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Reply #90 posted 09/23/07 10:04pm

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Rodya24 said:




Like you said Jermaine, Jackie, and Randy are quite notorious for their womanizing and rumored abuse of their spouses and girlfriends. As for Marlon and Tito, I should not have included them in my rant against the Jackson brothers and sexism. In fact I like Marlon.

As for Michael, I am just going to write "Dangerous."

I was born sometime after you, so am also used to the way he looks. And I agree. This is the best he has looked since the HIStory era and in particular the awful period between 1999 and 2005.

1999 wasn't bad at all. The TV Guide photoshoot he did was cool. he was wearing barely any makeup and actually looked his best since '89.


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well shoot... he looks good/normal there too!
wth. neutral
he looks fly!
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Reply #91 posted 09/23/07 10:13pm

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I hate seeing pictures of MJ nowadays, they just make me feel really sad at what promblems he must of had with himself to make such huge differences to his appearence. sad Poor guy, I generally feel sorry for him.

He doesnt look anywhere near as good as the 70's and 80's but he has had some decent plastic surgery (for once) in the last year or so, he's looking far far far better than the god awful period of 1999 to 2005 (Invincible era was awful).

He still needs to lay off so much make-up and lipstick and show us his REAL hair, bring back the curls!

The two biggest mistakes Michael made with plastic surgery are getting that cleft in his chin and widening his eyes, apart from that I dont think he looks that bad at all at the moment.

Can anybody explain to me why he went REALLY crazy with the surgery during 1999-22001? Because in those 3 years I saw a huge change in the way he looked, bigger that previously.

MJ fans, you really need to ignore the haters and such like.

I hope Michael can come back and prove many people wrong, the music and entertainment business is crying out for Michael Jackson at the moment.


Im not too sure about the widening of his eyes. eek if that's possible! its the first time im talking about his face as i never have before so forgive me. I do agree i didnt like what he did in 1999 in what my opinion was a facelift. But it took time to settle down, he made that decision for the long run. His judgment on plastic surgery just like many people's decsions can be clouded and unpredictable and there are just hundreds of celebritys that have done this, even Madonna has had a face lift recently, i think, it was inevitable for MJ. In 2004 when MJ was going to court i thought he was looking much better and now in 2007 he is looking good again. biggrin. As for saying you hate seeing pictures of MJ nowadays have a thought for unfortunate people like Jocelyn Wildenstein.



Shes the lady that wants to look like a cat right??
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Reply #92 posted 09/23/07 10:22pm

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Kash said:Im not too sure about the widening of his eyes. eek if that's possible! its the first time im talking about his face as i never have before so forgive me. I do agree i didnt like what he did in 1999 in what my opinion was a facelift. But it took time to settle down, he made that decision for the long run. His judgment on plastic surgery just like many people's decsions can be clouded and unpredictable and there are just hundreds of celebritys that have done this, even Madonna has had a face lift recently, i think, it was inevitable for MJ. In 2004 when MJ was going to court i thought he was looking much better and now in 2007 he is looking good again. biggrin . As for saying you hate seeing pictures of MJ nowadays have a thought for unfortunate people like Jocelyn Wildenstein.


I thought he looked good during the trial too, but as for him widening his eyes-I just don't buy that lol. I've never heard that one before. His eyes have always looked like that ever since he was a child:



If there is one thing about his physical appearence that has remained the same, it's that. I don't think he's had anything done to his eyes.
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Reply #93 posted 09/23/07 10:22pm

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DANGEROUSx said:

kash said:



Im not too sure about the widening of his eyes. eek if that's possible! its the first time im talking about his face as i never have before so forgive me. I do agree i didnt like what he did in 1999 in what my opinion was a facelift. But it took time to settle down, he made that decision for the long run. His judgment on plastic surgery just like many people's decsions can be clouded and unpredictable and there are just hundreds of celebritys that have done this, even Madonna has had a face lift recently, i think, it was inevitable for MJ. In 2004 when MJ was going to court i thought he was looking much better and now in 2007 he is looking good again. biggrin. As for saying you hate seeing pictures of MJ nowadays have a thought for unfortunate people like Jocelyn Wildenstein.



Shes the lady that wants to look like a cat right??



not too sure about a cat.eek


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Reply #94 posted 09/23/07 10:26pm

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kash said:

DANGEROUSx said:




Shes the lady that wants to look like a cat right??



not too sure about a cat.eek



eek

OMG MY EYES ARE BURNING!!!!!1
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Reply #95 posted 09/23/07 10:56pm

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sammij said:

bboy87 said:


1999 wasn't bad at all. The TV Guide photoshoot he did was cool. he was wearing barely any makeup and actually looked his best since '89.


