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MTV EXTENDS OLIVE BRANCH TO KANYE

You all saw Kanye flip out and heard his side of the story and now MTV released a statment. They didn’t address any of the claims that Kanye told various media outlets (probably because he was speaking the truth) but instead they complimented him and hoped that they could work together again. Read on:

“MTV has a long and collaborative relationship with Kanye and we hope and look forward to continuing that meaningful relationship,” MTV’s statement said Tuesday.

“Kanye West is a visionary performer and he didn’t let his fans down at this year’s VMA’s,” the statement said. “From his incredible renditions of “Stronger” and “The Good Life,” to the spectacular aerial shots from his multi-level suite which made for one of the grandest visuals of the night, the audience feedback on MTV.com has been overwhelming. In fact, he is the only artist to have three performances ranked in the top 15 on MTV.com.” [SOURCE]
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Reply #1 posted 09/12/07 9:51am

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I wish Kanye would take some ettiqute classes. He usually speaks the truth (I totally agree with him about Britney and MTV), but he needs to learn how to say it. sad
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Reply #2 posted 09/12/07 10:00am

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banks said:

You all saw Kanye flip out and heard his side of the story and now MTV released a statment. They didn’t address any of the claims that Kanye told various media outlets (probably because he was speaking the truth) but instead they complimented him and hoped that they could work together again. Read on:

“MTV has a long and collaborative relationship with Kanye and we hope and look forward to continuing that meaningful relationship,” MTV’s statement said Tuesday.

“Kanye West is a visionary performer and he didn’t let his fans down at this year’s VMA’s,” the statement said. “From his incredible renditions of “Stronger” and “The Good Life,” to the spectacular aerial shots from his multi-level suite which made for one of the grandest visuals of the night, the audience feedback on MTV.com has been overwhelming. In fact, he is the only artist to have three performances ranked in the top 15 on MTV.com.” [SOURCE]


But still like i said neither Kanye nor Justin would make any sacrifice in their own career to really make their words have meaing. The only reason Kanye aligned with Britney spears in his exploitation talk is because Britney's awful performance stole all the headlines and no one was talking about him.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #3 posted 09/12/07 10:48am

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Amen, Last December.

ON a side note.

I honestly wish MTV would be wiped off the planet just for even responding to this egomaniac's rants.

He is bearable at best. I truly can not wait for the day when modern Hip hop is buried. Not only is most of it meaningless and formula driven, but the so called musicians' personalities are even worse than their songs.

F Kanye. I wish Ice Cube from 91' would come out of hiding and show him how samples can be used cleaverly and words can be used to make people think.
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Reply #4 posted 09/12/07 10:56am

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banks said:

You all saw Kanye flip out and heard his side of the story and now MTV released a statment. They didn’t address any of the claims that Kanye told various media outlets (probably because he was speaking the truth) but instead they complimented him and hoped that they could work together again. Read on:

“MTV has a long and collaborative relationship with Kanye and we hope and look forward to continuing that meaningful relationship,” MTV’s statement said Tuesday.

“Kanye West is a visionary performer and he didn’t let his fans down at this year’s VMA’s,” the statement said. “From his incredible renditions of “Stronger” and “The Good Life,” to the spectacular aerial shots from his multi-level suite which made for one of the grandest visuals of the night, the audience feedback on MTV.com has been overwhelming. In fact, he is the only artist to have three performances ranked in the top 15 on MTV.com.” [SOURCE]


Uh, w! Talk about spin control! This is basically TV defending their shitty "suite" concept. And Kanye didn't say anything about letting down his fans. Kanye's should keep doing the smart and right thing. Cut them off! They just don't get it! MTV has lost it's damn mind! If MTV was a person, it would have to go to rehab like Britney. The shit they are saying is crazy than some woman shaving her head!
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Reply #5 posted 09/12/07 10:58am

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aalloca said:

Amen, Last December.

ON a side note.

I honestly wish MTV would be wiped off the planet just for even responding to this egomaniac's rants.

He is bearable at best. I truly can not wait for the day when modern Hip hop is buried. Not only is most of it meaningless and formula driven, but the so called musicians' personalities are even worse than their songs.

