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So, has anyone been to Etterlene "Mama" DeBarge's Web site?
http://www.mamadebarge.com Among other things, you can buy her biography about raising her children in an apparently troubled marriage. Also, Bunny DeBarge will be releasing a biography called "The Kept One." [Edited 9/11/07 21:31pm] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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Najee said: I wish Muthafunka would take his troll/wench ...
[Edited 9/11/07 19:48pm] Uncalled for and low class. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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Considering MsLegs follows you around like a lost dog looking for a chew toy, I would say it's appropriate. THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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Timmy84 said: When El was in the group, they had this solid leaning on each other so if anything bad was to happen, the other sibling would often keep a close eye. By the time DeBarge started becoming BIG TIME (by 1984), however, drugs seemed to slowly drive them apart. James got off into his cocaine addiction before marrying Janet and then when El left the group, all hell broke loose: Bunny started having nervous breakdowns on pills, James lost his natural friggin' mind, who knows what happened with Marty (he probably went to rehab and got clean), Tommy got in drug trouble, Bobby and Chico were sentenced for drug trafficking, El got arrested for slapping someone, etc. All kinds of negative shit mirrored the great talents of the family. It's a crying shame, really.
And just think, the article was written WELL before El got arrested recently and before Chico just got arrested. Now that's what I call "talking somebody up"  .nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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Najee said: Considering MsLegs follows you around like a lost dog looking for a chew toy, I would say it's appropriate.
Regardless, it's still uncalled for and classless. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: Najee said: Considering MsLegs follows you around like a lost dog looking for a chew toy, I would say it's appropriate.
Regardless, it's still uncalled for and classless. The following-you-around part or the "wench" part? I don't have any problems with you at all, but I do find MsLegs irritating and annoying. In fact, she follows you around so much (including putting up responses that say no more than, "I agree with you, MuthaFunka, because *YOU'RE THE MAN"*) I thought you had two aliases and you alternated between them to show "support." Any way, I'm pretty sure I'll get some response from her. I'll move on and discuss the DeBarge family (and particularly DeBarge) ... [Edited 9/11/07 22:09pm] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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Najee said: MuthaFunka said: Regardless, it's still uncalled for and classless. The following-you-around part or the "wench" part? I don't have any problems with you at all, but I do find MsLegs irritating and annoying. In fact, she follows you around so much (including putting up responses that say no more than, "I agree with you, MuthaFunka, because *YOU'RE THE MAN"*) I thought you had two aliases and you alternated between them to show "support." Any way, I'm pretty sure I'll get some response from her. I'll move on and discuss the DeBarge family (and particularly DeBarge) ... [Edited 9/11/07 22:09pm] The entire comment is unnecessary, that's all. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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Man, apparently drugs have taken a toll on Bunny DeBarge:
She used to be so fine (although she always came off as cold, lacking a warm personality) during the days of DeBarge. In addition to the photos I have posted, here is another one from the "All This Love" era: 
And according to the Web site, Bunny has 10 grandchildren! [Edited 9/11/07 22:59pm] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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Najee said: Considering MsLegs follows you around like a lost dog looking for a chew toy, I would say it's appropriate.
And BK too. I have to wonder if all three are the same person.   | |
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Empress said: Najee said: Considering MsLegs follows you around like a lost dog looking for a chew toy, I would say it's appropriate.
And BK too. I have to wonder if all three are the same person.   nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: Empress said: And BK too. I have to wonder if all three are the same person. Well, I am wondering. MsLegs follows you both around the org and makes very similar comments and I know that many people have numerous accounts.  | |
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Empress said: MuthaFunka said: Well, I am wondering. MsLegs follows you both around the org and makes very similar comments and I know that many people have numerous accounts. Legs and I are not the same person. BK and I are not the same person. But BK and Legs? Hmm? Naw, they aren't the same either!  nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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One overlooked aspect of DeBarge is that all members except Bunny played instruments and they generally wrote their own music. El and James were keyboardists, Mark played the trumpet and Randy could play bass. Most people tend to think of them only as vocalists based on their TV appearances.