[Edited 9/23/07 21:54pm]

well shoot... he looks good/normal there too!
wth. neutral
he looks fly!

I've always thought he looked good with the five o'clock shadow...
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Reply #96 posted 09/23/07 11:05pm

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The new pictures look great. The wig he is wearing in this photo shoot is shorter than he has been wearing, but he still needs to go shorter. In 1995 and some of 96 he had great hair. Think the TDCAU video, the 95 VMA's performance and to some extent the Earth Song video (getting a bit long by this point). It was short, a little messy, it made him look more normal. He kind of brought that hair back for the 30th anniversary concert, but not really. I'd like to see him with hair that short again. It suits him more than this long jet-black straightened BS he's wearing.
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Reply #97 posted 09/23/07 11:09pm

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DANGEROUSx said:




Shes the lady that wants to look like a cat right??



not too sure about a cat.eek




eek eek eek
Um. I take that back.
She doesn't even look like a cat?
I'm sure a cat was her inspiration
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Reply #98 posted 09/23/07 11:10pm

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EmbattledWarrior said:

sammij said:


well shoot... he looks good/normal there too!
wth. neutral
he looks fly!

I've always thought he looked good with the five o'clock shadow...


Whats the five o` clock shadow?
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Reply #99 posted 09/23/07 11:18pm

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The new pictures look great. The wig he is wearing in this photo shoot is shorter than he has been wearing, but he still needs to go shorter. In 1995 and some of 96 he had great hair. Think the TDCAU video, the 95 VMA's performance and to some extent the Earth Song video (getting a bit long by this point). It was short, a little messy, it made him look more normal. He kind of brought that hair back for the 30th anniversary concert, but not really. I'd like to see him with hair that short again. It suits him more than this long jet-black straightened BS he's wearing.

ONE LAST TIME.....







There's a difference between a wig and a weave.

Michael has a weave. They're just extensions.
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Reply #100 posted 09/23/07 11:20pm

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DANGEROUSx said:

EmbattledWarrior said:


I've always thought he looked good with the five o'clock shadow...


Whats the five o` clock shadow?
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the hair growth on his face.
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Reply #101 posted 09/23/07 11:24pm

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Oh.

Thanks. biggrin
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Reply #102 posted 09/24/07 12:55am

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EmbattledWarrior said:


I've always thought he looked good with the five o'clock shadow...


Whats the five o` clock shadow?


the hair growth on his face.

ah cool. New expression learned. And yes, he looked HOT in the TV guide shoot.
and speaking of judging....


maybe its about time people stop judging mike and complaining about how he looks compared to ( insert decade here) all im sayin is yea we know mike over did the surgery and whatever circumstances brought along the changes. but aint no use bitching about it, cuz it won't go back to where it use to be.

I should not be made to feel bad for saying mike looks great- or have to include a disclaimer. i know mike is and always will be a black man. but mike is mike, i love and accept him for who he is, and what he's done.
and i move on.


this isn't coming from a delusional fan either.


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Reply #103 posted 09/24/07 3:13am

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Michael looks better here than he has done for ages, but quite frankly Michael cross the line during the late Thriller/Bad era. The surgery should have started and stopped with one nose job, during the Off The Wall era and it should have never gone beyond the Thriller era. Once we got into the Bad era, anyone with eyes knew it would be all the way downhill from there.
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Reply #105 posted 09/24/07 4:18am

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Everytime a new pic of Michael comes out, it's the same old shit of people saying he shouldn't have surgery or he should've stopped after Thriller. No matter how many new photos of him come out, you are still going to think the same thing, so just get over it already. Accept that that's how he looks now, and move on. He looks different, sure. But he still looks good. I really like how he looks in these photos.

People like to think they don't judge people by appearances, but Michael Jackson is the best example of just how judgemental people still are. Because it's become okay to judge Michael Jackson's appearance, people use him as outlet for all their built up judgemental remarks that they aren't allowed to say to other people without being politically incorrect. It's sad, but it's true. People who have racist thoughts hold it in until they can unleash all their racism on Michael Jackson without it looking bad on them. It's terrible. It just shows that the world is still very discriminatory.
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Reply #106 posted 09/24/07 6:37am

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bboy87 said:

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Like you said Jermaine, Jackie, and Randy are quite notorious for their womanizing and rumored abuse of their spouses and girlfriends. As for Marlon and Tito, I should not have included them in my rant against the Jackson brothers and sexism. In fact I like Marlon.

