JoeTyler said: bboy87 said: don't let this man hear you say that: he's already gearing up to bitchslap you [Edited 9/14/07 21:54pm] Why? Only because he arrived earlier than Elvis? No. Some think Little Richard is the greatest performer in rock and roll. Others think that about Elvis. Everyone is entitled to have their opinion in particular when it comes to music and performance. | |
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Of Elvis is overrated, he was white and he sounded a little black - so he was bound to be overrated. However, they ain't no one more overrated than Madonna. [Edited 9/15/07 8:29am] | |
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bboy87 said: JoeTyler said: Elvis is the best rock and roll singer & performer of all time.
End of the story. don't let this man hear you say that: he's already gearing up to bitchslap you [Edited 9/14/07 21:54pm] SHUT UP!!! Mashed potatoes, grra-vy and cranberry sauce - wooooo!!! | |
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There is a tendency for the very best to be overrated by some. But it's usually deserved. Elvis is overrated. Jimi is overrated. James is overrated. The Beatles are overrated. Stevie is overrated. Bowie is overrated. Prince is overrated. But I can't think of anyone more deserving of being overrated than any or all of those guys. "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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These threads crack me up...Bottom line is this...He commerically did it 1st!!
It doesn't matter if he stole a "black sound", he was a good looking man, with a good voice and doing something that Jim Nabors, Andy Williams or whatever was playing back in the mid 50's. The youth at that time caught on to it they liked it. period. Elvis should be remembered for that, his music crossed all barriers to pop, country and gosepel. Not many if any "pop stars" are doing that today.. That people is a talent..as "hip-hop" acts like Jay Z cross over to a rock side. Elvis was not a great song writer/producer, he was an entertainer..that's it, he did not share his opinion on any world events or wars, not like the artists today... | |
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Raze said: There is a tendency for the very best to be overrated by some. But it's usually deserved. Elvis is overrated. Jimi is overrated. James is overrated. The Beatles are overrated. Stevie is overrated. Bowie is overrated. Prince is overrated. But I can't think of anyone more deserving of being overrated than any or all of those guys.
Are you trying to tell me that Madonna is the very best, because she is more overrated than all those you've mention above put together. | |
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whatsgoingon said: Raze said: There is a tendency for the very best to be overrated by some. But it's usually deserved. Elvis is overrated. Jimi is overrated. James is overrated. The Beatles are overrated. Stevie is overrated. Bowie is overrated. Prince is overrated. But I can't think of anyone more deserving of being overrated than any or all of those guys.
Are you trying to tell me that Madonna is the very best, because she is more overrated than all those you've mention above put together. Madonna >>>> Prince, Michael Jackson, David Bowie, James Brown, Sammy Davis All of these no-talents fail when compared to the musical genius of Madonna. | |
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Elvis is UNDER rated . . . badly managed in life and in death. | |
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Rodya24 said: whatsgoingon said: Are you trying to tell me that Madonna is the very best, because she is more overrated than all those you've mention above put together. Madonna >>>> Prince, Michael Jackson, David Bowie, James Brown, Sammy Davis All of these no-talents fail when compared to the musical genius of Madonna. musical genius...i think not... marketing genius..absoul-fucking-outly!!!!! The thing about Madonna - she sings ok, acting is ok, songwriting is above average..dancing has slowed down (she is close to 50)but was above average.. thing she has best going for her..she is by far the greatest "business smart" woman in the industry. | |
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avasdad said: Rodya24 said: Madonna >>>> Prince, Michael Jackson, David Bowie, James Brown, Sammy Davis All of these no-talents fail when compared to the musical genius of Madonna. musical genius...i think not... marketing genius..absoul-fucking-outly!!!!! The thing about Madonna - she sings ok, acting is ok, songwriting is above average..dancing has slowed down (she is close to 50)but was above average.. thing she has best going for her..she is by far the greatest "business smart" woman in the industry. I was being facetious in calling Madonna a musical genius. As for her songwriting skills... With the exception of Lucky Star and a couple of other songs on her first album, I give credit to her collaborators. But she is a incredible business woman. | |
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whatsgoingon said: Raze said: There is a tendency for the very best to be overrated by some. But it's usually deserved. Elvis is overrated. Jimi is overrated. James is overrated. The Beatles are overrated. Stevie is overrated. Bowie is overrated. Prince is overrated. But I can't think of anyone more deserving of being overrated than any or all of those guys.
