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PrintableMiles said:  How come nobody's mentioned the 'Source' (or one of 'em) -
James Jamerson. He was to bass what John Coltrane was to the tenor sax  (in that he extended its range beyond previous parameters, taking the next generation of players with him.).
I know Bootsy was greatly influenced by JJ in his youth, as were many others. Out of the 3 mentioned, I'd go for Boots - especially his early work with James Brown, tho his work with P Funk and beyond is no joke either. For me, he is the funkiest of the three, subjectively speaking. Larry I dig - Impressive chops but maybe a little limited (or liberated depending on how you view it) by the groove. Obviously, virtually the whole of Prince's bass technique and preferred bass style for his band bass players is derived from Larry.
Stanley Clarke, I confess I don't really know, as Miles and a few others aside, my long-term musical explorations have concluded that I don't particularly dig '70s 'fusion'.  I respect his knowledge of the bass and music, from the interviews I've read with him tho.
I like Jaco in small doses, and Marcus is good as an all-round artist, as well as a cool bass player. He learnt from Miles that 'space is the place for the bass', if you get ma meaning.  . Too many notes spoil the broth.Jamerson is definitely one of the greatest bass players of all time. I didn't mention him, or any other of my favorite bassists, cause this thread was about Larry, Bootsy & Stanley  It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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FuNkeNsteiN said: Jamerson is definitely one of the greatest bass players of all time. I didn't mention him, or any other of my favorite bassists, cause this thread was about Larry, Bootsy & Stanley
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Miles said: FuNkeNsteiN said: Jamerson is definitely one of the greatest bass players of all time. I didn't mention him, or any other of my favorite bassists, cause this thread was about Larry, Bootsy & Stanley
You have to realise you're dealing with free association Miles - Off-topic - What does that mean?? What does what mean?  It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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FuNkeNsteiN said: Miles said: You have to realise you're dealing with free association Miles - Off-topic - What does that mean?? What does what mean? Ironic joke - Just sayin', when I get inspired writing a post, I like to drift a little off topic every now and then, as my thoughts take me. | |
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Miles said: FuNkeNsteiN said: What does what mean? Ironic joke - Just sayin', when I get inspired writing a post, I like to drift a little off topic every now and then, as my thoughts take me. Ah yes, indeed
Not to worry, you drifted off-topic into a very worthy subject, Jamerson. [Edited 9/20/07 14:33pm] It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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LoDog said: Who do you think was the better bassist between these huge funk and musical legends. I think I will give the slight edge to Bootsy for the simple fact he was a little bit edgeier. All was good no doubt but my pick is Bootsy in a 15 round split decision.
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Uh,,,who's better? MJ or MJ? Magic or Jordan? It's one of those types of questions. I have all of their albums. I've actually got to meet Stanley and my band actually got to open up for Bootsy at the House of Blues. Stanley, technically, is the better musician. That said, he in no way is my fave of the three. That goes to Bootsy. Which is a compliment to Graham being that Bootsy was wildy influenced by Larry. Especially Larry's solo stuff. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Dig, this is for the cats on here who play. Listen to the bass line during the intro to one of the greatest songs, Graham's "Today". Then listen to how Bootsy uses it and splits up basically the same riff on his "Another Point of View". Graham opened it up for Bootsy in a major way. Clarke did too. Deeper still, it was a guitarist who really influenced all 3 into taking their instrument and bringing it to the fore front and treating it like a lead instrument. He gave them the freedom and the courage that he himself exuded. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: Deeper still, it was a guitarist who really influenced all 3 into taking their instrument and bringing it to the fore front and treating it like a lead instrument. He gave them the freedom and the courage that he himself exuded.
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I choose Boosty. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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The org. must not sleep on Buddy Hankerson..the bassist for Slave/Aurra..visit his you tube stuff..it is banannas....then I like Thunder Thumbs for a close second... | |
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LexNevermind said: The org. must not sleep on Buddy Hankerson..the bassist for Slave/Aurra..visit his you tube stuff..it is banannas....then I like Thunder Thumbs for a close second...
Actually, Buddy Hankerson only did stuff for Aurra. Mark Adams played bass for Slave. He is also one of my favorites. It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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Don't sell Stanley Clarke short regarding his ability to Funk.
