qvgangsta18 said: Lothan said: This excuses him from the way he treats black women in videos and in his music how?
^^^^^ GENERIC ASS COMMENTS, doesn't even know the artist mentioned this is why i don't get in discussions about rap music in the org, with the exception of Cinnie, most of yall be on some shit, Ja Rule treats black women like wut the man who was making 12 ballads in a row, for females, | |
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Lothan said: qvgangsta18 said: ^^^^^ GENERIC ASS COMMENTS, doesn't even know the artist mentioned this is why i don't get in discussions about rap music in the org, with the exception of Cinnie, most of yall be on some shit, Ja Rule treats black women like wut the man who was making 12 ballads in a row, for females, if u are familiar with his work, how does he treat black women since this man was laughed off the planet for that fact that he tailor made his whole career to love songs for ladies, and did duets with strictly ladies. | |
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phunkdaddy said: I am not a ja rule fan by any stretch of the imagination but he has a valid
point in his statement. I'll admit there is a lot of crap music in the hip hop industry but people that already have a jones for disrespecting hip hop has never taken the time to listen to good hip hop. Ja Rule it seems was just responding to critics who jump on hip hop. He was just taking up for hip hop. If you are gonna hold rappers to a higher standard, then you must do so for shows like mtv showing these bullshit shows promoting homosexuality. You can't have it both ways. I think they should take those shows off too but it's simply MTV doing the same thing now to gay people that they have been doing to black people for years. They aren't going to show a black person that looks and acts like they have good sense and they aren't going to show a gay person that looks and acts like they have good sense either. When they show black people, they are going to show the ones that run around with grills in their mouths, baggy pants, and talking a bunch of bitches and ho's shit. When they show gay people, they are going to show the ones that are limp wristed, twist and swish, fingerpop, and are quick to pop their fingers and go off and "read" someone. Then they are going to make sure that they kiss so they can shock the hell out of the straight viewing public. Most gay people are just like straight people, they aren't going to be all out in public kissing and shit. Gay people do their shit behind closed doors just like straight people do. This is simply MTV exploiting them knowing that an ignorant thug or a stupid redneck is laughing their ass off watching it somewhere. MTV is no different than the "Jerry Springer Show". I used to love talk shows like Donahue. When a gay person came on Donahue, he carried himself with dignity and respect. He told his story and the audience (which was mostly middle aged) asked questions or either made a respectable comment whether they agreed or not. On the "Jerry Springer Show" however, it is for the sole purpose of exploiting gay people when they come on. They usually get some flaming queen to come out, many times dressed in drag, swishing, popping fingers, and "reading" all over the place. Then they have an ignorant college aged audience that doesn't ask questions at all but make insulting comments and get in a shouting match with the gay person. Jerry Springer does the same with black people also by finding the most ghetto black person he can find. He even goes to the trailer parks and finds the biggest rednecks he can find. MTV is no different. They appeal to the same audience who doesn't want to enjoy life and celebrate differences in people, they simply want to exploit and make fun of them. More gay shows should be on the air because gay people are a part of life and have always been here and always will be here. There's no choosing being gay, you either are or you aren't so there's no reason to shut an entire group of people out for something they can't help. However, a person can help acting like an ignorant thug and they can help acting like a flaming queen. Those are the shows that need to be cleaned up. . . [Edited 9/12/07 21:00pm] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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qvgangsta18 said: Lothan said: Generic ass person who doesn't know me from adam. Of course I am familia with Ja's body of work or I wouldn't have spoke on it. Which reuser are you anyway?