Are you trying to tell me that Madonna is the very best, because she is more overrated than all those you've mention above put together. I really don't get that Madonna is overrated. After all, there's barely a day that goes by that she isn't completely trashed on the internet and in the media "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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JoeTyler said: Elvis is the best rock and roll singer & performer of all time.
End of the story. awh come on man? were you not on another forum praising aerosmith(who are superb and steve tyler is a hella better singer than elvis, check out little richard steve tylers favorite singer, and youll hear how reall rock n roll should sound!!) "Im Too Funky To Sleep With Myself" | |
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avasdad said: These threads crack me up...Bottom line is this...He commerically did it 1st!!
It doesn't matter if he stole a "black sound", he was a good looking man, with a good voice and doing something that Jim Nabors, Andy Williams or whatever was playing back in the mid 50's. The youth at that time caught on to it they liked it. period. Elvis should be remembered for that, his music crossed all barriers to pop, country and gosepel. Not many if any "pop stars" are doing that today.. That people is a talent..as "hip-hop" acts like Jay Z cross over to a rock side. Elvis was not a great song writer/producer, he was an entertainer..that's it, he did not share his opinion on any world events or wars, not like the artists today... did i miss something? "Im Too Funky To Sleep With Myself" | |
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Rodya24 said: avasdad said: musical genius...i think not... marketing genius..absoul-fucking-outly!!!!! The thing about Madonna - she sings ok, acting is ok, songwriting is above average..dancing has slowed down (she is close to 50)but was above average.. thing she has best going for her..she is by far the greatest "business smart" woman in the industry. I was being facetious in calling Madonna a musical genius. As for her songwriting skills... With the exception of Lucky Star and a couple of other songs on her first album, I give credit to her collaborators. But she is a incredible business woman. She probably gives great head, also "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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MikeMatronik said: Elvis is overrated because he's white.
I actually want to know a little more about him. Just as I was scared to know about the Beatles...to obsessing over them for a year. I think if I hear one good album from his I might want more and more. I heard a real good song of his on the radio..didnt know the title but I want to pick up his greatest hits just to find out. plus HE WAS SO GOT DAYM FUINE when he came out. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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paisleypark4 said: MikeMatronik said: Elvis is overrated because he's white.
I actually want to know a little more about him. Just as I was scared to know about the Beatles...to obsessing over them for a year. I think if I hear one good album from his I might want more and more. I heard a real good song of his on the radio..didnt know the title but I want to pick up his greatest hits just to find out. plus HE WAS SO GOT DAYM FUINE when he came out. I would recommend 30 #1s to start your Elvis collection. | |
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Rodya24 said: paisleypark4 said: I actually want to know a little more about him. Just as I was scared to know about the Beatles...to obsessing over them for a year. I think if I hear one good album from his I might want more and more. I heard a real good song of his on the radio..didnt know the title but I want to pick up his greatest hits just to find out. plus HE WAS SO GOT DAYM FUINE when he came out. I would recommend 30 #1s to start your Elvis collection. I bought that one two weeks ago because I wanted "Burnin' Love" and the remix of "A Little Less Conversation". Yeah, it has all the hits. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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paisleypark4 said:
plus HE WAS SO GOT DAYM FUINE when he came out. Hell yeah, he sure was. He was handsome and he dressed sharp as a tack. It's a shame the way he started looking in the 1970s though. Not just gaining weight, but the clothes were an absolute joke. Those white jumpsuits with the cape. He looked like Captain Marvel. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: paisleypark4 said:
plus HE WAS SO GOT DAYM FUINE when he came out. Hell yeah, he sure was. He was handsome and he dressed sharp as a tack. It's a shame the way he started looking in the 1970s though. Not just gaining weight, but the clothes were an absolute joke. Those white jumpsuits with the cape. He looked like Captain Marvel. Elvis was a Captain Marvel fan. | |
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vainandy said: paisleypark4 said:
plus HE WAS SO GOT DAYM FUINE when he came out. Hell yeah, he sure was. He was handsome and he dressed sharp as a tack. It's a shame the way he started looking in the 1970s though. Not just gaining weight, but the clothes were an absolute joke. Those white jumpsuits with the cape. He looked like Captain Marvel. I agree. Elvis was gorgeous during the '50s and '60s. Then he became one of the tackiest people in show business. | |