F Kanye. I wish Ice Cube from 91' would come out of hiding and show him how samples can be used cleaverly and words can be used to make people think.


Sadly, that Ice Cub died years ago....but Ice Cube, the actor can currently be found shooting his last in the trilogy of "Are We There Yet" films....It's titled "Are We Done With This Concept Yet?"
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Reply #6 posted 09/12/07 11:47am

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aalloca said:

Amen, Last December.

ON a side note.

I honestly wish MTV would be wiped off the planet just for even responding to this egomaniac's rants.

He is bearable at best. I truly can not wait for the day when modern Hip hop is buried. Not only is most of it meaningless and formula driven, but the so called musicians' personalities are even worse than their songs.

F Kanye. I wish Ice Cube from 91' would come out of hiding and show him how samples can be used cleaverly and words can be used to make people think.


Sadly, that Ice Cub died years ago....but Ice Cube, the actor can currently be found shooting his last in the trilogy of "Are We There Yet" films....It's titled "Are We Done With This Concept Yet?"


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Reply #7 posted 09/12/07 11:52am

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that crap was all staged to gather more publicity for his record.

and a "long and collaborative relationship" has been had by kanye and mtv? come again? kanye hasn't been in the limelight long enough to have enjoyed a "long and collaborative" relationship with mtv. maybe he's enjoyed a long and collaborative relationship with other artists who have been on mtv, but himself personlly.
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Reply #8 posted 09/12/07 3:39pm

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NOOOOO!!!!!

DON'T DO IT KANYE!!!!!

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Reply #9 posted 09/12/07 4:13pm

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sassybritches said:

that crap was all staged to gather more publicity for his record.

and a "long and collaborative relationship" has been had by kanye and mtv? come again? kanye hasn't been in the limelight long enough to have enjoyed a "long and collaborative" relationship with mtv. maybe he's enjoyed a long and collaborative relationship with other artists who have been on mtv, but himself personlly.


Pretty much. Watch, he and MTV are gonna have a public sit-together and Kanye would say he "stepped outta line". rolleyes Watch.
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Reply #10 posted 09/12/07 5:40pm

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Timmy84 said:

sassybritches said:

that crap was all staged to gather more publicity for his record.

and a "long and collaborative relationship" has been had by kanye and mtv? come again? kanye hasn't been in the limelight long enough to have enjoyed a "long and collaborative" relationship with mtv. maybe he's enjoyed a long and collaborative relationship with other artists who have been on mtv, but himself personlly.


Pretty much. Watch, he and MTV are gonna have a public sit-together and Kanye would say he "stepped outta line". rolleyes Watch.


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Reply #11 posted 09/12/07 6:00pm

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I wish Kayne West would just freakin' disappear and never come back. Jeez, can't David Copperfield make that happen?
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Reply #12 posted 09/12/07 6:29pm

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I WISH THEY ISSUED A STATMENT ABOUT PLAYING MORE VIDEOS....
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Reply #13 posted 09/12/07 6:40pm

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sassybritches said:

that crap was all staged to gather more publicity for his record.

and a "long and collaborative relationship" has been had by kanye and mtv? come again? kanye hasn't been in the limelight long enough to have enjoyed a "long and collaborative" relationship with mtv. maybe he's enjoyed a long and collaborative relationship with other artists who have been on mtv, but himself personlly.

That's what I dislike the most with Kanye. EVERYTHING he does has an ulterior motive behind it. While I agree with what he said with Britney he did it cause there's an album that just came out yesterday. I dare take it back to 2005 when he said that Bush hates all Black people on that Katrina telethon. True or not, I firmly believe he said all that cause Late Registration had just dropped and I believe album sales stayed high if they didn't go higher after he said that. Kayne isn't a genius but he knows how to use the media.

Oh and 3 years in the spotlight does not make for a long and collaborative relationship. MTV and Kanye both need to go sit down somewhere.
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Reply #14 posted 09/12/07 9:16pm

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paisleypark4 said:

I WISH THEY ISSUED A STATMENT ABOUT PLAYING MORE VIDEOS....


They did issues a statement.

