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MYA releases third video for an album Motown will probably shelve???

Well those who know me know i like MYA. And one reason i like MYA is that she is real, she has made alot of mistakes early on in life, screwed around with alot of shady people, had bad relations, but really who the hell hasnt, im sure we all regret past relationships we have had. The cool thing about MYA is she doesnt come at me like a victim, she knows her faults and she knows that there were people that fucked with her too, it works both ways. But another thing i like about MYA is what she is doing now, which are things that DONT get written about in Vibe interviews, because its not "sexy" or "Scandalous". Basically she has moved back to DC built her own recording studio and a Dance Studio for kids and teaches their too, it may not seem like alot to people, but for someone like 50 cent who said the other day "that MYA i dont think she is ever going be a success", all i can say to that is what have you built 50cent? when did you give back?

But on the music note. MOTOWN has pushed Mya back for the 10th time, it seems Motown enjoys doing this, we all what they did with the last Stevie Wonder cd. But MOTOWN really is showing themselves to be a joke at this point and making MYA look like an idiot, since everytime they give her a release date they send her out on a promo tour to talk about the CD and give the date and then they push it back. NOW they are releasing another video, the song called "Ridin" will prmeiere online on 9/9, this is the third single/video from an album that could just get shelved any day now. The label sites that it has pushed the album back due to other cds coming out and also to "luke warm" response to the singles. The thing that is really funny is that the second single LOCK U DOWN tested poorly, and the main complaint was that Lil Wayne was on the track, but guess who suggested Lil Wayne on the track? U got it Motown label people. The First single AYO barley charted on RB but for some reason was a Top 10 hit in Germany? so she released the video there only. And now number 3 is up, and I really feel bad for MYA because she wanted to leave her label due to POLITICS like this and here she is back in the middle of it. To hear MYA's comments on this and trust me she is actually vVERY NICE about this whole thing, but its really sad when you hear her talk about what labels look at these days and why these things happen. She basically sites the fact that its not about putting out a cd anymore cause no one makes money on their music now, you have to be a cover girl, a video girl, endorse something, etc..

The thing that really is funny is that MOTOWN is holding onto to this cd because it wants Huge week one sales, thats all that matters to them. Now if MYA was new then i would almost say they have to look at these things, but shes not, shes beeen recording 10 years now, its her fourth cd, which is double the life of most RB artists now.

Check Http://www.myaharrison.net there is a video interview posted on the page.



At this point I wish MYA would pull an AMERIE and just put out some mixtpaes in the USA and then go to the UK and play and do shit there and release the cd there because apparently it works there.
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Reply #1 posted 09/05/07 6:18pm

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This is insane... sad
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Reply #2 posted 09/05/07 6:49pm

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i kept wishing her the best, but then single after single it was kinda like they said, "LUKEWARM".

She really needs to get off the R&B boat and do a Rhianna. Mya should be doing "Shut Up And Drive" and "Don't Stop The Music" even "Umbrella" should have been hers.

Mya ... I still have faith in this girl, but she REALLY needs to leave the label...move to the U.K. and come back with some vast inspiration!
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Reply #3 posted 09/05/07 6:56pm

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Arrggghh!!! Im a big Mya fan as well.

Im SO ready for this album!! Why on earth is she with Motown anyways!

I like reading her interviews as well too. She doesnt put up a front.
Concreteloop.com lost the interview they did with her. mad So now they dont have anything to post
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Reply #4 posted 09/05/07 7:04pm

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paisleypark4 said:

i kept wishing her the best, but then single after single it was kinda like they said, "LUKEWARM".

She really needs to get off the R&B boat and do a Rhianna. Mya should be doing "Shut Up And Drive" and "Don't Stop The Music" even "Umbrella" should have been hers.

Mya ... I still have faith in this girl, but she REALLY needs to leave the label...move to the U.K. and come back with some vast inspiration!


