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Reply #60 posted 09/22/07 7:55am

MsLegs

blackguitaristz said:

theAudience said:

Don't sell Stanley Clarke short regarding his ability to Funk.
You must have heard the version of Mothership Connection he and George Duke did.

The deal with Stanley is that he's got techniques other than Funk in his arsenal.

Check tunes like..

Power
Silly Putty
Hello Jeff
School Days
The Dancer


...All have very funky bass parts at times, they're just not necessarily FUNK tunes.

I'm sure many of you have heard the Purple One lunge into Clarke's Lopsy Lu lick live.


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Yep. I was going to say that Clarke can play all of the licks Larry and Bootsy can play BUT Larry and Bootsy would be hard pressed to play what Stanley CAN play. Stanley's "School Days" and "Power" is STOOPID. I LOVE Stanley's stuff with Return To Forever.

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Reply #61 posted 09/22/07 8:15am

Graycap23

I never knew that Bootsy played on Dukey Stick with George Duke.
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Reply #62 posted 09/22/07 8:43am

FuNkeNsteiN

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FuNkeNsteiN said:


doh!
Guess I should've done a direct search on Amazon wink
Anyways, thanks mate, Imma order a copy.


It's worth picking up. thumbs up!

Yea, I ordered it yesterday cool
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Reply #63 posted 09/23/07 1:30pm

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paligap said:

theAudience said:



I'm sure many of you have heard the Purple One lunge into Clarke's Lopsy Lu lick live.


Yeah, P was checkin' Stanley out, lol!

Ndeed, That tune's a Favorite, especially with the Funk/Fusion crowd....

Shoot, Mark King's tune, "Heathrow" was completely lifted from the rhythm of "Lopsy Lu", Lol!!

I like Stanley's Funk on tracks like the Title tune from "I Wanna Play For You", also his tune "Slow Dance", from "Modern Man", and "Just Family" from Dee Dee Bridgewater's album of the same name....



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"I Wanna Play For You" is an example of what I was talking about. If you listen to Stanley on songs like that you'd know exactly what I'm saying. His playing is superior and you hear sheer genius in his playing. I can picture Stanley playing what Bootsy and Larry play but I can't picture Bootsy and Larry playing what Stanley plays.
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Reply #64 posted 09/24/07 11:11pm

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Graycap23 said:

I never knew that Bootsy played on Dukey Stick with George Duke.

I didn't know that either. I know George Duke often SOUNDS like Bootsy vocally on a lot of his tracks, but I don't think that was ever actually Bootsy on record. Could be wrong.
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Reply #65 posted 09/25/07 1:23am

MsLegs

BlaqueKnight said:

paligap said:



Yeah, P was checkin' Stanley out, lol!

Ndeed, That tune's a Favorite, especially with the Funk/Fusion crowd....

Shoot, Mark King's tune, "Heathrow" was completely lifted from the rhythm of "Lopsy Lu", Lol!!

I like Stanley's Funk on tracks like the Title tune from "I Wanna Play For You", also his tune "Slow Dance", from "Modern Man", and "Just Family" from Dee Dee Bridgewater's album of the same name....



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"I Wanna Play For You" is an example of what I was talking about. If you listen to Stanley on songs like that you'd know exactly what I'm saying. His playing is superior and you hear sheer genius in his playing. I can picture Stanley playing what Bootsy and Larry play but I can't picture Bootsy and Larry playing what Stanley plays.

nod Indeed. thumbs up!
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Reply #66 posted 09/25/07 4:19am

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BlaqueKnight said:

paligap said:



Yeah, P was checkin' Stanley out, lol!

Ndeed, That tune's a Favorite, especially with the Funk/Fusion crowd....

Shoot, Mark King's tune, "Heathrow" was completely lifted from the rhythm of "Lopsy Lu", Lol!!

I like Stanley's Funk on tracks like the Title tune from "I Wanna Play For You", also his tune "Slow Dance", from "Modern Man", and "Just Family" from Dee Dee Bridgewater's album of the same name....



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"I Wanna Play For You" is an example of what I was talking about. If you listen to Stanley on songs like that you'd know exactly what I'm saying. His playing is superior and you hear sheer genius in his playing. I can picture Stanley playing what Bootsy and Larry play but I can't picture Bootsy and Larry playing what Stanley plays.

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Reply #67 posted 09/25/07 10:14am

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PDogz said:

Graycap23 said:

I never knew that Bootsy played on Dukey Stick with George Duke.

I didn't know that either. I know George Duke often SOUNDS like Bootsy vocally on a lot of his tracks, but I don't think that was ever actually Bootsy on record. Could be wrong.


