab;y perios - WOULD have been The DOC but that "sold-his-soul-to-the-devil-and-the-devil-collected-that-night" car accident ended that real quick.
Can you explain? I know about the accident but what's all this selling to the devil bidniss about? I never knew details    I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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CalhounSq said: MuthaFunka said: And the best MC on the west around that time - and probnab;y perios - WOULD have been The DOC but that "sold-his-soul-to-the-devil-and-the-devil-collected-that-night" car accident ended that real quick.
Can you explain? I know about the accident but what's all this selling to the devil bidniss about? I never knew details DOC was on the verge of being the dopest rapper, regardless of style and coast. His single is blowing up and his star is rising, then he gets into a car accident and the ONLY thing that happens to him is his vocal chords get PERMANENTLY damaged and his career as a rapper is pretty much over. Now if that's not selling your soul for some quick success - to have the ONE THING that makes you popular and earn ya paper taken away from you in a freak accident - then I don't know what is. In fact, Snoop should thank the fuck outta the DOC everytime he sees him, because had DOC not gotten his chords jacked, there would have been no need for Dre to go out and find Snoop. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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