I agree to a point, i feel that MYA needs to do like Amerie has done with her record and basically release it in every market but the USA, but i dont think MYA has the option and i dont think motown has any kind of distribution overseas. As far as the music, i didnt like Lock U Down, i like Ridin somewhat but i feel MYA needs a strong Dance track, and she did have it on this album, a song called "Walka Not A Talka" which was similar to "Free" but Motown decided not to go with it and released RIDIN to radio, and now are releasing the video online this sunday, and i heard a rumour that MYA had to pay for the video?

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Reply #5 posted 09/05/07 8:06pm

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mya is supposed to release a book like what superhead did. she did get with a lot of them
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Reply #6 posted 09/05/07 8:10pm

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Can i rub on mya's ass. biggrin
I would lick her dry.
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Reply #7 posted 09/05/07 8:27pm

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With the downloading problem that affects majorly r&b and hip hop music, it seems like the US market is too small for third rate artists like her.

6 years ago she could have sold at least gold easily, but right now only second rated and prime artists can sell above 500,000 units.

This is not Motown's fault, and this not her fault ...
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Reply #8 posted 09/05/07 10:23pm

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I have this cd and believe me, it stinks.
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Reply #9 posted 09/05/07 10:50pm

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6sixx6 said:

I have this cd and believe me, it stinks.

lol
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Reply #10 posted 09/06/07 4:32am

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seriously...who cares about a new Mya CD? lol I don't think too many people are losing any sleep over the delay of her new album.Yeah,she's cute but as an artist,she has zero personality.If she retired tomorrow,not too many people would care.
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Reply #11 posted 09/06/07 5:23am

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krayzie said:

With the downloading problem that affects majorly r&b and hip hop music, it seems like the US market is too small for third rate artists like her.

6 years ago she could have sold at least gold easily, but right now only second rated and prime artists can sell above 500,000 units.

This is not Motown's fault, and this not her fault ...

lol @ "third tier artists like her" lol
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Reply #12 posted 09/06/07 5:30am

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Mya's talented but there's a reason why after 10 years or so and an appearance in the awfully successful Chicago that she hasn't really taken off.
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Reply #13 posted 09/06/07 7:17am

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But its not even about her "taking off" , i think everyone at this point at labels thinks every single black female has to acheive Beyonce levels, and its just not going to happen for anyone but Beyonce. This is more about Motown and how it makes its moves, they had no problem putting out CD's by Lloyd and Tank this year without a hitch and despite both of those cds having hit singles neither sold well at all. So the sales argument is worthless because NO ONE sells .

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Reply #14 posted 09/06/07 5:18pm

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lastdecember said:

But its not even about her "taking off" , i think everyone at this point at labels thinks every single black female has to acheive Beyonce levels, and its just not going to happen for anyone but Beyonce. This is more about Motown and how it makes its moves, they had no problem putting out CD's by Lloyd and Tank this year without a hitch and despite both of those cds having hit singles neither sold well at all. So the sales argument is worthless because NO ONE sells .



Thats tru..u KNOW Tank wasnt gonna do nothin. U really have to be differen these days to sell man. R&B artists really have to BRANCH the fuck out
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Reply #15 posted 09/06/07 5:34pm

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lastdecember said:

But its not even about her "taking off" , i think everyone at this point at labels thinks every single black female has to acheive Beyonce levels, and its just not going to happen for anyone but Beyonce. This is more about Motown and how it makes its moves, they had no problem putting out CD's by Lloyd and Tank this year without a hitch and despite both of those cds having hit singles neither sold well at all. So the sales argument is worthless because NO ONE sells .