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Reply #15 posted 09/12/07 9:52pm

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It's sad when we live in an era that celebrates style over substance to such a degree we get a manufactured hissy fit that will be crammed down our throats until it chokes us.
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Reply #16 posted 09/13/07 7:17am

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lastdecember said:

banks said:

You all saw Kanye flip out and heard his side of the story and now MTV released a statment. They didn’t address any of the claims that Kanye told various media outlets (probably because he was speaking the truth) but instead they complimented him and hoped that they could work together again. Read on:

“MTV has a long and collaborative relationship with Kanye and we hope and look forward to continuing that meaningful relationship,” MTV’s statement said Tuesday.

“Kanye West is a visionary performer and he didn’t let his fans down at this year’s VMA’s,” the statement said. “From his incredible renditions of “Stronger” and “The Good Life,” to the spectacular aerial shots from his multi-level suite which made for one of the grandest visuals of the night, the audience feedback on MTV.com has been overwhelming. In fact, he is the only artist to have three performances ranked in the top 15 on MTV.com.” [SOURCE]


But still like i said neither Kanye nor Justin would make any sacrifice in their own career to really make their words have meaing. The only reason Kanye aligned with Britney spears in his exploitation talk is because Britney's awful performance stole all the headlines and no one was talking about him.


That's right.
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Reply #17 posted 09/13/07 7:32am

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Kanye West is a self righteous douchebag.
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Reply #18 posted 09/13/07 8:24am

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Believe it or not i saw a clip of 50 cent backstage at the BET show and he actually made "sense". He was talking about how Kanye said he should have opened the show because he had an album coming out and Britney was finished and shouldnt have. 50 Cent said, "well, Kanye forgets that she has sold 50 million albums and that also matters when picking a show opener".

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #19 posted 09/13/07 8:52am

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lastdecember said:

Believe it or not i saw a clip of 50 cent backstage at the BET show and he actually made "sense". He was talking about how Kanye said he should have opened the show because he had an album coming out and Britney was finished and shouldnt have. 50 Cent said, "well, Kanye forgets that she has sold 50 million albums and that also matters when picking a show opener".


50 was on Howard Stern today and while he said some crazy stuff, he also said things that were smart....He's not a dumb guy and not as defensive/hot headed as Kanye.
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Reply #20 posted 09/13/07 11:21am

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lastdecember said:


But still like i said neither Kanye nor Justin would make any sacrifice in their own career to really make their words have meaning.



WRONG. I guess you forgot about this:

That was sacrificial. What artist wants the government pissed at them?
No one else did it. Not, Prince, MJ, not Madonna or any of the cute little girl singers everyone discusses on here daily. Kanye did and no one can take that from him.
Justin made a comment that if Prince had made, the org would be singing his praises for over the next 6 months. I'll give that one comment to Justin. He came on the VMAs and addressed Mtv. He's still a bitch to me but I'll give him this one.
Kanye was right. Britney wasn't ready. He's been touring. They should have done what was best for the show instead of what makes good television.

[Edited 9/13/07 11:33am]
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lastdecember said:


But still like i said neither Kanye nor Justin would make any sacrifice in their own career to really make their words have meaning.



WRONG. I guess you forgot about this:

That was sacrificial. What artist wants the government pissed at them?
No one else did it. Not, Prince, MJ, not Madonna or any of the cute little girl singers everyone discusses on here daily. Kanye did and no one can take that from him.
Justin made a comment that if Prince had made, the org would be singing his praises for over the next 6 months. I'll give that one comment to Justin. He came on the VMAs and addressed Mtv. He's still a bitch to me but I'll give him this one.
Kanye was right. Britney wasn't ready. He's been touring. They should have done what was best for the show instead of what makes good television.