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vainandy said: I would recommend 30 #1s to start your Elvis collection. I bought that one two weeks ago because I wanted "Burnin' Love" and the remix of "A Little Less Conversation". Yeah, it has all the hits. I'd recommend the 3-CD "Hitstory" box set. it includes 30 #1 Hits, 2nd to None and a 3rd disc of other hits. it's probably the best combo of concise but encompassing the biggest number of hits of any set out there. "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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Raze said: vainandy said: I bought that one two weeks ago because I wanted "Burnin' Love" and the remix of "A Little Less Conversation". Yeah, it has all the hits. I'd recommend the 3-CD "Hitstory" box set. it includes 30 #1 Hits, 2nd to None and a 3rd disc of other hits. it's probably the best combo of concise but encompassing the biggest number of hits of any set out there. OMG! I have never heard of this. How much is it? When was it released? | |
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Rodya24 said: Raze said: I'd recommend the 3-CD "Hitstory" box set. it includes 30 #1 Hits, 2nd to None and a 3rd disc of other hits. it's probably the best combo of concise but encompassing the biggest number of hits of any set out there. OMG! I have never heard of this. How much is it? When was it released? not sure when it was released. late 2005, maybe? there are actually 2 versions. the US version has 19 tracks on the 3rd disc, and the import version has 29. as you can see below, they tracklist for the 3rd disc is wildly different between the two. disc 3 is titled "The Story Continues," btw. no idea why the US disc 3 is so much shorter (and it is, time-wise. like 50 minutes). would have been the perfect set if it'd been filled up, i think. US 1. I Beg Of You 2. My Wish Came True 3. Ain't That Loving You Baby 4. Fame And Fortune 5. I Gotta Know 6. Flaming Star 7. Follow That Dream 8. One Broken Heart For Sale 9. Kissin' Cousins 10. Such A Night 11. Ask Me 12. Easy Question 13. I'm Yours 14. Puppet On A String 15. Love Letters 16. Seperate Ways 17. Steamroller Blues 18. If You Talk In Your Sleep 19. My Boy IMPORT 1. Blue Moon 2. Mystery Train 3. Rip It Up 4. Gpt A Lot O' Livin' To Do 5. Trying To Get To You 6. Lawdy, Miss Clawdy 7. Paralysed 8. Party 9. I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone 10. Girl Of My Best Friend 11. Wild In The Country 12. One Broken Heart For Sale 13. Kiss Me Quick 14. Kissin' Cousins 15. Such A Night 16. Ain't That Loving You Baby 17. Tell Me Why 18. Frankie And Johnny 19. All That I Am 20. Guitar Man 21. Us Male 22. I've Lost You 23. There Goes My Everything 24. Rags To Riches 25. I Just Can't Help Believin' 25. Until It't Time For You To Go 26. My Boy 27. Suspicion 28. My Way 29. Are You Lonesome Tonight? (laughing version) "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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vainandy said: I would recommend 30 #1s to start your Elvis collection. I bought that one two weeks ago because I wanted "Burnin' Love" and the remix of "A Little Less Conversation". Yeah, it has all the hits. I remember when I was little hearing "This Thing Called Love" I was dumbfounded when Queen sung it..though I love them I was upset that it wasnt Elvis. Ok Im gonna get that #1's set. I think that it will be a great start of me learning about this man. YAY! I got a new artist....new oldies yay! Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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uPtoWnNY said: bboy87 said: don't let this man hear you say that: he's already gearing up to bitchslap you [Edited 9/14/07 21:54pm] SHUT UP!!! Mashed potatoes, grra-vy and cranberry sauce - wooooo!!! Man I miss that commercial already. looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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jjhunsecker said: Harlepolis said: An overrated thief @ that
The usual politically correct cliches. Remember "Fight the Power" was TWENTYyears ago- even Chuck D has changed his tune Harlepolis is an ignorant person who choses to remain ignorant. No matter how many times an Elvis conversation comes up, and no matter how many people refute it with any number of facts and testimonials from Elvis' black friends and peers, Harlepolis really only has 2 things to say about Elvis: he was a racist and a thief. Ignore her. "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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It is truly amazing how often this question/topic comes up here. For people under a certain age it is really impossible to discuss the impact of "rating" of a performer, any performer who has been dead for thirty years, and had their biggest period of success fifty plus years ago. If you don't believe it talk to the average young person of today and ask them about Prince, MJ, Madonna or U2, or hell 80's music in general. You might find some who like it, but for the most part they think that those people are at best hasbeens at worst total fucking jokes. But we "know" the truth, because we were there. We know how wonderful it was to watch MJ glide magically across the stage while singing Billie Jean. How wonderful and strange it was to watch "Purple Rain" rain for the first time. We remember Madonna when she was still shocking people on the VMA's because she rocked not because she sucked. The point I am making is that we "know" the truth. So why dont we trust, the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Dave Matthews,the members of Pink Floyd, Janis Joplin, Aerosmith, Jackie Wilson, Sam Cooke, James Brown, Michael Jackson, The Rolling Stones, Eric Clapton, B.B. King, Johnny Cash, Jerry Lee Lewis, Roy Orbison, Barry Gordy, U2, Madonna, George Michael, Boy George, Billy Idol, Sammy Davis, The Who,...