You must have heard the version of Mothership Connection he and George Duke did. The deal with Stanley is that he's got techniques other than Funk in his arsenal. Check tunes like.. Power Silly Putty Hello Jeff School Days The Dancer ...All have very funky bass parts at times, they're just not necessarily FUNK tunes. I'm sure many of you have heard the Purple One lunge into Clarke's Lopsy Lu lick live. tA Tribal Disorder
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theAudience said: I'm sure many of you have heard the Purple One lunge into Clarke's Lopsy Lu lick live. Yeah, P was checkin' Stanley out, lol! Ndeed, That tune's a Favorite, especially with the Funk/Fusion crowd.... Shoot, Mark King's tune, "Heathrow" was completely lifted from the rhythm of "Lopsy Lu", Lol!! I like Stanley's Funk on tracks like the Title tune from "I Wanna Play For You", also his tune "Slow Dance", from "Modern Man", and "Just Family" from Dee Dee Bridgewater's album of the same name.... ... [Edited 9/21/07 19:24pm] " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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paligap said: theAudience said: I'm sure many of you have heard the Purple One lunge into Clarke's Lopsy Lu lick live. Yeah, P was checkin' Stanley out, lol! Ndeed, That tune's a Favorite, especially with the Funk/Fusion crowd.... Shoot, Mark King's tune, "Heathrow" was completely lifted from the rhythm of "Lopsy Lu", Lol!! I like Stanley's Funk on tracks like the Title tune from "I Wanna Play For You", also his tune "Slow Dance", from "Modern Man", and "Just Family" from Dee Dee Bridgewater's album of the same name.... ... 'zactly.
Oh, and I forgot to mention Stanley's playing on RTF's Sofistifunk from No Mystery. C'mon, Super-Space-Funk.
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paligap said: theAudience said: I'm sure many of you have heard the Purple One lunge into Clarke's Lopsy Lu lick live. Yeah, P was checkin' Stanley out, lol! Ndeed, That tune's a Favorite, especially with the Funk/Fusion crowd.... Shoot, Mark King's tune, "Heathrow" was completely lifted from the rhythm of "Lopsy Lu", Lol!! I like Stanley's Funk on tracks like the Title tune from "I Wanna Play For You", also his tune "Slow Dance", from "Modern Man", and "Just Family" from Dee Dee Bridgewater's album of the same name.... ... [Edited 9/21/07 19:24pm] I was just gonna mention that. 'I Wanna Play For You' is sho nuff funky It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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theAudience said: Don't sell Stanley Clarke short regarding his ability to Funk.
You must have heard the version of Mothership Connection he and George Duke did. It's on 'Clarke/Duke Project III', right? I haven't heard. I've been wanting to get a copy of that album, since I got the previous two, but I haven't found it anywhere. It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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FuNkeNsteiN said: theAudience said: Don't sell Stanley Clarke short regarding his ability to Funk.
You must have heard the version of Mothership Connection he and George Duke did. It's on 'Clarke/Duke Project III', right? I haven't heard. I've been wanting to get a copy of that album, since I got the previous two, but I haven't found it anywhere. It's just called... 
...3 If you hurry, you can get it a used copy for $3 or a new copy for $8.95 on Amazon. Their version of Mothership Connection is also on Stanley's... 
...The Bass-ic Collection comp. tA Tribal Disorder
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Stanley. The brother can funk like crazy, then turn around and do lyrical runs. His influence is serious, too.
I would put Marcus in a close second. tA, thanks for the Chester Thompson reference. I've been thinking about contacting him and seeing what the goings-on for classes are...
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Calligraphy said: tA, thanks for the Chester Thompson reference. I've been thinking about contacting him and seeing what the goings-on for classes are...
He said I had "big ears."
You're welcome and I won't blow your cover. 
(and you're referring to the other Chester Thompson)
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theAudience said: FuNkeNsteiN said: It's on 'Clarke/Duke Project III', right? I haven't heard. I've been wanting to get a copy of that album, since I got the previous two, but I haven't found it anywhere. It's just called...
...3 If you hurry, you can get it a used copy for $3 or a new copy for $8.95 on Amazon. Their version of Mothership Connection is also on Stanley's...
...The Bass-ic Collection comp. tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 
Guess I should've done a direct search on Amazon
Anyways, thanks mate, Imma order a copy. It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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FuNkeNsteiN said: theAudience said: It's just called...
