floetcist said:

I don't think he did, if so he'd probably be bawling his eyes out or some shit. It shouldn't bother him that much if he's proud to be a black man. But you see so many people criticize him for only acknowledging his "heritage" so to speak when he gets into legal troubles, as Katt stated: "he spent his whole life trying to be a white woman but when trouble comes, he brings in the Black Muslims, how you gon' be a Muslim when you got a white woman/pork face? How you gonna be a Muslim when half your face is pork?" However, I don't think no one knows that he does care about his heritage. Maybe with his kids it's a question mark, I don't really wanna get into that because that is such a touchy subject. But other than that, Michael still embraces his culture to a fault. I think the fact that he looks abstractly different from his non-surgerical image is how so many of us think the way Katt does. I actually don't, but I can understand people's opinions...unlike some people.

But anyway, back to the topic at hand, I just wonder what the cover is gonna look like with him on it and if there is an interview on there, what will he talk about?

By the way I registered to MJNO but I'll probably be a lurker. Flo, I saw one thread where some crazy ass fan said Michael looked sexy now than he EVER did. Talk about delusions.

Timmy84 said:

I've seen that special. I think Katt really hates Mike. Out of all the stand up I've seen over the years from the Def Jam era of comics, no one, and I mean no one has ever talked about Michael that badly and with that much hate. Even the audience weren't laughing and the one who were it was more of a forceful laugh. They actually looked shocked.

qwertyuiop said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Yeah the audience were like when he said out loud "FUCK HIM!" They were all like "WTF!?!" Some of them forced themselves to laugh as if it was really funny but in honest truth it really wasn't. It left me with a bad taste in my mouth. Goodness knows if Michael was to perform at say, the BET Awards, and Katt happened to be there, he dare say something and get booed out of the stage like Paul Mooney when he lambasted Diane Ross at the BET Comedy Awards. Ok, maybe he wasn't "booed" but Tracee Ross reportedly got in a verbal tussle with him afterwards.

Timmy84 said:

She had to tell his ass about himself...Miss Ross is DA BOSS

Anyway, I hope 2 see the cover. Cant wait 4 his new album...hope it got some good slow jams.




Michael jacksons face is getting really old already....it's not gonna change...unless he has another major surgery, and if they do it might clearly ruin his face all over again. He was a cute black man, hell i wudda fucked him. Then he was a cute Puerto Rican / black dude too..then it just went out from there....though that didnt stop the jams, the dancing and the simple fact that he is the most generous peron in the world.

Rodya24 said:

Did I ever say that YOU were White?

And I don't give a damn if its his face. People who are depressed cut themselves. Does that make it okay, its their body? No. Those plastic surgeons are immortal. Someone should of said no, but money talks. Thats what happens when you're around yes men around you for the majority of your career. No one told him no. I think he finally snapped out of it now, seeing his new people around him.

I know he's proud to be black, but the general public isn't exposed to all the charity work he does in Africa, or anything related to black people. No I'm not expecting for him to be militant Malcolm X, but goddamn Michael. Its bad enough people think you're a sell out - SPEAK OUT FOR YOURSELF. If he wants to stay reclusive and not say a damn thing about his vitiligo, more power to him. But don't fucking complain about tabloids and the media for making up lies. Of course there is speculation and made up stories and what not; although thats what they normally do, it wouldn't be so much of a problem if you fucking said something. Damnit Michael did all that soul glo get into your brain?????

1993 is a little too late to talk about your skin now isn't it? [Oprah Winfrey]. And even then, it was far too brief and he didn't even say the name of his disorder. If I was him I'd fucking roll up my sleeves, roll up my slacks and glittery socks and say HERE. YOU SEE THIS SHIT? VITILIGO. GET A GOOD LOOK AT IT. NOW LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE YOU MARK ASS BITCHES!

I hope for dear life he hasn't watched that Katt Williams stand up

LoDog said:

I don't think he looks that old, I just think he looks.....well what can I say! Like you I can't bear to look at his pictures anymore, so I doubt I will be getting the Italian vogue.

