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Thread started 09/11/07 11:20pm

emile57

Michael Jackson & R.Kelly steal song

eek
2 belgium dudes wrote it!How low can ya go?

http://www.youtube.com/wa...MckIGS8Ndw
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Reply #1 posted 09/11/07 11:36pm

emile57

I hope they get a trillion dollas.
That was a nr.1 song on the billboard.
So low to steal a song.
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Reply #2 posted 09/12/07 1:38am

Ronnuz

Correction: R. Kelly stole the song, not MJ. He didn't even know about this. mad
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Reply #3 posted 09/12/07 2:15am

SpcMs

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Exactly! I rmmbr clearly when HIStory was released that I was surprised that MJ wasn't listed as co-writer or co-producer for this track (as he was for almost every other track on the album). So clearly MJ has nothing to do with this.
"It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."

My IQ is 139, what's yours?
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Reply #4 posted 09/12/07 2:21am

P2daP

i agree with you guys. This is Kelly's problem. He brought the song to Michael, and unless they can prove MJ knew it wasn't Kelly's track (which i doubt) then i honestly dont think anyone is gonna think Michael heard that demo and was like "hey, that's the same as a 90 second sythinzer song done by these 2 dude belguims dudes"
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Reply #5 posted 09/12/07 2:41am

planetearthsuc
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i knew there was something i didn't like about that awful song

now i can blame it on belgium

but they do make some good ass chocolate
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Reply #6 posted 09/12/07 2:54am

EmbattledWarri
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Kelly wrote and composed it
so its his problem
I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
http://www.myspace.com/stolenmorning
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Reply #7 posted 09/12/07 7:02am

TotalAlisa

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first of all.. MJ doesn't need to steal songs... people steal his dance moves, cloths, and money from him all the time....

I blame R Kelly... lol lol
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Reply #8 posted 09/12/07 7:49am

arron

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I am always amazed at how long it takes people who have had their song stolen to come forward. It nearly always happens years after the song was released. Why is that? I am not saying anything is iffy but it just seems odd especially with songs like this which were massive hits.
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Reply #9 posted 09/12/07 7:52am

Rodya24

You Are Not Alone - HIStory
Cry - Invincible
One More Chance - Number Ones

All written and composed by R.Kelly.

I hope Michael Jackson never works with R. Kelly again.
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Reply #10 posted 09/12/07 7:53am

Rodya24

arron said:

I am always amazed at how long it takes people who have had their song stolen to come forward. It nearly always happens years after the song was released. Why is that? I am not saying anything is iffy but it just seems odd especially with songs like this which were massive hits.



Good point. I am not sure how the legalities surrounding cases like this work. All I know is that this song was not an obscure hit. It charted quite well around the world.
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Reply #11 posted 09/12/07 7:57am

Rodya24

This reminds me of the debacle surrounding the Madonna song "Justify My Love." Lenny Kravitz "borrowed" much of the lyrics from someone else. That person eventually received co-songwriting credits, I believe.
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Reply #12 posted 09/12/07 7:58am

Alasseon

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arron said:

I am always amazed at how long it takes people who have had their song stolen to come forward. It nearly always happens years after the song was released. Why is that? I am not saying anything is iffy but it just seems odd especially with songs like this which were massive hits.


I think it takes time and *money* to be able to protest. Imagine how many times this must happen and it never gets publicized because the record companies can tie it up in litigation forever to avoid paying out.

An individual composer or a small record company can't fight the large music behemoths.

In many cases, the original author may indeed go to court immediately but it's hard to prove that something is yours if everyone has heard the stolen version first. The burden of proof is on the claimant and lawyers can murk up a case in so many ways, that many people just give up and shrug their shoulders rather than continue to fight in court after court.

Even giants get their material stolen by their *own* record company.