Motown released LLoyd's album because the kid got A MEGA SMASH HIT with You and another hit with Get it shawty. His album went Gold, which is amazing this time around for an average r&b singer like him. lol
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Reply #16 posted 09/06/07 5:38pm

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Please, we don't need another Beyonce. Even with Motown stalling her release, it just seems that she doesn't have that core audience that miss her when she's gone. The Org is the only place I know where Mya actually comes up with interest. It seems people stopped caring. For all her talent I would think that she would be quietly making noise in other ways. Maybe 'taking off' is the wrong expression but I expected more from her over the years. It's hard for the R&B chicks these days.
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Reply #17 posted 09/06/07 5:47pm

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krayzie said:

lastdecember said:

But its not even about her "taking off" , i think everyone at this point at labels thinks every single black female has to acheive Beyonce levels, and its just not going to happen for anyone but Beyonce. This is more about Motown and how it makes its moves, they had no problem putting out CD's by Lloyd and Tank this year without a hitch and despite both of those cds having hit singles neither sold well at all. So the sales argument is worthless because NO ONE sells .


Motown released LLoyd's album because the kid got A MEGA SMASH HIT with You and another hit with Get it shawty. His album went Gold, which is amazing this time around for an average r&b singer like him. lol


his album was certified Gold, but on Soundscan its listed as selling under 300,000 which is good for todays market, but considering he had two hit singles thats not a good number.

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Reply #18 posted 09/06/07 5:54pm

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lastdecember said:

krayzie said:



Motown released LLoyd's album because the kid got A MEGA SMASH HIT with You and another hit with Get it shawty. His album went Gold, which is amazing this time around for an average r&b singer like him. lol


his album was certified Gold, but on Soundscan its listed as selling under 300,000 which is good for todays market, but considering he had two hit singles thats not a good number.



How did Mya's last album du? I hope it did good 4 her. My Love Is Like was a cool jam back then. I wish she couldve released "Whatever Bitch" in the clubs only. Other than that there werent really any big ear catchers on the last album.
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Reply #19 posted 09/06/07 5:55pm

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Please, we don't need another Beyonce. Even with Motown stalling her release, it just seems that she doesn't have that core audience that miss her when she's gone. The Org is the only place I know where Mya actually comes up with interest. It seems people stopped caring. For all her talent I would think that she would be quietly making noise in other ways. Maybe 'taking off' is the wrong expression but I expected more from her over the years. It's hard for the R&B chicks these days.


Well its a valid argument but i think she is very content with what she has. I mean she did quite a few appearances in Movies and she was in demand of alot of artists to use on their albums for guest spots and vocals. But like everything else there is only one Beyonce and that Mega stardom. Despite people thinking Rihanna is the new thing in RB her last album which had two huge singles sold less than Mya's first two cd's. There just seems to be a "glut" in the way marketing goes, Mya's website has a really good following as does her myspace site, and trust me people are calling Motown the worst label ever over this whole thing. I just think she would be better served taking herself out of the US market, like Amerie did, now Amerie has a tremendous following in countries that we all dont realize BUY alot of music and actually are loyal to artists.

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paisleypark4 said:

lastdecember said:



his album was certified Gold, but on Soundscan its listed as selling under 300,000 which is good for todays market, but considering he had two hit singles thats not a good number.



How did Mya's last album du? I hope it did good 4 her. My Love Is Like was a cool jam back then. I wish she couldve released "Whatever Bitch" in the clubs only. Other than that there werent really any big ear catchers on the last album.


I beleive it was Gold her first two were Platnum. But Interscope which released "Moodring" pulled the plug as "Fallen" was released as a single, despite it doing well and Mya doing a House of Blues Tour they pulled out the $$ to promote and Mya quit the label.

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I always thought Motown should have been shut down years ago even before the Andre Harrell debacle. Why ruin such a historical label? Anyway, I truly believe that success is defined by the individual so as long as she's happy and feels successful by her standards then that's all that really matters.

I'm not a R&B fan so there are only five female acts that I really like and they're all going through some type of professional struggle except for one and she already went through hers and for now, things are looking good.
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lastdecember...do you work on her team? Are you a roadie? publicist? I can't see someone so far up on an artist of her non-magnitude and not be a part of her team.

not being an asshole..and what was up with her song woah?