I wonder with the help of photoshop Vogue can make Michael look like this, again. This will freak many of his non-black, current fan base out. This is a pic of MJ circa late 7os.

floetcist said:

Yeah, yeah, I agree with all that. But honestly, these subjects on his face ALWAYS turn ugly. Before you know it the moron with the Prince pictures will come to this thread "proving" that Michael Jackson always wanted to look like him, etc. Let's leave the man in peace. Like you said, this Katt Williams person (I have no idea who that is) seems to be cruel enough.

whatsgoingon said:

Aw c'mon, he looks different than he once did, but he's not hideous. He still his those beautiful eyes. It's just his cheeks are sunken, and that's because he's so thin. He's not wearing his 'thinness' as well as he once did because of age. I remember how great he looked at the virgin mega store signing - 2001. He was heavier then. His face was full.

Rodya24 said:

This is a joke right?



Tim, I'm with you on the Katt William things. The only stand ups that actually knew what they were talking about [concerning the 03-05 trial] were Dave Chappelle and Paul Mooney, who were actually funny. Katt Williams wasn't making any jokes. There were no punchlines, no concept, no thoughtful intelligent layout. It was a straight up rant. And you could feel the awkwardness in the air like wow...okay.

And while I know its in Michael's nature to be quiet and keep it brief ('I wish him well, thank you and goodbye') when it comes to everything, and I do respect that because celebrities these days have no control sometimes (I won't be saying no names) but for just once, if he were to ever go off on somebody I'd be so happy. Sort of on topic, but Kanye West said in an interview that Michael had called him up one day and basically told him to stop that shit (not his words). Just the thought makes me smile. What I'd pay to hear him on the phone.

Michael could of been a model, if he weren't a singer.




And I agree, the only way he could look 'hot' is if they cut and paste his head from 1984 and call it a day. Hell, I'd even settle for 1992 Remember the Time era. At least he was pretty and had a nice wash and set hairstyle.

And I think we can all agree we miss Michael when he was Soul Brother #2.




Speaking of his white, current fanbase. They refuse to believe that Michael Jackson used to date Stephanie Mills. When she spoke about it in an interview, they all said she was 'imagining things' or some shit like that. They don't believe 'her story'. But they believe Brooke Shield's, Lisa Marie Presley's and Tatum O'Neal's? Stephanie to date, is the only woman in his past who has spoke positively of Michael. Both Tatum and Brooke denied ever being more than friends with MJ, even though they clearly were. And Lisa...good lord, I don't even know why [some] of MJ fans like her.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FDRRdpny69Y


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I agree 100%. I don't even have anything to add to that. Which is rare, cause I tend to run my mouth.

By the way, what Stephanie Mills thread? You mean here at Prince.org or an MJ board?

Originally Posted by noahboy
If "alot of people" think MJ is "ugly", then I wanna know where those people live?? Seriously, where do these people live? Sexytown? Handsomeville? Where everybody looks like Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolies lovebaby? I wanna live there too if that's the case. Anyway ontopic I honestly think MJ at the WMA was better lookin the Thriller. Seriously. And at James Browns funeral too. And not alot of people look better as the years go by. If that was the case my grandma would be the hottest thing around.. (Seriously she's gotta be around 105 or something.)

Agreed. I didn't really like how he looked during the Thriller era.

Ohh okay, cool.

I'm the one who uploaded that interview on YouTube, by the way. My account go recently suspended, so all my videos are removed Its such a shame too, because there was really good conversation in the comments section. Nearly 200, last time I saw.

The YouTube link I just sent you is what I just re-uploaded yesterday.

And one more [disturbing] thing..

By the way, if you get sick in the stomach easily...DON'T go view the thread and look at the 'pictures' that think hes look 'hotter'.







Also, something else I've picked up on. White folks who aren't fans of MJ thinks he looks better "when he was black". I don't know, but I think thats very telling.
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Nah, thats another can of jheri curl soul glo juice that shouldn't be opened. Then I'd have to go back and forth between TWO threads. One Michael Jackson discussion is hard to keep up with enough

Grace, I think they're together...honestly. She is the only non-blood related woman in his life, and lets face it...theres not many people he can trust at this point. They've known each other for a long time, he trusts her, they live together, they obviously are friendly, his kids like her, shes pretty, um hello? Fuck. I bet they're already married too. Pull a Janet and not tell anymore for 20483095i9034 years. Not going to bring it out to public (at least, not now. But I'm one step ahead of you Mike!!) so the media doesn't rip them to shreds. Well, more so than they usual do. Speaking of... I haven't seem them together in paparazzi photos lately, so shes probably pregnant with Prince Michael III whose nickname will be...? I think we should have a guessing game.