...3 If you hurry, you can get it a used copy for $3 or a new copy for $8.95 on Amazon. Their version of Mothership Connection is also on Stanley's...
...The Bass-ic Collection comp. tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431
Guess I should've done a direct search on Amazon
Anyways, thanks mate, Imma order a copy. It's worth picking up.  | |
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On Stanley's East River Drive disc, "Funk is its own Reward" is a killer.
He made some funky turns on the Hendrix tribute disc In from the Storm, too, covering "Rainy Day" with Taj Mahal, Robben Ford and the late great Tony Williams. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Stanley is the better player. For many years, people called him the "best" in the way that people call Victor Wooten the "best" nowadays.
It just basically means he was the most proficient player with a recognizable name of that time period. Boosty became synonymous with funk in the 70s because he more or less developed the concept the most, so he probably deserves the title of "funk legend" moreso than Stanley or Larry, who is credited with popularizing the thumping technique. Larry is the "godfather" of funk, so to speak. On pure playing ability, I think Stanley was miles ahead of Bootsy and Larry, which is not a diss to any of them because they are all great bass players bringing different things to the table. I agree with totally. And to add on what you stated thus far,I've got to acknowledge the fact that Stanley is not only the most proficient but diversified bass player as well. He's not only dabbled in Jazz, Funk, but Classical as well. Furthermore, he's arranged and written for soundtracks for movies as well. | |
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theAudience said: Of the three, i'd have to go with Stanley for the reasons BK laid out above.
For those same reasons, Marcus Miller & Jaco Pastorius deserve some consideration. Speaking of Marcus, you should check out his take on What Is Hip? from his latest album... 
...FREE He recruited Chester Thompson (former keys w/Tower of Power) along with David Sanborn to do the tune with him. Agreed. Marcus gets honorable mention since he is another heavy hitter. | |
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MsLegs said: BlaqueKnight said: Stanley is the better player. For many years, people called him the "best" in the way that people call Victor Wooten the "best" nowadays.
It just basically means he was the most proficient player with a recognizable name of that time period. Boosty became synonymous with funk in the 70s because he more or less developed the concept the most, so he probably deserves the title of "funk legend" moreso than Stanley or Larry, who is credited with popularizing the thumping technique. Larry is the "godfather" of funk, so to speak. On pure playing ability, I think Stanley was miles ahead of Bootsy and Larry, which is not a diss to any of them because they are all great bass players bringing different things to the table. I agree with totally. And to add on what you stated thus far,I've got to acknowledge the fact that Stanley is not only the most proficient but diversified bass player as well. He's not only dabbled in Jazz, Funk, but Classical as well. Furthermore, he's arranged and written for soundtracks for movies as well.  And, certainly while we're talking about diversity of an oeuvre, I can't say enough about the talents of this man:
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theAudience said: Of course TA, we can't leave this leganary cat out. | |
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theAudience said: FuNkeNsteiN said: It's on 'Clarke/Duke Project III', right? I haven't heard. I've been wanting to get a copy of that album, since I got the previous two, but I haven't found it anywhere. It's just called...
...3 If you hurry, you can get it a used copy for $3 or a new copy for $8.95 on Amazon. Their version of Mothership Connection is also on Stanley's...
...The Bass-ic Collection comp. tA Tribal Disorder
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theAudience said: Don't sell Stanley Clarke short regarding his ability to Funk.
You must have heard the version of Mothership Connection he and George Duke did. The deal with Stanley is that he's got techniques other than Funk in his arsenal. Check tunes like.. Power Silly Putty Hello Jeff School Days The Dancer ...All have very funky bass parts at times, they're just not necessarily FUNK tunes. I'm sure many of you have heard the Purple One lunge into Clarke's Lopsy Lu lick live. tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 Yep. I was going to say that Clarke can play all of the licks Larry and Bootsy can play BUT Larry and Bootsy would be hard pressed to play what Stanley CAN play. Stanley's "School Days" and "Power" is STOOPID. I LOVE Stanley's stuff with Return To Forever. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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MsLegs said: theAudience said: It's just called...
...3 If you hurry, you can get it a used copy for $3 or a new copy for $8.95 on Amazon. Their version of Mothership Connection is also on Stanley's...
...The Bass-ic Collection comp. tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 There was a live video of them playing Mother ship on the net a few years ago. Anyone remeber where that was? It was 10 minutes of pure funk. | |
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