Hell you get the point... when they say that, as John Lennon stated it so clearly "Before Elvis there was nothing." Overated? not according to the people on the above list and millions of others who first realized they didn't have to follow in the footsteps of the generations before them after they saw Elvis on Ed Sullivan. Who are we to judge their experience anymore than the current generation is in a position to understand what "OUR" generation of musicians/performers meant to us. Ultimately, Elvis' success/impact speaks for itself. The fact that we are still having the argument is just further proof. Elvis changed the world, sold atleast a billion records to date, and currently still has cds and dvds on the charts all over the world. Lets see how well any of our generation of singers are doing thirty years after they are dead... Peace and lovesexy!!! | |
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kalelvisj said: It is truly amazing how often this question/topic comes up here. For people under a certain age it is really impossible to discuss the impact of "rating" of a performer, any performer who has been dead for thirty years, and had their biggest period of success fifty plus years ago. If you don't believe it talk to the average young person of today and ask them about Prince, MJ, Madonna or U2, or hell 80's music in general. You might find some who like it, but for the most part they think that those people are at best hasbeens at worst total fucking jokes. But we "know" the truth, because we were there. We know how wonderful it was to watch MJ glide magically across the stage while singing Billie Jean. How wonderful and strange it was to watch "Purple Rain" rain for the first time. We remember Madonna when she was still shocking people on the VMA's because she rocked not because she sucked. The point I am making is that we "know" the truth. So why dont we trust, the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Dave Matthews,the members of Pink Floyd, Janis Joplin, Aerosmith, Jackie Wilson, Sam Cooke, James Brown, Michael Jackson, The Rolling Stones, Eric Clapton, B.B. King, Johnny Cash, Jerry Lee Lewis, Roy Orbison, Barry Gordy, U2, Madonna, George Michael, Boy George, Billy Idol, Sammy Davis, The Who,...
Hell you get the point... when they say that, as John Lennon stated it so clearly "Before Elvis there was nothing." Overated? not according to the people on the above list and millions of others who first realized they didn't have to follow in the footsteps of the generations before them after they saw Elvis on Ed Sullivan. Who are we to judge their experience anymore than the current generation is in a position to understand what "OUR" generation of musicians/performers meant to us. Ultimately, Elvis' success/impact speaks for itself. The fact that we are still having the argument is just further proof. Elvis changed the world, sold atleast a billion records to date, and currently still has cds and dvds on the charts all over the world. Lets see how well any of our generation of singers are doing thirty years after they are dead... Peace and lovesexy!!! TOLD YALL (if there was a emoticon of a lady rollin her head that would be me all ghetto with rollers in my hair n stuff!) Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Just to add to the list,(let the eye rolling begin) just read a report about an 02 after show where Prince sang "all shook up" and said "True love to the King."
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vainandy said: paisleypark4 said:
plus HE WAS SO GOT DAYM FUINE when he came out. Hell yeah, he sure was. He was handsome and he dressed sharp as a tack. It's a shame the way he started looking in the 1970s though. Not just gaining weight, but the clothes were an absolute joke. Those white jumpsuits with the cape. He looked like Captain Marvel. More like Evel Knevil well, it WAS the 70's after all My Legacy
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