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Thread started 09/17/07 4:00pm

dancerella

Could Kanye and Fiddy really be geniuses?

what they have started with this whole battle about whose album out doing the others is a briliant marketing move. the fact that fiddy said he would retire if kanye sold more records than him is great for the both of them whatever the outcome. fiddy may look stupid if he loses but so what? he would have still sold more records had he not said a word. the question is did he dig his own grave and will he live up to what he promised?
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Reply #1 posted 09/17/07 4:01pm

MikeMatronik

Hell no...

mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad
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Reply #2 posted 09/17/07 4:07pm

dancerella

MikeMatronik said:

Hell no...

mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad



oops sorry i didn't mean to piss you off...
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Reply #3 posted 09/17/07 4:15pm

missfee

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Kanye is, definitely not Fiddy.
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Reply #4 posted 09/17/07 4:21pm

MikeMatronik

How can he be a genius, if he samples everything he does?
Give me a studio and some old Stax/Motown records and even I can make a kick-ass hip-hop album.
[Edited 9/17/07 16:22pm]
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Reply #5 posted 09/17/07 4:21pm

MikeMatronik

dancerella said:

MikeMatronik said:

Hell no...

mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad



oops sorry i didn't mean to piss you off...


no problem...
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Reply #6 posted 09/17/07 4:22pm

missfee

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MikeMatronik said:

How can he be a genius, if he samples everything he does?

he doesn't sample everything. if you don't think either is a genius, one out of the two or both, then why are you even on this thread?
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Reply #7 posted 09/17/07 4:23pm

MikeMatronik

missfee said:

MikeMatronik said:

How can he be a genius, if he samples everything he does?

he doesn't sample everything. if you don't think either is a genius, one out of the two or both, then why are you even on this thread?


Because I want to post. Isn't your country, the place of so-called "freedom of speech"?
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Reply #8 posted 09/17/07 4:24pm

Rodya24

MikeMatronik said:

missfee said:


he doesn't sample everything. if you don't think either is a genius, one out of the two or both, then why are you even on this thread?


Because I want to post. Isn't your country, the place of so-called "freedom of speech"?


The US never had freedom of speech. The witch hunt against Communists in the '50s, anyone?
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Reply #9 posted 09/17/07 4:25pm

missfee

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MikeMatronik said:

missfee said:


he doesn't sample everything. if you don't think either is a genius, one out of the two or both, then why are you even on this thread?


Because I want to post. Isn't your country, the place of so-called "freedom of speech"?

well sounds to me you are complaining just to hear yourself complain.

but to really answer your question, the man is genius because people like you are constantly talking about him. Everybody knows, if you want to get on top, just make some noise to get noticed...and guess what, you notice him which gives him more publicity.

Me however, i'm a fan, so i'll continue to support him as long as he puts out decent, artistic albums.
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Reply #10 posted 09/17/07 4:26pm

Rodya24

missfee said:

MikeMatronik said:



Because I want to post. Isn't your country, the place of so-called "freedom of speech"?

well sounds to me you are complaining just to hear yourself complain.

but to really answer your question, the man is genius because people like you are constantly talking about him. Everybody knows, if you want to get on top, just make some noise to get noticed...and guess what, you notice him which gives him more publicity.

Me however, i'm a fan, so i'll continue to support him as long as he puts out decent, artistic albums.



By that logic, I suppose you regard Madonna to be a genius as well.
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Reply #11 posted 09/17/07 4:27pm

missfee

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Rodya24 said:

MikeMatronik said:



Because I want to post. Isn't your country, the place of so-called "freedom of speech"?


The US never had freedom of speech. The witch hunt against Communists in the '50s, anyone?

I surely do!!!! You talking about the Blacklist right? Also what about those witch hunt trials in the 1600's??? disbelief Controversy
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Reply #12 posted 09/17/07 4:27pm

missfee

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Rodya24 said:

missfee said:


well sounds to me you are complaining just to hear yourself complain.

but to really answer your question, the man is genius because people like you are constantly talking about him. Everybody knows, if you want to get on top, just make some noise to get noticed...and guess what, you notice him which gives him more publicity.

