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Reply #120 posted 09/18/07 8:47pm

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jjhunsecker said:

The funny thing to me is, all these people on here are praising Little Richard as the real King (or Queen ??) of Rock and Roll, yet I bet if you cath him in concert nowadays, the ONLY Black faces you'd probably see in there would be his !

And don't get me wrong..Richard was magnificent, as well as Chuck Berry, and Fats Domino, along with many others. But Richard's career as a vital hit-maker only lasted about 5 years at most, whereas Elvis was a huge star for 20+ years (that may be due partly to how fickle audiences, particularly Black audiences, can be )


You just generalized millions of people right there. That statement alone invalidates your entire argument.

Give it up. Not EVERYONE has to worship and adore Elvis.

I think he was one of the brilliant entertainers of the twentieth century. Others disagree. I am certainly not going to waste my time trying to convert them when this is music we are talking about. Everyone is entitled to their opinions.
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Reply #121 posted 09/19/07 7:31am

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Rodya24 said:

jjhunsecker said:

The funny thing to me is, all these people on here are praising Little Richard as the real King (or Queen ??) of Rock and Roll, yet I bet if you cath him in concert nowadays, the ONLY Black faces you'd probably see in there would be his !

And don't get me wrong..Richard was magnificent, as well as Chuck Berry, and Fats Domino, along with many others. But Richard's career as a vital hit-maker only lasted about 5 years at most, whereas Elvis was a huge star for 20+ years (that may be due partly to how fickle audiences, particularly Black audiences, can be )


You just generalized millions of people right there. That statement alone invalidates your entire argument.

Give it up. Not EVERYONE has to worship and adore Elvis.

I think he was one of the brilliant entertainers of the twentieth century. Others disagree. I am certainly not going to waste my time trying to convert them when this is music we are talking about. Everyone is entitled to their opinions.


I don't think my statement was that much of a generalization at all. I've been to many concerts by older blues or R&B artists, and I'm often one of the few Black faces there. I was saying it's odd so many people here are praising Little Richard (and rightly so), and using him to bash Elvis, yet probably don't buy his CDs or attend his concerts. It does fascinate me how, in general, Black audiences will often disgard artists, whereas White audiences will hold on to their favorites, and they'll often add new ones over the years. For example, if you go see the Stones or The Who, there will be people there from 15 to 60. Elvis managed to hold onto his fan base, and add new ones, even after his death. Yes, great marketing was involved, but you couldn't sell a crappy product for 50 years if there wasn't something there people connected to ...
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Reply #122 posted 09/19/07 7:37am

Rodya24

jjhunsecker said:

Rodya24 said:



You just generalized millions of people right there. That statement alone invalidates your entire argument.

Give it up. Not EVERYONE has to worship and adore Elvis.

I think he was one of the brilliant entertainers of the twentieth century. Others disagree. I am certainly not going to waste my time trying to convert them when this is music we are talking about. Everyone is entitled to their opinions.


I don't think my statement was that much of a generalization at all. I've been to many concerts by older blues or R&B artists, and I'm often one of the few Black faces there. I was saying it's odd so many people here are praising Little Richard (and rightly so), and using him to bash Elvis, yet probably don't buy his CDs or attend his concerts. It does fascinate me how, in general, Black audiences will often disgard artists, whereas White audiences will hold on to their favorites, and they'll often add new ones over the years. For example, if you go see the Stones or The Who, there will be people there from 15 to 60. Elvis managed to hold onto his fan base, and add new ones, even after his death. Yes, great marketing was involved, but you couldn't sell a crappy product for 50 years if there wasn't something there people connected to ...




Please this thread has been beaten to death several times before. You should acknowledge the fact that some people could care less about Elvis and think that he is overrated. A number of people think David Bowie and Michael Jackson are overrated -- I am not going to go on a crusade to convince them otherwise.

This is music and entertainment. EVERYONE is entitled to have an opinion.

BTW, I think Elvis was a brilliant entertainer and an amazing singer.
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