[Edited 9/13/07 11:33am]


First of all it wasnt a BOLD statement being made, Whoopi Goldberg and Bill Maher made 9/11 statements and lost their shows back in 2001, that was BOLD. Kanye made a statement, give it, a "brave" one, but he did it about a situation that no one was debating. No one in the world debated that Katrina was a "joke" of a response, but also its easy for Kanye to make a statement like this from a studio with Mike Meyers, i dont remember seeing him digging through water to help people like i saw Branford Marsalis,Harry Connick and Sean Penn, but maybe thats because he didnt have "THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD ON HIM". Point is if you think Kanye is BOLD than youre missing it big time. How come no one had the Dixie Chicks back when they said what they said? Well they know if they did their album sales and movie sales would be hurt. The thing is Kanye choose a no lose situation for himself, he didnt challenge the war right after 9/11 like others did, so lets not give him too much credit. He still works for a company that has MTV on the payroll, so if he wants respect for being a rebel, go after your label too who work hand in hand with MTV BET and VH1. As for Justin's comment, sorry i cant give him credit for anything because Chris Rock said that years ago when he was on MTV hosting, and by the way calling out Justin for being a wanna be "black" guy when it mattered. So Justin once again was taking from something that wasnt his to begin with, not impressed. To impress i need to see action and sacrifice, not words and Hype.
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Reply #23 posted 09/13/07 1:39pm

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lastdecember said:


But still like i said neither Kanye nor Justin would make any sacrifice in their own career to really make their words have meaning.



WRONG. I guess you forgot about this:

That was sacrificial. What artist wants the government pissed at them?
No one else did it. Not, Prince, MJ, not Madonna or any of the cute little girl singers everyone discusses on here daily. Kanye did and no one can take that from him.
Justin made a comment that if Prince had made, the org would be singing his praises for over the next 6 months. I'll give that one comment to Justin. He came on the VMAs and addressed Mtv. He's still a bitch to me but I'll give him this one.
Kanye was right. Britney wasn't ready. He's been touring. They should have done what was best for the show instead of what makes good television.

[Edited 9/13/07 11:33am]

puh-lease.

that wasn't a sacrificial comment. are you kidding?!? it got him tons of press, tons of respect from liberals, pissed off the right people, and sold records.

sacrifice? talk to the dixie chicks about sacrifice.
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sassybritches said:

BlaqueKnight said:




WRONG. I guess you forgot about this:

That was sacrificial. What artist wants the government pissed at them?
No one else did it. Not, Prince, MJ, not Madonna or any of the cute little girl singers everyone discusses on here daily. Kanye did and no one can take that from him.
Justin made a comment that if Prince had made, the org would be singing his praises for over the next 6 months. I'll give that one comment to Justin. He came on the VMAs and addressed Mtv. He's still a bitch to me but I'll give him this one.
Kanye was right. Britney wasn't ready. He's been touring. They should have done what was best for the show instead of what makes good television.

[Edited 9/13/07 11:33am]

puh-lease.

that wasn't a sacrificial comment. are you kidding?!? it got him tons of press, tons of respect from liberals, pissed off the right people, and sold records.

sacrifice? talk to the dixie chicks about sacrifice.



He had no way of knowing that the reaction would have been favorable, just like the Dixie Chicks had no idea of what was going to happen to them because of what Natalie said
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Reply #25 posted 09/13/07 1:50pm

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banks said:

sassybritches said:


puh-lease.

that wasn't a sacrificial comment. are you kidding?!? it got him tons of press, tons of respect from liberals, pissed off the right people, and sold records.

sacrifice? talk to the dixie chicks about sacrifice.



He had no way of knowing that the reaction would have been favorable, just like the Dixie Chicks had no idea of what was going to happen to them because of what Natalie said

come on, it wasn't as though kanye's comment hadn't been made by others nor was it exactly a shocking or false allegation. it was a pretty safe comment to make, people just didn't expect it at that time and place.
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sassybritches said:

banks said:




He had no way of knowing that the reaction would have been favorable, just like the Dixie Chicks had no idea of what was going to happen to them because of what Natalie said

come on, it wasn't as though kanye's comment hadn't been made by others nor was it exactly a shocking or false allegation. it was a pretty safe comment to make, people just didn't expect it at that time and place.