if u are familiar with his work, how does he treat black women since this man was laughed off the planet for that fact that he tailor made his whole career to love songs for ladies, and did duets with strictly ladies. | |
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Ja Rule could start killing gays on a rampage and the major press would still ignore him. He's an asshole and probably gay himself. | |
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Didn't Wendy Williams put his business out there a long time ago. he was caught on a tour bus having sex with another dude and blamed it on the drug extacy. The majority of these rappers are past criminals, many who have done prison time, they have already been turned out and now want to prove their masculinity by bashing gay people. I alwas said "the one who protest the loudest is usually guilty". "POOR IS THE MAN WHO'S PLEASURES DEPEND ON THE PERMISSION OF ANOTHER" Madonna
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totaldiva said: Didn't Wendy Williams put his business out there a long time ago. he was caught on a tour bus having sex with another dude and blamed it on the drug extacy. The majority of these rappers are past criminals, many who have done prison time, they have already been turned out and now want to prove their masculinity by bashing gay people. I alwas said "the one who protest the loudest is usually guilty". Exactly! I can't tell you how many motherfuckers I slept with in the early 1990s that would tell me they were straight while they were putting their pants back on afterwards. It took me a long time to figure exactly what they were. At first, I thought maybe they were some crazy mental cases with split personalities....gay one minute, straight the next. I finally came to the conclusion that they were bisexuals that refused to accept their bisexuality and they tried to justify that they were straight because they were getting sucked and not sucking. That's when I turned the tables and would get them to the point of orgasm and then stop. They would either blow me or put their clothes back home and go home unsatisfied. Nobody is going to think they are above me and get away with it. Now, I just leave them alone and write them off as the confused trash that they are. . . [Edited 9/12/07 22:02pm] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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qvgangsta18 said: HMMM I SEE SOMEBODY ON THE ORG DOESN'T WANT TO POST THE WHOLE ARTICLE
Ja Rule recently spoke out about the upcoming U.S. Congressional hearing set to discuss the lyrical content and imagery of African-American women in hip-hop.
As SOHH previously reported, the aforementioned hearing entitled "From Imus to Industry: The Business of Stereotypes and Degradation" will take place on September 25 and will investigate media "stereotypes and degradation" of black women in hip-hop and the entertainment industry. Top industry executives including Philippe Dauman of Viacom, Doug Morris of Universal Music Group, Edgar Bronfman, Jr. of Warner Music Group and music mogul Master P are expected to appear as witnesses in the hearing. In a recent interview with Complex magazine, Ja Rule offered his objections to the hearings. "They got my man Doug Morris under fire and @#!*, they got him going down to go speak to Congress about hip-hop lyrics, are you @#*$ing serious?" Ja said. "There's a f--king black kid right now about to get 25 years for having a fight with some white kids over hanging the nooses over the white tree, let's get to that. Let's get into sh-t like that, because that's what's tearing up America, not me calling a woman a b--ch or a h-e on my rap songs." "And if it is, then we need to go step to Paramount, and f--king MGM, and all of these other motherf--kers that's making all of these movies and we need to go step to MTV and Viacom, and lets talk about all these f--king shows that they have on MTV that is promoting homosexuality, that my kids can't watch this sh-t," he continued. "Dating shows that's showing two guys or two girls in mid-afternoon. Let's talk about s--t like that! If that's not f--king up America, I don't know what is." "There's a lot of issues we can address besides hip-hop, but they want to put everything on us like we're the problem," Ja added. "This is going to be a shameless f--king plug, but I said, 'when everyone wants to point the finger, and ask why there's so much corruption, they only need to look in the mirror.' It starts with themselves." I'm just tripping at the irony of the publication being named "COMPLEX" Magazine Okay, back to ourregularly scheduled programming | |
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vainandy said: He's just mad because now there is another group giving the shit hoppers competition in being exploited and being made a fool of. Any self respecting gay person would never go on shows like that. A lot of gay people think that shows like that are progress. No they aren't. The purpose of shows like that is to exploit gay people so straight people can laugh at them. The ones that should boycotting those shows are gay people.
As for that shit hop piece of trash that made his little statement (like he's actually somebody), don't worry, there is still plenty of exploitation to go around as long as there are ignorant motherfuckers like him willing to be exploited. He needs to go sit his stupid ass down somewhere and keep his little brats from listening to his own music and his ignorant buddies' music also. That shit could do more damage to them than any gay person could. . . [Edited 9/12/07 18:22pm] Aaaaah, I swear with every post I'm loving you just a little bit more every day | |
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VANITYSprisonBYTCH said: MikeMatronik said: “We need to go step to MTV and Viacom, and lets talk about all these fucking shows that they have on MTV that is promoting homosexuality, that my kids can’t watch this shit. Dating shows that’s showing two guys or two girls in mid-afternoon. Let’s talk about shit like that! If that’s not fucking up America, I don’t know what is.”