As for Michael, I am just going to write "Dangerous."

I was born sometime after you, so am also used to the way he looks. And I agree. This is the best he has looked since the HIStory era and in particular the awful period between 1999 and 2005.

1999 wasn't bad at all. The TV Guide photoshoot he did was cool. he was wearing barely any makeup and actually looked his best since '89.


[Edited 9/23/07 21:54pm]


I take it back. He still looked alright in 1999. I like what he is wearing in that picture.
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Reply #107 posted 09/24/07 6:40am

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Everytime a new pic of Michael comes out, it's the same old shit of people saying he shouldn't have surgery or he should've stopped after Thriller. No matter how many new photos of him come out, you are still going to think the same thing, so just get over it already. Accept that that's how he looks now, and move on. He looks different, sure. But he still looks good. I really like how he looks in these photos.

People like to think they don't judge people by appearances, but Michael Jackson is the best example of just how judgemental people still are. Because it's become okay to judge Michael Jackson's appearance, people use him as outlet for all their built up judgemental remarks that they aren't allowed to say to other people without being politically incorrect. It's sad, but it's true. People who have racist thoughts hold it in until they can unleash all their racism on Michael Jackson without it looking bad on them. It's terrible. It just shows that the world is still very discriminatory.



disbelief so,if somebody criticizes Michael for his many face-lifts and his many attempts to look "white",they are racists? confuse
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Reply #108 posted 09/24/07 6:42am

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DarlingDiana said:

Everytime a new pic of Michael comes out, it's the same old shit of people saying he shouldn't have surgery or he should've stopped after Thriller. No matter how many new photos of him come out, you are still going to think the same thing, so just get over it already. Accept that that's how he looks now, and move on. He looks different, sure. But he still looks good. I really like how he looks in these photos.

People like to think they don't judge people by appearances, but Michael Jackson is the best example of just how judgemental people still are. Because it's become okay to judge Michael Jackson's appearance, people use him as outlet for all their built up judgemental remarks that they aren't allowed to say to other people without being politically incorrect. It's sad, but it's true. People who have racist thoughts hold it in until they can unleash all their racism on Michael Jackson without it looking bad on them. It's terrible. It just shows that the world is still very discriminatory.



disbelief so,if somebody criticizes Michael for his many face-lifts and his many attempts to look "white",they are racists? confuse


Dear God (if there is one):

Please do not let this thread go to hell. It would be nice for at least one Michael Jackson-related thread to end on a good note.

Sincerely,
Rodya24
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Reply #109 posted 09/24/07 7:18am

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Oh great, Soulalive has arrived.

Let the MJ bashing...BEGIN!

Diana, people say those things because compared to how he used to look, he DOESNT look good now, he looks terrible.

Im a big MJ fan but still get annoyed with Michael for what he has done to himself, although I realise its none of my business.

The lipstick REALLY needs to go though, thats my biggest problem with Michael at the moment, your not a chick Mike.
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Reply #110 posted 09/24/07 7:19am

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you mean some of yall didn't know what a 5 o'clock shadow was? neutral
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Reply #111 posted 09/24/07 7:20am

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sammij said:

you mean some of yall didn't know what a 5 o'clock shadow was? neutral


A number of newer Michael Jackson fans are in their preteens or teens -- hence the complete ignorance about what a 5 o'clock shadow is.

EDIT: Some non-native English speakers are also unaware of what a 5 o'clock shadow is.

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Reply #112 posted 09/24/07 7:22am

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Rodya24 said:

sammij said:

you mean some of yall didn't know what a 5 o'clock shadow was? neutral


A number of newer Michael Jackson fans are in their preteens or teens.

awww, so cute touched (still knew what that was as a teenager giggle but that's just me)
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Reply #113 posted 09/24/07 8:39am

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sammij said:

Rodya24 said:



A number of newer Michael Jackson fans are in their preteens or teens.

awww, so cute touched (still knew what that was as a teenager giggle but that's just me)


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Reply #114 posted 09/24/07 10:18am

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DarlingDiana said:

Everytime a new pic of Michael comes out, it's the same old shit of people saying he shouldn't have surgery or he should've stopped after Thriller. No matter how many new photos of him come out, you are still going to think the same thing, so just get over it already. Accept that that's how he looks now, and move on. He looks different, sure. But he still looks good. I really like how he looks in these photos.

People like to think they don't judge people by appearances, but Michael Jackson is the best example of just how judgemental people still are. Because it's become okay to judge Michael Jackson's appearance, people use him as outlet for all their built up judgemental remarks that they aren't allowed to say to other people without being politically incorrect. It's sad, but it's true. People who have racist thoughts hold it in until they can unleash all their racism on Michael Jackson without it looking bad on them. It's terrible. It just shows that the world is still very discriminatory.


