qwertyuiop said:

Yep. I agree. I Cannot wait. I actually went to Borders today to see if they carried the Vogue Italy , and they did not. Might have to order online. Mike is commin' back you guys!!!!! woohoo!!!!! Cannot wait!

DarlingDiana said:

So why not discuss it THERE?

anticipated responses: "You don't have to click it... I can post what I want... you're reading it..." BLAH BLAH BLAH - bottom line, there's too much about this mf in this forum on a regular. Give it a fucking rest

CalhounSq said:

amen.

*yawn* ^^ So ask the mods to close down the Music: Non-Prince forum and we'll stop talking about other artists.

I like that 1st Japan pic.

whatsgoingon said:

Same here.

Only that I will buy the magazine anyway cause I'm too much of a Stan not to.

whatsgoingon said:

Agree.

And you took out the words from my mouth [literally] when you said MJ doesn't look like MJ. That is exactly what I was going to say. Damn bitch beat me to it...lol

Michael still has a lot of fans who still think he looks good I call them delusional. No, I don't care about 'opinions' or 'subjective'. Their opinions are wrong. HE LOOKS LIKE V FOR VENDETTA NOW. He isn't good looking, hot, sexy or any sort of attractive anymore. Every time I see new photos of him, I cringe. While many fans make comments on how 'hot' he looks

(sigh)


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I'm a huge MJ fan and don't consider myself "delusional"...

Yeah, the dudes had surgery... but he also suffers from a skin disease and reportedly lupus - both of which can drastically alter your appearance.

So I find it quite disgusting watching people analyse and pick faults with his appearance when they probably don't know the half of it.

How about putting a picture up of your mug for us all to critique???

No???

I thought not.

MJ looks so much better when he wears his hair short. I wish he just sported the pony tail look with some nice shades on with a leather jacket. Get some style going on here.

I dont like the long straight hair

Imelda said:

No...not entirely true
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CalhounSq said:

Hang on a mo, which part of the forum am I in because I'm sure this section is "None Prince"?

Speedy72 said:

floetcist said:

Well Michael has his days when he actually looks okay like last year at the WMA's and at James Brown funeral, I thought he looked nice then but seeing that pic u posted does make me a little sad when I look at MJ today. I could never really think of him as being ugly 'cause I just love him too much, but I'd be lying if I said that I don't cringe sometimes when I see pics of him but no matter what I'll always think of MJ like this:







That's how I like to think of him, It's unfortunate that his appearence has changed as much as it has. I just really think what has happened with him is just sad, I can't think of any other word for it. It's almost as if that MJ and the one today are two different people .


Like I said before though, I'm a big fan and I have seen pics from last year where he didn't look too bad, but it's hard to keep acting like he looks good most of the time becuse he really doesn't...And I also don't think that MJ should be doing anything to highlight his appearence like this Italian Vogue magazine cover. I know I'll end up buying it no matter what but I don't really see him being on this cover as a good thing, he'll just get ridiculed for his appearence as always. Michael needs to just stick to working on his music.
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As long as the voice is the same and the music is hot,that's all i care about.

Im not going to not buy a album just because of the looks

I don't buy music because of looks either, but I'm not going to be like some delusional MJ fans on some of his fan sites and say that the Michael of today looks "hot or sexy" because he doesn't.

I can understand that

Hey, i wish he still looked like the MJ on the cover of the 1981 Triumph album. That's my favorite all time MJ look. He was so GQ smooth back then.

But he doesnt look like that anymore

floetcist said:

But some fans think he looks better as a middle-age, white woman with too much botox On one of the fan forums one crazy-ass fan who was obviously white, said Michael looked intimidating with his afro and dark skin and he/she was glad he turned white. Yep, those are the type of fans that Michael attracts nowadays.

qwertyuiop said:

whatsgoingon said:

don't forget there is now an entire generation of people that have only know Michael as a white woman.

ehuffnsd said:

Yup. Include me as one of them.

Rodya24 said:

i'm a second nose job person.

ehuffnsd said:

You know how people call Madonna the Queen of Reinventing Herself? I think that title should go to Michael Jackson as well. With EVERY album he has managed to reinvent himself.

MattyJam said:

Yes I know he has vitiligo. But you're lying to yourself if thats a 'drastic change' by itself. Had he left his features alone, he'd look like an albino Off the Wall/Thriller Michael. And he'd still be cute. Hacking his nose to pieces, getting the unnecessary cleft in the chin, wearing lacefront weaves (although they are nicer than Beyonce's) cheekbones looking all sorts of hideous...no, its not just hairstyles and complexion that makes him look drastically different. ITs a lot more than that.