I completely forgot about something thats heavily related to this thread (or...er, what we were talking about once we diverted from the original topic of him being on the cover of a magazine ).

Hours of leaked phone calls between Michael and a lady from (Glenda) he speaks candidly about his life, and its very revealing. No one has the full 8 hours (or possibly more) but I have a good amount to listen to. He is very real here, and I don't want to remind anyone of Chris Crocker but you can see that he is a 'human' here. lol

http://www.divshare.com/m...der=154642

Theres also something really funny in one of the clips that I just have to describe here I can't remember which number it is though, sorry. lol

Anyway, Michael is speaking to Glenda about Randy's girlfriend Kathy, who is a nurse (obviously black) and how she told him she doesn't like white men's penises., how she had to work with these old white men all the time. That she could never be with a white man not because shes prejudice, its just not for her and that she didn't want 'no pink and white stuff inside' me. He also said something about Kathy saying she had to jerk up their penises (or something) and black man's penises are not like that.



He also cusses a bit in here too. Its kind of cute cause his voice is so soft. Like in one the clips, he was ranting on Joseph (he really goes off) and said at the end "he can suck my...socks".



When he spoke about a situation where Joseph smacked him for not doing something right [J5 rehearsal] and threatened that he would not perform [the next day] if he hit him again, and admitted Joe's deep voice saying "What the fuck did you just say?" And he said that he would throw his shoe at him and run like hell

I WAS LIKE OH SNAP! I remember him talking about those sort of things on that 2003 'Living With Michael Jackson' interview.

He also spoke about how fake Motown was, and that they were made to lie and how they marketed things. He is speaking to Glenda's husband at this point. He was like (paraphrasing) "They made us look like one whole happy family. And Joseph was you know,'Papa Joe'. Oh they're so tight knit...tight knit my ass!"



And of course, theres another clip where he's talking to Glenda's daughter about kid shit.

Glenda's husband starts talking about how beautiful Janet is and how wonderful of a personality (and even asks for her number. Michael doesn't say anything or make any sort of response, so think he got the memo). Mike agrees and then adds, Janet is a natural beauty too, not like LaToya she wears weaves and stuff (I KIDD YOU NOT THATS WHAT HE SAID).

I love Michael.
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Nah, thats another can of jheri curl soul glo juice that shouldn't be opened. Then I'd have to go back and forth between TWO threads. One Michael Jackson discussion is hard to keep up with enough

Grace, I think they're together...honestly. She is the only non-blood related woman in his life, and lets face it...theres not many people he can trust at this point. They've known each other for a long time, he trusts her, they live together, they obviously are friendly, his kids like her, shes pretty, um hello? Fuck. I bet they're already married too. Pull a Janet and not tell anymore for 20483095i9034 years. Not going to bring it out to public (at least, not now. But I'm one step ahead of you Mike!!) so the media doesn't rip them to shreds. Well, more so than they usual do. Speaking of... I haven't seem them together in paparazzi photos lately, so shes probably pregnant with Prince Michael III whose nickname will be...? I think we should have a guessing game.

I completely forgot about something thats heavily related to this thread (or...er, what we were talking about once we diverted from the original topic of him being on the cover of a magazine ).

Hours of leaked phone calls between Michael and a lady from (Glenda) he speaks candidly about his life, and its very revealing. No one has the full 8 hours (or possibly more) but I have a good amount to listen to. He is very real here, and I don't want to remind anyone of Chris Crocker but you can see that he is a 'human' here. lol

http://www.divshare.com/m...der=154642

Theres also something really funny in one of the clips that I just have to describe here I can't remember which number it is though, sorry. lol

Anyway, Michael is speaking to Glenda about Randy's girlfriend Kathy, who is a nurse (obviously black) and how she told him she doesn't like white men's penises., how she had to work with these old white men all the time. That she could never be with a white man not because shes prejudice, its just not for her and that she didn't want 'no pink and white stuff inside' me. He also said something about Kathy saying she had to jerk up their penises (or something) and black man's penises are not like that.