If Michael didn't want people to judge him by his appearance he shouldn't have changed it so much in the first place. No one went on and on and on and on about his appearance in the 70s the way they do today. That in itself tells you something. Or did he really believe no one would notice an attractive black guy turning into a white woman? lol b
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Yes. He comes from a fucked-up family. I still hate him, his brothers, and his father for how all of them treat women; but still love their music. Damn YOU JACKSONS!

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And I wish I were brave enough to write that he looks alright in these pictures without having to attach all the qualifiers in order to stave off accusations of being a delusional fanatic. I was born after Bad was released; this is the Michael Jackson I am used to seeing. Like you I am saddened by what he has done to his face, but I take pictures of him in relation to what he looked like from 1999 to 2005 -- his worst years.
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How are Michael and all of the brothers sexist? Michael, Tito, and Marlon are not sexist IMO. Jermaine, Jackie, and Randy are dogs, though lol

I was born November 1987 so I'm also used to the way he looks and this is the best he's looked since 1999. Ironic, back when I was really young, I knew the guy on the cover of Off the Wall and Thriller was the same guy on the cover of Bad and Moonwalker.


BabyBeMine said:

Zink said:

I hate seeing pictures of MJ nowadays, they just make me feel really sad at what promblems he must of had with himself to make such huge differences to his appearence. sad Poor guy, I generally feel sorry for him.

He doesnt look anywhere near as good as the 70's and 80's but he has had some decent plastic surgery (for once) in the last year or so, he's looking far far far better than the god awful period of 1999 to 2005 (Invincible era was awful).

He still needs to lay off so much make-up and lipstick and show us his REAL hair, bring back the curls!

The two biggest mistakes Michael made with plastic surgery are getting that cleft in his chin and widening his eyes, apart from that I dont think he looks that bad at all at the moment.

Can anybody explain to me why he went REALLY crazy with the surgery during 1999-22001? Because in those 3 years I saw a huge change in the way he looked, bigger that previously.

MJ fans, you really need to ignore the haters and such like.

I hope Michael can come back and prove many people wrong, the music and entertainment business is crying out for Michael Jackson at the moment.



For the longest time i have been trying to figure out what happened after 1998. MJ's complexion is the exact same as 1996 and 1997,but his features changed a lot. I don't know exactly what he did,but his overall look just changed.

I think he looks so much better now though


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Same here!! I was born October 1988. I knew the man from the Rock With you video dressed as a disco ball was the same man in the Billie Jean video lighting up the sidewalk, who was the same man screaming his head off in a train station. I knew all these men were once a little boy from a group with his brothers the Jackson 5. Its funny how I never questioned his appearance. Of course then it wasn't as drastic, but it tickles me when you're that young you don't pay attention to things. Like when me and my sister/auntie were watching the premieres of 'Black or White' and 'Remember the Time' for example, I never thought why -- it actually never even crossed my mind -- why he was paler then ever before. I knew it was still Michael Jackson.

I wonder, if only I was older at the time, how it must of felt to see this sort of thing going on. (Especially when the internet was pretty much a non entity to yap about). I can only imagine...

"Er...does Michael look...lighter to you?"

Like someone said, I'm still trying to figure out what happened from 97 to 2001. His cheeks are sunken in, the cleft looks horrible as ever, his eyes are ..interesting, so on and so forth. My only guess is, once you have that much plastic surgery in your youth, it catches up to you as you age. But if theres any I'm concerned more about than his appearance is his health. Lets face it, its getting hard to breath through that nose. He's been sounding nasally every time he makes a speech (BET 03 James Brown LTA, James Brown funeral, World Music Awards).

Rodya, when you said 60s and 70s, why'd you leave out 80s? 80s Michael was just 70s Michael with a jheri curl.

Nvncible1 said:

I feel you i was born right after bad was released. so im used to "this mike" as well. but i was never really fazed because i can still see lil mike in his eyes, no matter how much has changed.

dave chappelle was right,lol he said look in the eyes, not the noses! lmao

but its true ull see a huge difference- i still see like mike of the jacksons in him cool


LOL thats cool. When did Dave Chappelle say that?

InsatiableCream said:

kash said:




which 4th picture? i cant see no mugshot confuse


the one on the right looks like his mugshot nod




Please don't ever post that most hideous horrific picture of Michael Joseph Jackson to ever exist.

Rodya24 said:

InsatiableCream said:



yeah. but first he's gonna do that charity single nod



Yeah...

