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Reply #30 posted 09/13/07 3:04pm

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georgeguitar said:

MikeMatronik said:

Elvis is overrated because he's white.



not because hes white, hes over rated for the fact that many many many folk are better than him biggrin



pretty much...
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Reply #31 posted 09/13/07 3:05pm

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would it piss people off if i said jerry lee lewis is better than elvis, cause he is biggrin
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Reply #32 posted 09/13/07 4:41pm

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Harlepolis said:

An overrated thief @ that

Harlepolis is the damn truth! cool
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Reply #33 posted 09/13/07 4:48pm

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lonelygurl8305 said:

Okay---I went on this website for this rock band that I like (wont say the name, all I'll say is that its a very well known English rock band that disbanded about 27 years ago) anywho...I went into this thread about Britney Spears performers...and I dont know why I did this, but I said that Britney Spears (along with Elvis Presley) are the two most overrated artist in US history....yeah, I went a little over the top, and lord and behold, so many people told me off, I was just sitting in my computer seat like WTF? I dont have a right to my own opinon? While I do know for a fact that Elvis did put rock and overrall pop music into the mainstream, I just think he was a bit overrated...I was telling them to please respect opinion...but they kept bashing me and bashing me...

This one guy told me that Elvis wasnt overrated but overexposed...they were all saying that if it wasnt for him, popular music wouldnt even be where it is right now...and while I do agree that he did help out in that area...he just wasnt all that amazing to me??? Any comments??

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Madonna is the most overrated artist ever. A pure joke.


Elvis at least could sing and dance.
[Edited 9/13/07 16:50pm]
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Reply #34 posted 09/13/07 4:57pm

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of course he was...
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Reply #35 posted 09/14/07 11:37am

lonelygurl8305

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"no more"





That little girl is really pretty...
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Reply #36 posted 09/14/07 12:06pm

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Reply #37 posted 09/14/07 12:54pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

When people were trying to get Dr. Martin Luther King's birthday as a holiday, the counter arguement by MANY was "If MLK should get a holiday, Elvis should, too"


Those have got to be some of the craziest idiots ever. Martin Luther King was a civil rights leader, Elvis was only an entertainer.

Racists tried everything in their power to stop Martin Luther King's birthday from being a holiday. Here in The South, these damn rednecks celebrate one of the Confederate leader's birthday every year on the same day as Martin Luther King Day. That is a slap in the face and simply a way to cheapen Martin Luther King Day. If they want to celebrate a Confederate leader's birthday, they could at least celebrate it on a different day. They know what they are doing.
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Reply #38 posted 09/14/07 12:58pm

lonelygurl8305

vainandy said:

BlaqueKnight said:

When people were trying to get Dr. Martin Luther King's birthday as a holiday, the counter arguement by MANY was "If MLK should get a holiday, Elvis should, too"


Those have got to be some of the craziest idiots ever. Martin Luther King was a civil rights leader, Elvis was only an entertainer.

Racists tried everything in their power to stop Martin Luther King's birthday from being a holiday. Here in The South, these damn rednecks celebrate one of the Confederate leader's birthday every year on the same day as Martin Luther King Day. That is a slap in the face and simply a way to cheapen Martin Luther King Day. If they want to celebrate a Confederate leader's birthday, they could at least celebrate it on a different day. They know what they are doing.



Whoa...thats crazy...I thought that the south had changed...
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Reply #39 posted 09/14/07 1:41pm

JoeTyler

Elvis is the best rock and roll singer & performer of all time.

End of the story.
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Reply #40 posted 09/14/07 1:45pm

Rodya24

JoeTyler said:

Elvis is the best rock and roll singer & performer of all time.

End of the story.


Your opinion, not fact.
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Reply #41 posted 09/14/07 2:36pm

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lonelygurl8305 said:

vainandy said:



Those have got to be some of the craziest idiots ever. Martin Luther King was a civil rights leader, Elvis was only an entertainer.

Racists tried everything in their power to stop Martin Luther King's birthday from being a holiday. Here in The South, these damn rednecks celebrate one of the Confederate leader's birthday every year on the same day as Martin Luther King Day. That is a slap in the face and simply a way to cheapen Martin Luther King Day. If they want to celebrate a Confederate leader's birthday, they could at least celebrate it on a different day. They know what they are doing.



Whoa...thats crazy...I thought that the south had changed...