Yeah that is what im saying. He made a statement about something that 99% of the USA knew and was saying, so though it was a great statement, it wasnt risky at all. Now the others i spoke of did make statements that were unpopular, and 2 of them were fired from their old jobs and the other (dixie chicks) were banned from radio/video channels, and their records were pulled in some stores. And the reason for that was they made a statement that wasnt "POPULAR" at the time, which is what i mean. People like the Dixie chicks,whoopi,Bill Maher,Chris Rock this are people that arent afraid to be unpopular, Kayne to me is very afraid of it.

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lastdecember said:

sassybritches said:


come on, it wasn't as though kanye's comment hadn't been made by others nor was it exactly a shocking or false allegation. it was a pretty safe comment to make, people just didn't expect it at that time and place.


Yeah that is what im saying. He made a statement about something that 99% of the USA knew and was saying, so though it was a great statement, it wasnt risky at all. Now the others i spoke of did make statements that were unpopular, and 2 of them were fired from their old jobs and the other (dixie chicks) were banned from radio/video channels, and their records were pulled in some stores. And the reason for that was they made a statement that wasnt "POPULAR" at the time, which is what i mean. People like the Dixie chicks,whoopi,Bill Maher,Chris Rock this are people that arent afraid to be unpopular, Kayne to me is very afraid of it.



I'm just saying that those things could have very well happened to him...
The dixie chick said she was asahamed to be from the same state as the president.. Kanye said President bush hates black people..Natalie was just speaking her mind.. Same as Kanye only thing is that the people who supported the Dixie Chicks lost their minds
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lastdecember said:



Yeah that is what im saying. He made a statement about something that 99% of the USA knew and was saying, so though it was a great statement, it wasnt risky at all. Now the others i spoke of did make statements that were unpopular, and 2 of them were fired from their old jobs and the other (dixie chicks) were banned from radio/video channels, and their records were pulled in some stores. And the reason for that was they made a statement that wasnt "POPULAR" at the time, which is what i mean. People like the Dixie chicks,whoopi,Bill Maher,Chris Rock this are people that arent afraid to be unpopular, Kayne to me is very afraid of it.



I'm just saying that those things could have very well happened to him...
The dixie chick said she was asahamed to be from the same state as the president.. Kanye said President bush hates black people..Natalie was just speaking her mind.. Same as Kanye only thing is that the people who supported the Dixie Chicks lost their minds


No i understand, im just saying that Kanye's statement was something that everyone already knew and that no one was debating, anyone with eyes knew that Katrina was a joke of a recovery and people like Sean Penn and Harry Connick were down there the day after and saying the same things, America wasnt against them. Everyone jumped on the Dixie Chicks and Whoopi and Bill because they were challenging a war that early on, because the world was in this "9/11 Sheep haze" was supporting and they called him out and the war which was not a popular thing back then.

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banks said:

lastdecember said:



Yeah that is what im saying. He made a statement about something that 99% of the USA knew and was saying, so though it was a great statement, it wasnt risky at all. Now the others i spoke of did make statements that were unpopular, and 2 of them were fired from their old jobs and the other (dixie chicks) were banned from radio/video channels, and their records were pulled in some stores. And the reason for that was they made a statement that wasnt "POPULAR" at the time, which is what i mean. People like the Dixie chicks,whoopi,Bill Maher,Chris Rock this are people that arent afraid to be unpopular, Kayne to me is very afraid of it.



I'm just saying that those things could have very well happened to him...
The dixie chick said she was asahamed to be from the same state as the president.. Kanye said President bush hates black people..Natalie was just speaking her mind.. Same as Kanye only thing is that the people who supported the Dixie Chicks lost their minds



Exactly. Its very rare that any artist, especially a black artist makes such a statement these days. The white, liberal media is working hard to paint the illusion that racism is dead and that we are all above it but nothing could be further from the truth. That statement was as bold and clear a statement as anything artists have said in the past 8 years or so. Say what you want but Kanye had the ears of the world and chose to speak against the government. You'd have to be a fool not to see that as bold. The government has been using the press for character assasinations of individuals for years now. It was a big ass risk to say something like that aloud. That set back our government and the press's efforts
Justin, on the other hand, went on a Viacom owned awards show and spoke against Viacom's programming. Much less of a big deal but I'll give it to him. If it had been Prince, there'd be a 25 page thread in the Music & More section singing his praises and all of you know it.
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