THat term was made hot by Black Rob in 2000...then she releases my love is like woah in 2003. was that song pushed back? I never understood that
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KatSkrizzle said:

lastdecember...do you work on her team? Are you a roadie? publicist? I can't see someone so far up on an artist of her non-magnitude and not be a part of her team.

not being an asshole..and what was up with her song woah?

THat term was made hot by Black Rob in 2000...then she releases my love is like woah in 2003. was that song pushed back? I never understood that


No if i were on her team i would have told her NEVER sign with Motown. As for the "wo" song, she didnt want the song, the label gave it to her, it was mainly a Missy Elliot song, but MYA didnt want to do it because she didnt like singing "my ass is like Wo"

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lastdecember said:

KatSkrizzle said:

lastdecember...do you work on her team? Are you a roadie? publicist? I can't see someone so far up on an artist of her non-magnitude and not be a part of her team.

not being an asshole..and what was up with her song woah?

THat term was made hot by Black Rob in 2000...then she releases my love is like woah in 2003. was that song pushed back? I never understood that


No if i were on her team i would have told her NEVER sign with Motown. As for the "wo" song, she didnt want the song, the label gave it to her, it was mainly a Missy Elliot song, but MYA didnt want to do it because she didnt like singing "my ass is like Wo"


Really? So she couldn't just not record it? That's my favorite line boxed
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lastdecember said:



No if i were on her team i would have told her NEVER sign with Motown. As for the "wo" song, she didnt want the song, the label gave it to her, it was mainly a Missy Elliot song, but MYA didnt want to do it because she didnt like singing "my ass is like Wo"


Really? So she couldn't just not record it? That's my favorite line boxed


I dont really know what the deal was, "WO" was the last song and they wanted her to do it because they wanted a HIT single and they didnt think anything else could be. This is when she started to feel she should go. Lately i have been finding out alot about MYA that i never knew like she had some serious, anger issues during that time period (including owning a gun) , she also was in a relationship with a record exec/ceo (though she doesnt name him) who constantly put her down, and told her she would never be "Beyonce" but she said she was just "addicted" to him and the relationship, not sure who he is, but the article i read says that he was someone about 10 years older than her, which would make him 38-39 now, hmmm wonder who?
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Funny, I'm totally not into Mya yet this is like the second time I've 'discussed' her on here. I don't know much about her other than rumors and such, a few facts here and there. I tried to get into her music but only liked 4 songs: Fallen, Anatomy 1on1, My Love is Like... and No Sleep.

I'm so tired of these girls being measured against Beyonce. I'm tired of labels and their control and holding back artists like Res in my thread down yonder. I'm tired of them pushing a certain look, style, image and the whole nine into every media outlet. It's just the same story over and over.
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Reply #27 posted 09/06/07 7:29pm

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JackieBlue said:

Funny, I'm totally not into Mya yet this is like the second time I've 'discussed' her on here. I don't know much about her other than rumors and such, a few facts here and there. I tried to get into her music but only liked 4 songs: Fallen, Anatomy 1on1, My Love is Like... and No Sleep.

I'm so tired of these girls being measured against Beyonce. I'm tired of labels and their control and holding back artists like Res in my thread down yonder. I'm tired of them pushing a certain look, style, image and the whole nine into every media outlet. It's just the same story over and over.


It really is, dont get me wrong I do like Beyonce and think she is amazing and talented. But what i dont like is every label thinking they have to acheive that with their RB females. I mean not even to get into the politics of what went on at Sony with Amerie and Beyonce and Amerie getting shelved and tracks getting taken, things like that. But its just the train of thought and the LAZINESS of people at labels to just try and work someone else for who they are and not try to get them to be Beyonce or expect them to sell like Beyonce.

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While I stay relatively in touch with popular music, this is for the most part why I can't be bothered with what they're trying to sell me. They're going to keep giving me the same stuff in a different package and they're definitely not promoting the music and artists I like so I feel like I'm on my own.
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Reply #29 posted 09/07/07 12:37am

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Mya is like Ashanti...extremely pretty,but there's no substance there.Both of these ladies make disposable R&B music that is soon forgotten.
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