The changes in The South were made only because they were forced to change by the government. I looked it up on the internet and it is Robert E. Lee's birthday that is celebrated on the same day each year as Martin Luther King's birthday in the states of Mississippi, Alabama, and Arkansas.

Racism is still alive down here but it is more in the closet than it used to be. Down here in Mississippi, we are the only state left that still has the Confederate Flag as part of our state flag. A few years ago, the racism came out of the closet widespread when a vote was put to the test to see if we could get the flag changed. The racists came out of the woodwork in huge numbers to keep the Confederate flag still part of our state flag.
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Reply #42 posted 09/14/07 3:37pm

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If you’re talking about greatest entertainers, he’s not that overrated (checkout the amazing performances before he let fame and fried peanut-butter-and-banana sandwiches get the best of him.)

However, if you’re talking about greatest musical talents, he is overrated.

Clearly he was able to take advantage of two major weaknesses is this country: racism and vanity.

But that shouldn’t automatically get him type cast as either.

I didn’t know Elvis or his personal views, but it would seem that this rather large portion of the American public should be the ones absorbing the majority of the heat.

If he weren’t white or a sex symbol, he wouldn't be that well known.

But, unlike someone like Pat Boone, he had a great voice and stage presence, and didn’t butcher the songs for the consumption of the lily white suburbs who needed someone safe to lust after.

But if we lived in a country where blacks were the majority, the same damn thing would likely happen in the antithesis.

People like to buy things that are in their own image, things that they think might come from a similar culture. We often elect people and hire people for jobs using the same criteria. Which is why it becomes difficult if you’re not part of the majority (and more so in the 50s and 60s).

That’s too bad. Because you don’t often learn much just listening to your own viewpoint get sung back to you, as cool as I’m sure it is. wink

If you don’t have any Elvis or Frank Sinatra in your collection, that’s too bad. They were great, despite the fact that they were sex symbols in this crazy country and didn’t write their own material.

And if you don’t have any Chuck Berry, Little Richard, James Brown, Sly Stone or Prince, that’s even worse, because these guys pulled off many of the same amazing things with their own damn material.

But, again, if we lived somewhere where Chuck Berry fit with what the mainstream thinks is a sex symbol, he’s not turning down all the record sales just because they aren’t respecting his musicianship. wink
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Reply #43 posted 09/14/07 3:39pm

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JoeTyler said:

Elvis is the best rock and roll singer & performer of all time.

End of the story.

Mr. Costello thanks you. lol
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Reply #44 posted 09/14/07 3:55pm

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Very overrated..I never understood the overwheming success of this guy. What did he actually do?
Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U.
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Reply #45 posted 09/14/07 4:04pm

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Rinluv said:

Very overrated..I never understood the overwheming success of this guy. What did he actually do?



While I agree he is overrated by white mainstream media and culture, he was a brilliant entertainer. A great singer who was the first superstar in modern popular music. Of course, if he was not white and attractive, he would not have been as successful commercially.

But like I have said before, he was a man not a god. A fact that some often forget.
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Reply #46 posted 09/14/07 4:13pm

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Rodya24 said:

Rinluv said:

Very overrated..I never understood the overwheming success of this guy. What did he actually do?



While I agree he is overrated by white mainstream media and culture, he was a brilliant entertainer. A great singer who was the first superstar in modern popular music. Of course, if he was not white and attractive, he would not have been as successful commercially.

But like I have said before, he was a man not a god. A fact that some often forget.


I don't think he was all that good of a singer.
Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U.
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Reply #47 posted 09/14/07 4:16pm

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Rinluv said:

Rodya24 said:




While I agree he is overrated by white mainstream media and culture, he was a brilliant entertainer. A great singer who was the first superstar in modern popular music. Of course, if he was not white and attractive, he would not have been as successful commercially.

But like I have said before, he was a man not a god. A fact that some often forget.


I don't think he was all that good of a singer.


You are entitled to have your own opinion. nod The sad thing is that some think that if one does not think Elvis is "greatest performer of all time" one is a racist.
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Reply #48 posted 09/14/07 8:51pm

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Rodya24 said:

Rinluv said:



I don't think he was all that good of a singer.


You are entitled to have your own opinion. nod The sad thing is that some think that if one does not think Elvis is "greatest performer of all time" one is a racist.