Mike, what happened with the Katrina single? Instead of gathering a million of your friends to sing with you, just release a solo song. Jeez...


Lmao, you know Michael.

Zink said:

I hate seeing pictures of MJ nowadays, they just make me feel really sad at what promblems he must of had with himself to make such huge differences to his appearence. sad Poor guy, I generally feel sorry for him.

He doesnt look anywhere near as good as the 70's and 80's but he has had some decent plastic surgery (for once) in the last year or so, he's looking far far far better than the god awful period of 1999 to 2005 (Invincible era was awful).

He still needs to lay off so much make-up and lipstick and show us his REAL hair, bring back the curls!

The two biggest mistakes Michael made with plastic surgery are getting that cleft in his chin and widening his eyes, apart from that I dont think he looks that bad at all at the moment.

Can anybody explain to me why he went REALLY crazy with the surgery during 1999-22001? Because in those 3 years I saw a huge change in the way he looked, bigger that previously.

MJ fans, you really need to ignore the haters and such like.

I hope Michael can come back and prove many people wrong, the music and entertainment business is crying out for Michael Jackson at the moment.


Yea, I have no idea how that happened. The last time he looked decent was 1996-97 ish. After that, he went so completely M.I.A. it was ridiculous. We never saw nothing. He was gone. All of a sudden he comes back in 2001 and he looks like one of the Whoo people from Dr. Suess' "Why the Grinch stole Christmas". eek During that whole era he looked dead. He was slow walking, his hair was a mess; looked like her never put a comb through it. He looked like he had a cold/flu all the time, etc. It was like what Jamie Foxx said "..its like all of a sudden he got old. Did you see him on MTV? Barely can moonwalk, what was there gum on the floor? That ain't Michael man, that has to be some puppet or something," Eddie Griffin was saying the same thing in his stand up. I honestly don't think MJ was ready to come back in 2001. Everything was half assed. And if the You Rock My World video wasn't a rehash recycled MJ video if I ever did see one...to say a disappointment would be an understatement.

BabyBeMine said:

I like the pics and its the best he has looked in years,but i still think he can look better

Lay off the lipstick and sport the slick back hair with a pony tail and then MJ would be stylin


Sorry to say, but if he had his pony tail slicked back again, he will not look like he did in 1992. Just look at the Remember the Time video. He had more or less the same hairstyle that hes rocking now (sans lacefront) and he was by far much better looking then (thats a given).

BabyBeMine said:

Zink said:

I hate seeing pictures of MJ nowadays, they just make me feel really sad at what promblems he must of had with himself to make such huge differences to his appearence. sad Poor guy, I generally feel sorry for him.

He doesnt look anywhere near as good as the 70's and 80's but he has had some decent plastic surgery (for once) in the last year or so, he's looking far far far better than the god awful period of 1999 to 2005 (Invincible era was awful).

He still needs to lay off so much make-up and lipstick and show us his REAL hair, bring back the curls!

The two biggest mistakes Michael made with plastic surgery are getting that cleft in his chin and widening his eyes, apart from that I dont think he looks that bad at all at the moment.

Can anybody explain to me why he went REALLY crazy with the surgery during 1999-22001? Because in those 3 years I saw a huge change in the way he looked, bigger that previously.

MJ fans, you really need to ignore the haters and such like.

I hope Michael can come back and prove many people wrong, the music and entertainment business is crying out for Michael Jackson at the moment.



For the longest time i have been trying to figure out what happened after 1998. MJ's complexion is the exact same as 1996 and 1997,but his features changed a lot. I don't know exactly what he did,but his overall look just changed.

I think he looks so much better now though


May I remind the "BRING BACK THE CURLS!" people that half is head is burned, so I don't think that'll be too easy a task...

Fuck the curls. Bring back the afro! Grow it nappy Michael. Drive the media crazy.
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Reply #116 posted 09/24/07 2:34pm

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Damn, you guys are making me feel OLD!!! This is th Michael Jackson I grew up with! Look close...that little Black kid in the center is actually him believe it or not!!! lol lol lol




Same here. I was born in '1961 and have nothing but fond memories of the J5, practicing their moves, dancing to their music at kiddie parties, reading about them in Right On! magazine every month. And all the dudes were rocking their J5 'fro. As another Orger pointed out, Michael was Soul Brother #2 behind the Godfather.

Sadly that Michael is lone gone. The brother went nuts and totally f-d himself up.
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From that pic, I just realized how much Chris Tucker looks like MJ (even tho he has nothing to do w/ this particular picture lol)
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