To me, DeBarge is one of those acts that I would call star-crossed; other acts I feel fall into this category are En Vogue, The Time, Guy and (more tragically) Heatwave and Donnie Hathaway. They had all the trappings to be even bigger than they were but Motown allegedly coerced El into leaving his siblings and it wrecked the siblings not only professionally but evidently personally. My five favorite songs by DeBarge: 1.) All This Love 2.) Time Will Reveal 3.) Queen of My Heart 4.) I Like It 5.) Love Me in a Special Way [Edited 9/12/07 8:51am] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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Najee said: One overlooked aspect of DeBarge is that all members except Bunny played instruments and they generally wrote their own music. El and James were keyboardists, Mark played the trumpet and Randy could play bass. Most people tend to think of them only as vocalists based on their TV appearances.
To me, DeBarge is one of those acts that I would call star-crossed; other acts I feel fall into this category are En Vogue, The Time, Guy and (more tragically) Heatwave and Donnie Hathaway. They had all the trappings to be even bigger than they were but Motown allegedly coerced El into leaving his siblings and it wrecked the siblings not only professionally but evidently personally. My five favorite songs by DeBarge: 1.) All This Love 2.) Time Will Reveal 3.) Queen of My Heart 4.) I Like It 5.) Love Me in a Special Way [Edited 9/12/07 8:51am] My top five: 1. Stay With Me 2. You Wear It Well (credited as "El DeBarge with Debarge") 3. I Like It 4. All This Love 5. Time Will Reveal | |
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It's ironic that for a group known as a soft-ballad act, DeBarge has had several songs used by rap acts in some fashion. "Stay with Me" (which was prominent in The Notorious B.I.G.'s major hit "One More Chance") and "A Dream" (another song I liked) have been sampled. The chorus for "I Like It" was interpolated in Wreckx-N-Effect's "Rump Shaker." [Edited 9/12/07 9:36am] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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Here are mine:
1: Stay With Me 2: Love Me In A Special Way 3: Time Will Reveal 4: All This Love 5: You Wear It Well In hindsight, for what it’s worth, I always felt a sadness about their music or maybe felt that they were never really happy or joyous no matter how much they smiled or uptempo the song. I never paid much attention to it then but now I can understand why. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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I agree, JB. Songs like "Who's Holding Donna Now," "All This Love," "Love Me in a Special Way" and "Time Will Reveal" always spoke of loneliness, inadequacy and insecurity, but they really take on an extra bit of sadness when you hear about the family's tribulations. [Edited 9/12/07 10:46am] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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PurpleCharm said: Najee said: I wish Muthafunka would take his troll/wench ...
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Thanks for the Mama DeBarge site. I have loved the DeBarge family for a very long time.
I used post to a DeBarge fan message board. Prince fans ain't got shit on those people. | |
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Double post. [Edited 9/12/07 10:44am] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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Najee said: Man, apparently drugs have taken a toll on Bunny DeBarge:
wow.. that's sad.. I'll keep her in prayer | |
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Najee said:
question .. i know that one sitting in the front was married to Janet .. what is his name? | |
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Flowerz said: Najee said:
question .. i know that one sitting in the front was married to Janet .. what is his name? James. And why is El the ONLY one NOT smiling? El looks like he JUST made it into the photo shoot just after doing some dirt somewhere.  nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: Flowerz said: question .. i know that one sitting in the front was married to Janet .. what is his name? James. And why is El the ONLY one NOT smiling? El looks like he JUST made it into the photo shoot just after doing some dirt somewhere.  thank you .. cause i kept calling him something else | |
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MuthaFunka said: Flowerz said: question .. i know that one sitting in the front was married to Janet .. what is his name? James. And why is El the ONLY one NOT smiling? El looks like he JUST made it into the photo shoot just after doing some dirt somewhere. Maybe that was El's style. If he'd smile, I think the photo would've been real cheesy. | |
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Flowerz said: MuthaFunka said: James. And why is El the ONLY one NOT smiling? El looks like he JUST made it into the photo shoot just after doing some dirt somewhere. thank you .. cause i kept calling him something else No problemo! nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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Timmy84 said: MuthaFunka said: James. And why is El the ONLY one NOT smiling? El looks like he JUST made it into the photo shoot just after doing some dirt somewhere. Maybe that was El's style. If he'd smile, I think the photo would've been real cheesy. But he smiled on other covers. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: Timmy84 said: Maybe that was El's style. If he'd smile, I think the photo would've been real cheesy. But he smiled on other covers. Maybe he thought the no-smile look would work. | |
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Timmy84 said: MuthaFunka said: But he smiled on other covers. Maybe he thought the no-smile look would work. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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