I'm not a racist towards anyone but personally, I don't think Elvis is the "Greatest performer of all time" not even close, he doesn'even come to mind.
Some people think I'm kinda cute
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Reply #49 posted 09/14/07 8:58pm

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Rinluv said:

Rodya24 said:



You are entitled to have your own opinion. nod The sad thing is that some think that if one does not think Elvis is "greatest performer of all time" one is a racist.

I'm not a racist towards anyone but personally, I don't think Elvis is the "Greatest performer of all time" not even close, he doesn'even come to mind.


I agree with you. But some label people like us as racists for believing that he is not the "greatest performer of all time." Sad and pathetic.
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Reply #50 posted 09/14/07 9:08pm

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Rodya24 said:

Rinluv said:


I'm not a racist towards anyone but personally, I don't think Elvis is the "Greatest performer of all time" not even close, he doesn'even come to mind.


I agree with you. But some label people like us as racists for believing that he is not the "greatest performer of all time." Sad and pathetic.

I didn't know that. That is sad and pathetic. disbelief
Some people think I'm kinda cute
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Reply #51 posted 09/14/07 9:16pm

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Rinluv said:

Rodya24 said:



I agree with you. But some label people like us as racists for believing that he is not the "greatest performer of all time." Sad and pathetic.

I didn't know that. That is sad and pathetic. disbelief


Each person is entitled to his or her own opinions when it comes to music and performance. Just because I do not think Elvis is the "greatest performer of all time" does NOT make me a racist. It makes me mad thinking of the person who accused me of this.

IMO, James Brown, Sammy Davis, David Bowie, Michael Jackson, and Prince are the greatest performers in modern popular music. nod
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Reply #52 posted 09/14/07 9:17pm

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lonelygurl8305 said:

sosgemini said:

"no more"





That little girl is really pretty...

i know, too bad she died when she was like 14 sad
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Reply #53 posted 09/14/07 9:23pm

DarlingDiana

You can never over rate Elvis Presley.
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Reply #54 posted 09/14/07 9:24pm

Rinluv

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Rodya24 said:

Rinluv said:


I didn't know that. That is sad and pathetic. disbelief


Each person is entitled to his or her own opinions when it comes to music and performance. Just because I do not think Elvis is the "greatest performer of all time" does NOT make me a racist. It makes me mad thinking of the person who accused me of this.

IMO, James Brown, Sammy Davis, David Bowie, Michael Jackson, and Prince are the greatest performers in modern popular music. nod

Somebody called you a racist because you disagreed with Elvis being the "Greatest perfpormer of all time??

Also I agree with your list of performers, given a few others. smile
Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U.
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Reply #55 posted 09/14/07 9:27pm

Rodya24

Rinluv said:

Rodya24 said:



Each person is entitled to his or her own opinions when it comes to music and performance. Just because I do not think Elvis is the "greatest performer of all time" does NOT make me a racist. It makes me mad thinking of the person who accused me of this.

IMO, James Brown, Sammy Davis, David Bowie, Michael Jackson, and Prince are the greatest performers in modern popular music. nod

Somebody called you a racist because you disagreed with Elvis being the "Greatest perfpormer of all time??

Also I agree with your list of performers, given a few others. smile



Yes. It is hard to believe, because it is so ridiculous. I think David Bowie is one of the greatest performers, and he is caucasian. So calling me a racist because I do not think Elvis is the "greatest performer of all time" is irrational.

Rant over.
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Reply #56 posted 09/14/07 9:53pm

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JoeTyler said:

Elvis is the best rock and roll singer & performer of all time.

End of the story.

don't let this man hear you say that:



he's already gearing up to bitchslap you lol
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Reply #57 posted 09/14/07 10:34pm

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Harlepolis said:

An overrated thief @ that


The usual politically correct cliches. Remember "Fight the Power" was
TWENTYyears ago- even Chuck D has changed his tune
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Reply #58 posted 09/14/07 11:33pm

uPtoWnNY

Like Bo Diddley said, "As an entertainer, the cat was awesome, but he didn't really do anything..."

Overrated? Hell yeah. King of Rock & Roll? Please.
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Reply #59 posted 09/15/07 7:25am

JoeTyler

bboy87 said:

JoeTyler said:

Elvis is the best rock and roll singer & performer of all time.

End of the story.

don't let this man hear you say that:



he's already gearing up to bitchslap you lol
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Why? Only because he arrived earlier than Elvis? rolleyes
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