If there was someone in this world who didn't know who Michael Jackson was (impossible, but lets pretend) show them a picture of him in the 80s and one from today. You think they would know it was the same person?

whatsgoingon said:

Good lord. Don't get me fucking started on his White closet racist Lisa Marie Presley loving Grace Rwaramba loathing (his black nanny who they think is evil and drugging him) "fans". I want to beat the shit out of them. All of them. They better be glad they don't know me. I'm not even playing. I'm kind of skinny and I've never been in a fight before, but best believe I'd cut a bitch down like Xena.
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[Edited 9/20/07 21:52pm]

Well, when I was born Michael was looking Puerto Rican (1988) but still obviously visually a black man, just with a jheri curl mullet. Think Debarge. I remember watching all of his videos, so I knew how he looked back dating from the J5 days.

Oh yeah, those white MJ fans hate us "ethnocentric" black fans. Have you ever been to MJNO? They close every thread. Can you tell I feel like beating some bitches up? Cause I do

floetcist said:

It is his fucking face. He has the right to mutilate it. Sure he looks fucking awful; but in the end it is his face. Talking about "what if" is not going to change the unchangeable. Move on.

I should add: I am not white so your potential argument that I am a racist does not work.
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Rodya24 said:

Did I ever say that YOU were White?

And I don't give a damn if its his face. People who are depressed cut themselves. Does that make it okay, its their body? No. Those plastic surgeons are immortal. Someone should of said no, but money talks. Thats what happens when you're around yes men around you for the majority of your career. No one told him no. I think he finally snapped out of it now, seeing his new people around him.

I know he's proud to be black, but the general public isn't exposed to all the charity work he does in Africa, or anything related to black people. No I'm not expecting for him to be militant Malcolm X, but goddamn Michael. Its bad enough people think you're a sell out - SPEAK OUT FOR YOURSELF. If he wants to stay reclusive and not say a damn thing about his vitiligo, more power to him. But don't fucking complain about tabloids and the media for making up lies. Of course there is speculation and made up stories and what not; although thats what they normally do, it wouldn't be so much of a problem if you fucking said something. Damnit Michael did all that soul glo get into your brain?????

1993 is a little too late to talk about your skin now isn't it? [Oprah Winfrey]. And even then, it was far too brief and he didn't even say the name of his disorder. If I was him I'd fucking roll up my sleeves, roll up my slacks and glittery socks and say HERE. YOU SEE THIS SHIT? VITILIGO. GET A GOOD LOOK AT IT. NOW LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE YOU MARK ASS BITCHES!

I hope for dear life he hasn't watched that Katt Williams stand up

ehuffnsd said:

By the time I got to know about Michael Jackson, it was the "Bad" era. I vaguely remembered the "second nose job period" because I was a baby at the time of "Michaelmania" (meaning the "Victory Tour" post-Grammys era of Michaelmania). And I erroneously thought he was Smokey Robinson's son because Smokey had a Jheri Curl and had light skin to the same texture as Mike's but then I saw images of him in the past and thought "something doesn't add up". That was before I heard about him having vitiligo and everything. I thought he looked goofy even then.

Looking at Michael now compared to how he looked back then IS sad but it don't take away from his music and talent.

But it is sad. Maybe it does take three hours to get everything together and not just for the hair. He CAN look decent but he'll never be the "hot stuff" he was back in the late-'70s-early-'80s.

morningsong said:

What a tactful way of putting it.

floetcist said:

I don't think he did, if so he'd probably be bawling his eyes out or some shit. It shouldn't bother him that much if he's proud to be a black man. But you see so many people criticize him for only acknowledging his "heritage" so to speak when he gets into legal troubles, as Katt stated: "he spent his whole life trying to be a white woman but when trouble comes, he brings in the Black Muslims, how you gon' be a Muslim when you got a white woman/pork face? How you gonna be a Muslim when half your face is pork?" However, I don't think no one knows that he does care about his heritage. Maybe with his kids it's a question mark, I don't really wanna get into that because that is such a touchy subject. But other than that, Michael still embraces his culture to a fault. I think the fact that he looks abstractly different from his non-surgerical image is how so many of us think the way Katt does. I actually don't, but I can understand people's opinions...unlike some people.

But anyway, back to the topic at hand, I just wonder what the cover is gonna look like with him on it and if there is an interview on there, what will he talk about?

By the way I registered to MJNO but I'll probably be a lurker. Flo, I saw one thread where some crazy ass fan said Michael looked sexy now than he EVER did. Talk about delusions.

Lammastide said:

I hope to God he don't go back to what he tried to pull during the "Invincible" period. Brother looked like Phil Spector on trial now!