In this particular case, I doubt MJ had any clue what R. Kelly did. Jackson must get hundreds of songs presented to him as potential projects.
batman guitar

Some people tell me I've got great legs...
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Reply #13 posted 09/12/07 9:36am

ProgRocker

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That's R. Kelly's problem, not Michael's.
"Beauty is not in the face; beauty is a light in the heart." - Khalil Gibran
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Reply #14 posted 09/12/07 9:42am

JackieBlue

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lol at one of the comments:
“where is Ms. Bain screaming out that MJ didn't know about it?”
Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off
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Reply #15 posted 09/12/07 10:00am

emile57

Don't be mad at me..
Just saw it on the news this morning.
I love michael jackson!
I like r. kelly's song "I wanna pee on you" from David Chapelle!!
LOL razz
lol
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Reply #16 posted 09/12/07 12:23pm

Alasseon

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emile57 said:

Don't be mad at me..
Just saw it on the news this morning.
I love michael jackson!
I like r. kelly's song "I wanna pee on you" from David Chapelle!!
LOL razz
lol


It's a shame when R. Kelly and Michael Jackson have more than just music in common.
batman guitar

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Reply #17 posted 09/12/07 3:28pm

Timmy84

They said Kells stole the melody but he DID write the lyrics though... hmm...
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Reply #18 posted 09/12/07 3:48pm

EmbattledWarri
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Alasseon said:

emile57 said:

Don't be mad at me..
Just saw it on the news this morning.
I love michael jackson!
I like r. kelly's song "I wanna pee on you" from David Chapelle!!
LOL razz
lol


It's a shame when R. Kelly and Michael Jackson have more than just music in common.

cept Michael Jackson doesn't pee on his victims
I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
http://www.myspace.com/stolenmorning
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Reply #19 posted 09/12/07 5:48pm

TonyVanDam

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emile57 said:

eek
2 belgium dudes wrote it!How low can ya go?

http://www.youtube.com/wa...MckIGS8Ndw


First the controversy with Timbaland, now R.Kelly?!?

disbelief I have no comment. I'm stun!
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Reply #20 posted 09/12/07 5:49pm

TonyVanDam

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arron said:

I am always amazed at how long it takes people who have had their song stolen to come forward. It nearly always happens years after the song was released. Why is that? I am not saying anything is iffy but it just seems odd especially with songs like this which were massive hits.



.....because a great lawyer cost money. That's why.
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Reply #21 posted 09/12/07 6:26pm

DANGEROUSx

it has NOTHING to do with MJ. R. Kelly was the one that "composed" it.
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Reply #22 posted 09/12/07 7:14pm

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Rodya24 said:

This reminds me of the debacle surrounding the Madonna song "Justify My Love." Lenny Kravitz "borrowed" much of the lyrics from someone else. That person eventually received co-songwriting credits, I believe.


That someone else was Prince's very own Ingrid Chavez - eventually got songwriting credits after taking Lenny to court..
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Reply #23 posted 09/12/07 7:40pm

DarlingDiana

Speaking of MJ songs that supposedly rip-off foriegn songs, check this shit out.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nmsOszKuw3U
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Reply #24 posted 09/12/07 7:49pm

Rodya24

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Reply #25 posted 09/12/07 7:50pm

Rodya24

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Reply #26 posted 09/12/07 7:51pm

Rodya24

DarlingDiana said:

Speaking of MJ songs that supposedly rip-off foriegn songs, check this shit out.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nmsOszKuw3U



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That song was awful. Just awful
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Reply #27 posted 09/13/07 2:39am

DarlingDiana

Rodya24 said:

DarlingDiana said:

Speaking of MJ songs that supposedly rip-off foriegn songs, check this shit out.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nmsOszKuw3U



biggrin

That song was awful. Just awful

So is the original YANA by those swedish guys, but that doesn't mean it's not a rip-off.
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Reply #28 posted 09/13/07 2:50am

EmbattledWarri
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DarlingDiana said:

Rodya24 said:




biggrin

That song was awful. Just awful

So is the original YANA by those swedish guys, but that doesn't mean it's not a rip-off.

Didn't Rod temperton write thriller...
he's a pretty legit song writer...
I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
http://www.myspace.com/stolenmorning
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Reply #29 posted 09/13/07 3:01am

DarlingDiana

EmbattledWarrior said:

DarlingDiana said:


So is the original YANA by those swedish guys, but that doesn't mean it's not a rip-off.

Didn't Rod temperton write thriller...
he's a pretty legit song writer...

I thought R Kelly was a legit songwriter too. That Exorcismo song is freakishly similiar to Thriller.
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