Both of them are supposed to be on 106 & Park Sep 11, the ay their albums are released. Fight anyone!!

Also, where is Master P's name at, he releasing "Hip Hop History" the same day.

From what I heard he retracted the whole statement about retiring and he claims that he was just mouthing off (when isn’t he) I never believed he would retire anyway. He also released a total of six singles that have already flopped and he is receiving little air play, I think there is a lot of pressure on radio to play artist that are more positive, which is a good thing, and that may be part of the reason why artist like Common and Talib Qweli are debuting higher, at least part of the reason.

Meloh9 said:

This indeed true... now he says if Kanye beats him it's because Kanye did a better job or promoting his CD

Both of them are supposed to be on 106 & Park Sep 11, the ay their albums are released. Fight anyone!!

Also, where is Master P's name at, he releasing "Hip Hop History" the same day.

I just dont understand the whole Debuting at Number one thing anymore and why it really matters. It was cool in the 70's when Elton John became the first artist to ever do it, and then did it again but then it was almost impossible for anyone to do it. But now everyone does it and can do it. To me its more about staying power. But i really would like to see Kenny Chesney beat them both out, and the funny thing is that the following Barry Manilow releases his cd and has a whole bunch of media appearances lined up, so it would be even funnier if Kanye or 50 is knocked out of number one by Barry Manilow. Not because its Barry Manilow, but because its an artist that has been at it 35 years now, i think thats what 50 and Kanye should be looking at, longevity.

From what I heard he retracted the whole statement about retiring and he claims that he was just mouthing off (when isn’t he) I never believed he would retire anyway. He also released a total of six singles that have already flopped and he is receiving little air play, I think there is a lot of pressure on radio to play artist that are more positive, which is a good thing, and that may be part of the reason why artist like Common and Talib Qweli are debuting higher, at least part of the reason.

From what I heard he retracted the whole statement about retiring and he claims that he was just mouthing off...

Meloh9 said:

That is true. As a matter of fact, 50 Cent & Kanye did a show together about a week ago.

lastdecember said:

I just read an article mentioning they will both appear on "106 and Park" on the same day (not at the same time, possibly, though) and it mentions that Kenny Chesney will, shockingly, not be ont he program but has stated he might be number one, which is very likely. Hip-hop's popurlity is declining much faster than of country. Also, I don't know much about Kenny but he strikes me as a Madonna type when it comes to releasing a new record (in fact, I think his last one came out right before COADF)...if he has little to no competition, he's a shoe in for number one. OF course, Kanye and 50 are competitors who both had number one releases. I think it will stack up like this.

#1 Kanye
#2 Kenny
#3 50
#4 Barry Manilow
#5 Master P

The Master P thing is leap....I know this much...If Fiddy gets outsold by fucking Master P, he won't have to retire himself! Who knows for sure, though. Barry and Kenny could be number one and two, respectively but since Kanye has the hit single, I would be shocked if he doesn't top. If he doesn't, it shows just how much the industry has changed.


Here is how the Amazon sales rank (not always the best example of the charts end up, though).

Kanye is 4
Kenny is 11
50 is 17

I think I could end up right. Of course, all of them are being outsold by Bruce's CD, which doesn't come out until Oct 5th! High School Musical is 2 and Patti Scialfa, Bruce's wife and hellvu singer (heard her on Letterman and I was shocked how much I was digging her) is 3rd! Those aren't shocking numbers considering the Amazon buying audience, which tends to be slightly older. Also interesting, Annie Lennox is 10 (hers comes out late Oct), and ahead of Kenny and Fiddy!

BTW, Barry's doesn't come out until the 18th, so he isn't in that dog fight (and he only ranks 332!) so maybe the comeback is over. Half the album seems to be made up of him redoing his own songs (still, there are 12 "original" covers of the seventies). At the very least, this will be interesting for the music business but the timing is terrible (50 and Interscope can only blame themselves for all the pushbacks, I guess).
[Edited 9/6/07 13:39pm]

TonyVanDam said:

They are both on the cover of the next issue of Rolling Stone. Apparently there isnt any annimosity between them (and honestly, why should there be?). Seems like this whole sales rivalry is designed to get people talking. And 3 threads later, here we are

The 2nd half of Kanye's album is good. Its sounds very..electronic. The 1st half is so-so, but thats just my 2 pennies.

unkemptpueblo said:

Of course i said long ago this was just a "show" to boost first week sales on two albums no one was waiting for or talking about, and of course to revive two labels that lost record $$ this year.

how and why do people even consider buying crap like this ?!!!

From what I heard he retracted the whole statement about retiring and he claims that he was just mouthing off (when isn’t he) I never believed he would retire anyway. He also released a total of six singles that have already flopped and he is receiving little air play, I think there is a lot of pressure on radio to play artist that are more positive, which is a good thing, and that may be part of the reason why artist like Common and Talib Qweli are debuting higher, at least part of the reason.