EmbattledWarrior said:

There were also black churches that were burned down that he paid to be rebuilt.
Michael didn't abandon the black community IMO. Our community turned their back on him. We'll support artists who haven't done anything but embarrass us yet when it sometimes comes to Michael, it's a different story.
We'll defend OJ and R.Kelly before we defend Mike, and that's a damn shame

Oh yea, the price in the states for the magazine is around $15. I'm probably not gonna buy it until I find it used or something
[Edited 9/28/07 15:53pm]

Mj still gets more love from the Black community than Prince! tell me I'm lyin!

lilgish said:

Man you are about to start a lot of shit with that comment.

lilgish said:

In the words of pro wrestler Kurt Angle, "It's true! It's true!"

bboy87 said:

Not even that. Santa Maria's Black population is like 0. It's something like a 5 hour drive from Los Angeles, the nearest city with a relative high percentage of Blacks. And even then there were bus loads of black people from LA( boarded buses at 4 am) who made it to the arraignment. I'm positive there would have been a better representaion had the trial been held in a city with black citizens. Cause what I can see, black people STILL love Mike. Like the Virgin signing - mostly black people there.

^^^^^

BIG UPS TO THE LAST FEW POSTS!!!

whatsgoingon said:

I got to find Katie and her cousin Neka to tell you some shit, cause what happened in Santa Barbara was crazy.

Don't Push Us Away
http://www.mjj2005.com/ko...=24413&hl=

Strange thing is, I agree with both sides of the argument. I'm weird like that Yes I know its a long thread to read (11 pages) but its worth the read. Anyway, the stories they told about their experience amazed me beyond belief. There were so many racists in the neighborhood, I was floored at what happened to them and all the black folks who came to support Michael; which as someone mentioned, were a few but NOT because blacks didn't support him. Also, I too, remember so many black celebrities supporting Michael everywhere from Rick James to Will Smith and LisaRaye.

Something about Michael, no matter what dumb shit he gets himself into, we black folks always have his back - regardless of those whom will not admit it. BET actually stopped running their regular 106&Park programming to cover the trial (during the announcing of the verdict) and had commentary with Doug E. Fresh, Jackie Reid and Free and A.J. (and of course the audience). I have it on tape too. When the verdict was announced NOT GUILTY over and over everybody was screaming, crying, yelling...you could just feel the love we all have for Michael just by watching it on television and in your heart. Yes I know this sounds corny but shit, its the truth.

Doug E. Fresh also said some stuff (post-verdict) that I've got to type out to post here because he explained everything how we were feeling down pat.
[Edited 9/28/07 21:08pm]

Speaking of black fans at the trial. I saw this one freak-as-hell picture of a little black kid who looked just like MJ at age 11. No joke. It was freaky. Exactly like him minus the afro. It was unbelievable. I'll try to find the picture. Has anyone else seen it? It was a picture of the MJ-looking kid and what I assume to be his brother and sister. The picture was posted on some MJ forums and there was a heap of discussion about how similiar the kid looked to 11-year-old-MJ. So other fans must've seen it at some point.

floetcist said:

I can I just say Neka gets on my damn nerves?

Always tryna start shit

LOL. Well I love her

You know what I hate? When people try and compare Michael's case to OJ's. THERE ARE NO SIMILARITIES. Two completely different cases, background, prosecutions and most especially, the JURY. But because they're both black and were found not guilty, somehow Michael must of been falsely aquitted like OJ theres some correlation. For one, OJ's jury was very much black, was it not? The jurors in the Michael Jackson case was all white, conservatives from Santa Barbara, Calif. I think that speaks volumes.

Oh yeah, and...

Don't you snap your fingers at me lady

Anyway, this is what Doug E. Fresh said:

"...to be very honest, I just got off a plane cause I was in Atlanta and we did...a lot of events now and then. When I got the plane and I got the call, I was saying to myself "They said the verdict was in" - the whole car just felt like stress. You know what I mean? Because for some strange reason, you know when you look at Michael Jackson you see yourself even though, you know, you can tell he's been through a lot, and goes through a lot. But you can see, thats your brother right there you know what I'm saying? So when you look at him or you think he's in a position he's about to do a large sentence...and you look at how you grew up with him, its - I don't care who you are - you are gonna feel some kind of emotional impact."

floetcist said:

He said some truth there. Now I just want Mike not to get into no dumb shit ever again. I really want him to prove people wrong, shit. Because if he don't, anybody who don't like him will go "oh we got him now".

floetcist said:

Katie is cool and all, but Neka ALWAYS tryin to threaten folks like some internet gangsta

But I did see those pictures on her myspace.....almost added her as a friend

I hate it too when people try to compare Mike's case with OJ's case.