Me however, i'm a fan, so i'll continue to support him as long as he puts out decent, artistic albums.



By that logic, I suppose you regard Madonna to be a genius as well.

Well i'm not a big Madonna fan, although I do admire her drive. That woman knows how to sell records, I mean her worst fan has to at least give her that.
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Reply #13 posted 09/17/07 4:28pm

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Reply #14 posted 09/17/07 4:30pm

Dewrede

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what's genius about talking over a sampled beat ? barf
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Reply #15 posted 09/17/07 4:30pm

Rodya24

missfee said:

Rodya24 said:




By that logic, I suppose you regard Madonna to be a genius as well.

Well i'm not a big Madonna fan, although I do admire her drive. That woman knows how to sell records, I mean her worst fan has to at least give her that.



While I dislike both West and 50 Cent, I have to give them credit for this stunt. The result: lots and lots of albums sold.
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Reply #16 posted 09/17/07 4:39pm

MikeMatronik

So to be a Genius is to sell millions...NICE! So Julio Iglesias is bloody Genius.
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Reply #17 posted 09/17/07 4:46pm

missfee

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Dewrede said:

what's genius about talking over a sampled beat ? barf

he doesn't just talk.
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Reply #18 posted 09/17/07 4:47pm

missfee

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MikeMatronik said:

So to be a Genius is to sell millions...NICE! So Julio Iglesias is bloody Genius.

maybe...
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Reply #19 posted 09/17/07 4:51pm

Dewrede

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missfee said:

Dewrede said:

what's genius about talking over a sampled beat ? barf

he doesn't just talk.


oh yeah , he steals other people's music too razz
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Reply #20 posted 09/17/07 4:53pm

missfee

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Dewrede said:

missfee said:


he doesn't just talk.


oh yeah , he steals other people's music too razz

no he doesn't do that either. biggrin
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Reply #21 posted 09/17/07 4:54pm

Najee

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what's genius about talking over a sampled beat ? barf


Getting thousands of people to listen to this crap and actually thinking that selling units equals "genius."
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Reply #22 posted 09/17/07 5:03pm

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The day they become geniuses will be the same day I will become pregnant.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #23 posted 09/17/07 5:05pm

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Genius? yet another word that is used WAY too quick and on to many people. The term Genius is about as overused as the word COMEBACK and ARTIST.

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Reply #24 posted 09/17/07 5:08pm

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dancerella said:

what they have started with this whole battle about whose album out doing the others is a briliant marketing move. the fact that fiddy said he would retire if kanye sold more records than him is great for the both of them whatever the outcome. fiddy may look stupid if he loses but so what? he would have still sold more records had he not said a word. the question is did he dig his own grave and will he live up to what he promised?

.50 admitted that this was all a marketing ploy when he did an interview on Jim Rome last week.
He said although Kanye's sales were better than his first week sales, that in the long run he'd beat him worldwide.


Whoopee. confused


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Reply #25 posted 09/17/07 5:16pm

Graycap23

dancerella said:

what they have started with this whole battle about whose album out doing the others is a briliant marketing move. the fact that fiddy said he would retire if kanye sold more records than him is great for the both of them whatever the outcome. fiddy may look stupid if he loses but so what? he would have still sold more records had he not said a word. the question is did he dig his own grave and will he live up to what he promised?

Both of these cd's stink.
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Reply #26 posted 09/17/07 5:27pm

rebelsoldier

They are geniuses at being con men. How else can you explain their album sales?
Compared to the fools buying their music they are geniuses.
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Reply #27 posted 09/17/07 6:06pm

weepingwall

i give it another year until another rapper with a bigger ego than kanye west comes along, and we all forget about kanye. the same goes with curtis.
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Reply #28 posted 09/17/07 11:25pm

bboy87

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Dancerella,

you knew better to ask THIS question on prince.org lol
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #29 posted 09/17/07 11:29pm

Xavier23

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"could kanye and fiddy both be geniuses?"
hell motherfucking no no cents?? a genius??? plaese ... as for Kanye west he needs to chill the fuck out. its amazing to me how words like genius get thrown and around on people like Kanye West and Dr. Dre who really have not done anything
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