Source: http://perezhilton.com/?p=5450 [Edited 9/12/07 17:11pm] But it's still okay to play explicit T&A rap videos that he would do? What an example....he's probably on the 'down low' and only likes to see cock in the dark. damn I was just thinking this same thought. hell I don't want to see that but I damn sure got tired of looking at half naked women, drinks pant sagging, and a bunch of guys doing nothing but being under each other or with women from way out of leagues of all day too. nipsy | |
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totaldiva said: Didn't Wendy Williams put his business out there a long time ago. he was caught on a tour bus having sex with another dude and blamed it on the drug extacy. The majority of these rappers are past criminals, many who have done prison time, they have already been turned out and now want to prove their masculinity by bashing gay people. I alwas said "the one who protest the loudest is usually guilty".
no... never happened... I'm no advocate for these rappers but all these threads claiming that all these dudes are gay are stupid.. the whole world is not gay | |
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banks said: totaldiva said: Didn't Wendy Williams put his business out there a long time ago. he was caught on a tour bus having sex with another dude and blamed it on the drug extacy. The majority of these rappers are past criminals, many who have done prison time, they have already been turned out and now want to prove their masculinity by bashing gay people. I alwas said "the one who protest the loudest is usually guilty".
no... never happened... I'm no advocate for these rappers but all these threads claiming that all these dudes are gay are stupid.. the whole world is not gay No, the whole world isn't gay but from what I've experienced, most of these thugs are bi and in the closet about it. There are plenty of straight men out there but they are usually the ones minding their own business and not spewing out hatred for gay people. Straight men are usually too busy living their straight lives to worry about what someone else is doing behind closed doors. A bisexual man in the closet has to be a loud mouth and spew their hate to throw people off their scent. And the fact that they are more masculine than a straight men, makes people not believe it when they get busted out of the closet. Think about it, straight men aren't that masculine and always trying to prove something. . . [Edited 9/13/07 13:31pm] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: 99% of those bastards are bisexual closet trade. And the reason they love lesbians so much is because lesbians are used to getting pussy and don't know the difference between a good dick and a bad dick. They know a straight woman would laugh their thug asses out of the bed. This thread is good as dead now! [Edited 9/13/07 16:02pm] | |
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vainandy said: Gay people are just completely taking over America aren't they? With all this rampant homosexuality going on, I wonder where all these new babies are coming from? There are plenty of children born around the world every few minutes at a time. The earth is still overpopulated. So don't worry about it. | |
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phunkdaddy said: Cinnie said: The sad thing is some of these new babies are being adopted by homosexual couples. But that's only because some straight couples are too cheap to adopted unwanted children. | |
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bboy87 said: Lothan said: Who cares about this? People wil still go out and buy his and 50's new albums. Being an asshole to gay people in cool in this country.
ummm.....people stopped buying Ja Rule's cds back 2002 | |
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qvgangsta18 said: Lothan said: This excuses him from the way he treats black women in videos and in his music how?
^^^^^ GENERIC ASS COMMENTS, doesn't even know the artist mentioned this is why i don't get in discussions about rap music in the org, with the exception of Cinnie, most of yall be on some shit, Ja Rule treats black women like wut the man who was making 12 ballads in a row, for females, Lothan isn't talking about the songs. She talking about the video hos. | |
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Lothan said: qvgangsta18 said: ^^^^^ GENERIC ASS COMMENTS, doesn't even know the artist mentioned this is why i don't get in discussions about rap music in the org, with the exception of Cinnie, most of yall be on some shit, Ja Rule treats black women like wut the man who was making 12 ballads in a row, for females, ANSWER: krazyboy18/KingKrazy/qvgangsta18.....and who knows what the next stage name is going to be!!! Seriously, qv isn't a bad person. Even if I disagree with him on certain subjects, sometimes he right on some ideas. Plus, he keep us "old timers" entertain with a different point-of-view. | |
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qvgangsta18 said: Lothan said: Generic ass person who doesn't know me from adam. Of course I am familia with Ja's body of work or I wouldn't have spoke on it. Which reuser are you anyway?
if u are familiar with his work, how does he treat black women since this man was laughed off the planet for that fact that he tailor made his whole career to love songs for ladies, and did duets with strictly ladies. I still remember J.Lo & Ja Rule for the way they damn nearly killed a Rick James sample for the song I'm Real. | |
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First, why would you want your kids to watch ANYTHING on MTV...
Second, there is an overall lack of respect (for self & others) & decency in ALL the damn dating shows. It's something we can easily dismiss as adults but why in the FUCK would you want your kids to pick up anything about how to interact w/ others (dating or otherwise) from such shows? Kids should not be watching that shit - it's mindless trash, all of it. How fucking dare he try to pin anything perverse on gay people. Muthafucka, PLEASE | |
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bboy87 said: Lothan said: Who cares about this? People wil still go out and buy his and 50's new albums. Being an asshole to gay people in cool in this country.
ummm.....people stopped buying Ja Rule's cds back 2002 | |
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TonyVanDam said: Lothan said: Generic ass person who doesn't know me from adam. Of course I am familia with Ja's body of work or I wouldn't have spoke on it. Which reuser are you anyway?