It wasn't Bootsy. George Duke's Vocals and Keys, Bass solo by Byron Miller, Duke's bassist....



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Reply #68 posted 09/25/07 3:20pm

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paligap said:

PDogz said:


I didn't know that either. I know George Duke often SOUNDS like Bootsy vocally on a lot of his tracks, but I don't think that was ever actually Bootsy on record. Could be wrong.


It wasn't Bootsy. George Duke's Vocals and Keys, Bass solo by Byron Miller, Duke's bassist....



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Kool..... I thought that was wrong.
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Reply #69 posted 09/25/07 5:25pm

Thumparello

Bootsy all the way!!! (nuff said)

http://www.youtube.com/wa...iTUYaGTtoY


Check out this old clip with Maceo, Bootsy , George and the late Phillipe Wynne. lol
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Reply #70 posted 09/26/07 4:49pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

paligap said:



Yeah, P was checkin' Stanley out, lol!

Ndeed, That tune's a Favorite, especially with the Funk/Fusion crowd....

Shoot, Mark King's tune, "Heathrow" was completely lifted from the rhythm of "Lopsy Lu", Lol!!

I like Stanley's Funk on tracks like the Title tune from "I Wanna Play For You", also his tune "Slow Dance", from "Modern Man", and "Just Family" from Dee Dee Bridgewater's album of the same name....



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"I Wanna Play For You" is an example of what I was talking about. If you listen to Stanley on songs like that you'd know exactly what I'm saying. His playing is superior and you hear sheer genius in his playing. I can picture Stanley playing what Bootsy and Larry play but I can't picture Bootsy and Larry playing what Stanley plays.

BK, that's what I just said!!
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Reply #71 posted 09/26/07 9:52pm

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I think the whole problem with "Who's Better?" is that it's all subjective -- it depends on what kind of feel you like as a listener. If you're talking about technical proficieny-- sure, it's gonna be guys like Stanley, Jaco, and Marcus--thing is, there's always someone who will come down, learn from the original, and take it a step further, guys like Victor Wooten, Hadrien Feraud, Matt Garrison, etc--

Then you have Funk, which is all about feel, about the Space between the Notes, and there are so many different takes on that--both Bootsy and Larry are the original masters at that.....and Bootsy himself says he was influenced by Larry, went and took it to another level. According to bassist Anthony Jackson, Louis Johnsonsupposedly developed his Thumb thing around the same time that Larry Graham started thumping, and developed it along different lines, so there's another take on it.

Since he's a Jazz and Fusion artist, Stanley's much more studied and versatile than the other two, but he's never gonna have Bootsy's feel for Funk, nor Larry's for that matter...in turn, they don't do the intricate stuff that Stanley does...and that's where individual style comes into play. I've heard people diss Mark Adams from Slave , pecause he jams in E so much, But he's got a feel that much more proficient players will never have. If I could be that Funky jammin' in E all day long, I'd be there right now.....

Rocco Prestia, from Tower Of Power, can't read a note of music, but I haven't heard anybody play that stuttering 16th note Funk the way he does....Mark King of Level 42 wasn't even a bass player originally---- he's a drummer who incorporated a percussive drumming technique into his playing, and that's his individual take on the bass...

Guys like Nathan East and Freddie Washington have a nice clean fluid Funk sound, and artists and producers call them for their respective feel....

Even somebody like Paul McCartney has got a certain feel that only he can bring....

--and look at Prince, he doesn't have the technical ability of, say, Rhonda Smith, but he's got a greasy funk feel that Rhonda just doesn't have. So it all depends on what style a person prefers.....



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clapping . . .and there it is.

So, on a personal note--I give my vote to Stanley.
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Reply #72 posted 09/27/07 2:39am

MsLegs

blackguitaristz said:

BlaqueKnight said:




"I Wanna Play For You" is an example of what I was talking about. If you listen to Stanley on songs like that you'd know exactly what I'm saying. His playing is superior and you hear sheer genius in his playing. I can picture Stanley playing what Bootsy and Larry play but I can't picture Bootsy and Larry playing what Stanley plays.

BK, that's what I just said!!

thumbs up!
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Reply #73 posted 09/27/07 1:34pm

funkpill

Has Robert "Kool" Bell been mention?? hmmm


I'm talkin pre- J.T. Taylor years biggrin
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Reply #74 posted 09/27/07 1:41pm

FuNkeNsteiN

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funkpill said:

Has Robert "Kool" Bell been mention?? hmmm


I'm talkin pre- J.T. Taylor years biggrin

I don't think his skill deteriorated when J.T. came along lol
Anyways, yea, he has definitely done some interesting stuff on the bass cool
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