FUCK OJ! He knew better than that shit!
[Edited 9/28/07 21:33pm]

bboy87 said:

Those who compare the case of Michael Jackson to that of OJ Simpson demonstrate the fact that most people in this world have little to no ability to analyze or think.

Ha-ha, I'm with you, bboy, FUCK OJ!

^ word. You know whats funny? Every time theres an MJ topic here it turns into a political debate. It strays so far off topic all the time. But I love it

Picture time..

Negro College Fund Awards
There used to be a video of this on YouTube, but of course its been removed for copyright infringement.








The Barry White Funeral
It still pisses me off how his passing didn't gain much coverage at all. All I remember was P.Diddy wearing a RIP t-shirt at the VMAs.





James Brown Funeral
I had no doubt in my mind Michael would be there. I love when after Michael is done with his speech and is about to go back to his seat, everyone in the audience was screaming his name because they thought he was leaving and Al said [in the mic] "Don't worry Michael ain't going no where".

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jGbpRIbz4Zo

DON’T MESS UP THE PERM





Raymone and her blonde weave..








I don't intend to be mean, but...I always wondered how Michael manages to sneeze

In that picture of MJ hugging Sharpton, it looks like he's saying "Wait, don't touch the fresh perm, homie!"

Here are more pictures from the 80s:

^^^^ Niiiiice!!! And I love the picture of him with that pink Mickey Mouse shirt with the girrrls. Pimpin'!


And I'm sorry, but I have to post this





I've got a million more pics to post...so I'm saving them for later. lol

we've gotten so off topic, this happens on every MJ thread.

floetcist said:

mimi07 said:

you don't like the pictures?

floetcist said:

I know that pic looks funny like the kid is saying "hey, get the hell off me man" but if you watch the video the kid is actually waving.

bboy87 said:

i was gonna say i liked the pics but we've gone from michael being on the cover of a new magazine to michael doesn't care about the black community which is why these pics are being posted
[Edited 9/28/07 23:19pm]

His family are black and he has black friends. This is not about him having a black family, who he obviously loves, or black friends or even a black wife for that matter... so posting loads of pics with Whitney, Quincey, his own family and at James Brown funeral to try and prove that he is close to black people is a bit of a mute point. I am talking about the way people and black people in particular perceive him now in comparison to 30 or even 25 years ago. Large portions of the black community think he is the biggest sell out there is, regardless of his charity work with the black community



I think the above quote is also very true. Many black people did see him grow up and they do have an emotional connection with him, but that doesn't stop them believeing he is a Sell-out. During the child abuse trial I knew people who grew up with him and his brothers music and inspite of all those good memories they believed he should be in jail, as much as it would have hurt them to see him convicted. So yes, there is an emotional pact there but that still doesn't stop people saying "WTF" about him.
[Edited 9/29/07 3:31am]

whatsgoingon said:

You have said this approximately 100,000,000 million times. We get it. Unlike you, we know how to read.

And the fact that you and others think he should be in jail demonstrates that you did not take the time to follow the trial or even bother to read the transcripts.

I thought your country was the land of "innocent before proven guilty."

whatsgoingon said:

'Large portions'? I disagree. You should use the word 'some'. You come off sounding like you've done this door to door poll of all black people, lol.
I remember when Michael came to Detroit in '98. He was involved in some business deal with this black millionaire business man about building a casino. He was met at the airport by THOUSANDS of black people. I remember my girlfriend saying it was like the '80s again. He stayed there for like 3 days and the people were going crazy for him. My boy Stevie Wonder happened to be there at the same time, but they were going crazy for MICHAEL.
Same thing when he met with the Black Caucus in DC couple of years ago. He was treated like royalty. They were lined up just to shake his hand!
At James' services, there were LARGE PORTIONS of black people cheering him on. And because we as a people are so opened and honest with our feelings, he would NOT get this type of response if he were so poorly thought of. So that 'large portions' ish ain't cuttin' it.
And MOST African American believe MJ is innocent. Polls revealed this. So who cares about those ignoramuses who believe otherwise. Bottomline is Most Black people still love, appreciate, and believe in Michael Jackson. And we will see this in full force when his new record drops

Gone racial and off topic