He also cusses a bit in here too. Its kind of cute cause his voice is so soft. Like in one the clips, he was ranting on Joseph (he really goes off) and said at the end "he can suck my...socks".



When he spoke about a situation where Joseph smacked him for not doing something right [J5 rehearsal] and threatened that he would not perform [the next day] if he hit him again, and admitted Joe's deep voice saying "What the fuck did you just say?" And he said that he would throw his shoe at him and run like hell

I WAS LIKE OH SNAP! I remember him talking about those sort of things on that 2003 'Living With Michael Jackson' interview.

He also spoke about how fake Motown was, and that they were made to lie and how they marketed things. He is speaking to Glenda's husband at this point. He was like (paraphrasing) "They made us look like one whole happy family. And Joseph was you know,'Papa Joe'. Oh they're so tight knit...tight knit my ass!"



And of course, theres another clip where he's talking to Glenda's daughter about kid shit.

Glenda's husband starts talking about how beautiful Janet is and how wonderful of a personality (and even asks for her number. Michael doesn't say anything or make any sort of response, so think he got the memo). Mike agrees and then adds, Janet is a natural beauty too, not like LaToya she wears weaves and stuff (I KIDD YOU NOT THATS WHAT HE SAID).

He talks about Glenda about Tatum, and how he didn't regret having sex with her (she asked) because he knew she was messing around, that he knew for a FACT. Glenda asked how long it took him to get over Diana and he said years. And that they were together but it was all his mind He talks about Joe cheating on Katie with the groupies on J5 tour, and how it disgusted him when they'd come back home and would greet mother (he always refers to her as 'mother', its so sweet) like nothing. And when Glenda asks about Jermaine he says "OH GOD..." Damn. Jermaine is a slutty motherfucker. He also told this story about Jackie where one girl went to follow him in his room, and Michael would tell them/her NOT to go in there, but she went anyway. Later when he found out she didn't listen, he said he had asked why did you go when I told you not to? He asked did he hurt her, and she said no but that he had told her he never wanted to see her again.

Shit, ever since I listened to that I can't look at Jackie the same way again.
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I have a big mouth.

By the way, the password is 'Mike'.

floetcist said:

Yo, Flo, you got a different link, the link I click told me to log in or some shit. I wanna hear Mike cussing.

^ Understatement

Why doesn't the link work? Maybe you have to register...? Yeah, thats probably it.

Everything he says is so cute. lol I can't help but smile. Like they were talking about something (can't remember) he says something like 'get it togetha, or leave it alone' (referring to The Jacksons song) and Glenda was like ??? and that she doesn't remember that song. And hes like nevermind. LOL.

And he says '..girl,' a lot. And he doesn't even say it in a fruity way, he just says it like a word in a dull way, which sounds funny. That reminds me of an 1995 interview where he said on HIStory, he said he worked with Notorious "Big" and not "B.I.G."

Anyway.

He was talking about Diana, and he said something like "But ya..but girl, girlfriend had my nose wide open..okay, you could drive a truck through my nose.." And Glenda (she's white by the way) is like "How did they come up with that. I am just wondering who thought of it?" And Michael says "its a black thing," and shes just like oh... .

He also talks about wanting a real relationship, and that all his brothers have had and talked about how lonely he is

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^ Understatement

Why doesn't the link work? Maybe you have to register...? Yeah, thats probably it.

Everything he says is so cute. lol I can't help but smile. Like they were talking about something (can't remember) he says something like 'get it togetha, or leave it alone' (referring to The Jacksons song) and Glenda was like ??? and that she doesn't remember that song. And hes like nevermind. LOL.

And he says '..girl,' a lot. And he doesn't even say it in a fruity way, he just says it like a word in a dull way, which sounds funny. That reminds me of an 1995 interview where he said on HIStory, he said he worked with Notorious "Big" and not "B.I.G."

Anyway.

He was talking about Diana, and he said something like "But ya..but girl, girlfriend had my nose wide open..okay, you could drive a truck through my nose.." And Glenda (she's white by the way) is like "How did they come up with that. I am just wondering who thought of it?" And Michael says "its a black thing," and shes just like "oh..". I think she asked again, and he's like 'its a black thing' I haven't listened to this in awhile, but if memory serves me right...

He also talks about wanting a real relationship, and that all his brothers have had and talked about how lonely he is

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