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PrintableBlaqueKnight said: banks said: I'm just saying that those things could have very well happened to him... The dixie chick said she was asahamed to be from the same state as the president.. Kanye said President bush hates black people..Natalie was just speaking her mind.. Same as Kanye only thing is that the people who supported the Dixie Chicks lost their minds Exactly. Its very rare that any artist, especially a black artist makes such a statement these days. The white, liberal media is working hard to paint the illusion that racism is dead and that we are all above it but nothing could be further from the truth. That statement was as bold and clear a statement as anything artists have said in the past 8 years or so. Say what you want but Kanye had the ears of the world and chose to speak against the government. You'd have to be a fool not to see that as bold. The government has been using the press for character assasinations of individuals for years now. It was a big ass risk to say something like that aloud. That set back our government and the press's efforts Justin, on the other hand, went on a Viacom owned awards show and spoke against Viacom's programming. Much less of a big deal but I'll give it to him. If it had been Prince, there'd be a 25 page thread in the Music & More section singing his praises and all of you know it. But there again he was saying something that was popular, yes a bold statement, but Bush did not have a positive approval rating for Katrina's response, its not like 90% of america were going "Great work George", however 90% of america were "sheep" to this war and 9/11, they would have attacked anything, so for someone to say something about 9/11 on 9/12 like Whoopi Goldberg and Bill Maher did and lost their jobs for it, but werent afraid of the backlash, that to me is Bold. There was no threat to Kanye at all, to me i would have more respect for him if on BET he would say "why are spreading these negative images on the daily" or not appearing on the network because its owned by the same industries you challenge, that to me would show Boldness. As for Prince everytime he speaks he talks about challenges and how things should change on these subjects, but when he does everyone says hes preaching. As for Justin, sorry, but he is clearly now going for more respect from people older than 18 so is saying things like that, because he's been working with Duran Duran and Madonna, two artists who BUILT mtv from nothing but now get no play, he was doing that merely to be "down" with that crowd, very see through as all things with him are. And the Dixie Chicks, well, it was more than their "fan base" that shot at them, all of the media and 90% of america did, and saddest of all almost NO ONE in this industry had their back, mainly because they were afraid their sales would be lost. [Edited 9/14/07 12:36pm] "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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While I agree that Kanye values popularity greatly, I disagree wholeheartedly that actually saying out loud SPECIFICALLY "George Bush doesn't care about black people" isn't a bold statement. You don't know what you're talking about there. That's a bold statement for anyone to say on a nationwide/worldwide forum of any sort. Miss me with that B.S.
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BlaqueKnight said: While I agree that Kanye values popularity greatly, I disagree wholeheartedly that actually saying out loud SPECIFICALLY "George Bush doesn't care about black people" isn't a bold statement. You don't know what you're talking about there. That's a bold statement for anyone to say on a nationwide/worldwide forum of any sort. Miss me with that B.S.
That was risky, even if impromptu and not well thought out. Well if you read back in my qoute it does say "bold" statement, which isnt in question, its the bravery of it that im talking about, there was not going to be a backlash from it to him at all and everyone knows that, no one out there was in Georges corner for Katrina, and alot spoke of Racism long before Kanye did. My point is that to make a statement about 9/11 on 9/12 is bold, and had people been listening and challenging like that then 2 wars could have been avoided. But no one challenged with the exception of a few who got fired, and there again no one "had their back" either and the reason, because it wasnt popular. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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