ANSWER: krazyboy18/KingKrazy/qvgangsta18.....and who knows what the next stage name is going to be!!! Seriously, qv isn't a bad person. Even if I disagree with him on certain subjects, sometimes he right on some ideas. Plus, he keep us "old timers" entertain with a different point-of-view. I would have never responded to his posts if I knew it was him. | |
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Lothan said: TonyVanDam said: ANSWER: krazyboy18/KingKrazy/qvgangsta18.....and who knows what the next stage name is going to be!!! Seriously, qv isn't a bad person. Even if I disagree with him on certain subjects, sometimes he right on some ideas. Plus, he keep us "old timers" entertain with a different point-of-view. I would have never responded to his posts if I knew it was him. At least I'm happy when you responded in general. qv needs to listen to his elder orgers more often so he'll learn something. | |
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TonyVanDam said: phunkdaddy said: The sad thing is some of these new babies are being adopted by homosexual couples. But that's only because some straight couples are too cheap to adopted unwanted children. Typo. My statement should have said that some of these new babies are being raised by homosexual couples. Don't laugh at my funk
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MikeMatronik said: “We need to go step to MTV and Viacom, and lets talk about all these fucking shows that they have on MTV that is promoting homosexuality, that my kids can’t watch this shit. Dating shows that’s showing two guys or two girls in mid-afternoon. Let’s talk about shit like that! If that’s not fucking up America, I don’t know what is.”
Source: http://perezhilton.com/?p=5450 [Edited 9/12/07 17:11pm] okay... um... i agree that MTV is just as bad as those stations that play rap music.... He shouldn'lt have been using profanity.... but i agree with him... im watching MTV.... that show about the parents or that show about picking a date.. and when i see a homosexual episode it ruins everything.. (im not trying to insult anyone... but it really does ruin everything) | |
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phunkdaddy said: Cinnie said: The sad thing is some of these new babies are being adopted by homosexual couples. well people in america better be glad im not apart of the government.. because that would NOT be allowed... Nature itself tells us two men or two women should not be raising kids... two men will NEVER be able to produce a child... so that tells me they shouldn't raise on either... im sorry people im not trying to offend anyone... but this is my belief.. i dont' care if you hate me or disagree... I will NEVER fall for that... never tolerate.... (JUst how you don't agree with me... but i will still respect you guys) i know those kids without parents need someone to take care of them... but i think they will be better off without being raised that way..... DON'T bring babies and children into that mess... | |
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TotalAlisa said: phunkdaddy said: The sad thing is some of these new babies are being adopted by homosexual couples. well people in america better be glad im not apart of the government.. because that would NOT be allowed... Nature itself tells us two men or two women should not be raising kids... two men will NEVER be able to produce a child... so that tells me they shouldn't raise on either... im sorry people im not trying to offend anyone... but this is my belief.. i dont' care if you hate me or disagree... I will NEVER fall for that... never tolerate.... (JUst how you don't agree with me... but i will still respect you guys) i know those kids without parents need someone to take care of them... but i think they will be better off without being raised that way..... DON'T bring babies and children into that mess... | |
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TotalAlisa said: phunkdaddy said: The sad thing is some of these new babies are being adopted by homosexual couples. well people in america better be glad im not apart of the government.. because that would NOT be allowed... Nature itself tells us two men or two women should not be raising kids... two men will NEVER be able to produce a child... so that tells me they shouldn't raise on either... im sorry people im not trying to offend anyone... but this is my belief.. i dont' care if you hate me or disagree... I will NEVER fall for that... never tolerate.... (JUst how you don't agree with me... but i will still respect you guys) i know those kids without parents need someone to take care of them... but i think they will be better off without being raised that way..... DON'T bring babies and children into that mess... I will never, ever, ever understand Prince fans that have something against gay people. | |
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gemini13 said: TotalAlisa said: well people in america better be glad im not apart of the government.. because that would NOT be allowed... Nature itself tells us two men or two women should not be raising kids... two men will NEVER be able to produce a child... so that tells me they shouldn't raise on either... im sorry people im not trying to offend anyone... but this is my belief.. i dont' care if you hate me or disagree... I will NEVER fall for that... never tolerate.... (JUst how you don't agree with me... but i will still respect you guys) i know those kids without parents need someone to take care of them... but i think they will be better off without being raised that way..... DON'T bring babies and children into that mess... | |
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