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MuthaFunka said:[quote] nd33 said: As I was reading your post, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt until I read THIS: As for "copying gangsta rap", please listen to "ready to die". That shit almost defines gangsta rap.
That's where I stopped reading. If I were you, I'd sit this debate out, playa. Are you saying you don't believe that "ready to die" is so called "gangsta rap"? Because it has no parliament samples? Because biggies from the east? Or are you saying you don't rate this magnificent album? _ Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss... | |
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MuthaFunka said: namepeace said: Really? I'd concede that Biggie is a tad overrated, but, not THE most overrated. That could go to any number of post-Biggie/'Pac MCs. And maybe 'Pac himself, to the degree that both he and Biggie are great MCs but not really among the very best of the best per se. As it relates to public perception and reality, Biggie is the most overrated rapper of all time. His overall skills never matched his deserving of the accolades and the popularity. His timing was great but he was a Puffy-generated act more so than a Hip-Hop artist. The same way Puffy created Mase and the same way Puffy tried to create Loon. Mutha. Come on, na. He had more talent as an MC than you give him ccredit for. You're comparing Christopher Wallace to Mase and Loon? Really? Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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VonMarie said:
Everybody know THIS was the true downfall of Hip-Hop!!! Hmmm..... Not bad. The only problem is, Hammer was never Hip Hop and he was ALWAYS rap. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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nd33 said: MuthaFunka said:
That's where I stopped reading. If I were you, I'd sit this debate out, playa. Are you saying you don't believe that "ready to die" is so called "gangsta rap"? Because it has no parliament samples? Because biggies from the east? Or are you saying you don't rate this magnificent album? _ No, I'm saying it's utterly ridiculous to suggest that ANY of Biggie's albums "defined" G-Rap. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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namepeace said: MuthaFunka said: As it relates to public perception and reality, Biggie is the most overrated rapper of all time. His overall skills never matched his deserving of the accolades and the popularity. His timing was great but he was a Puffy-generated act more so than a Hip-Hop artist. The same way Puffy created Mase and the same way Puffy tried to create Loon. Mutha. Come on, na. He had more talent as an MC than you give him ccredit for. You're comparing Christopher Wallace to Mase and Loon? Really? No, Biggie was decent. Mase and Loon were pure, unadulterated garbage. All I'm saying is that all 3 were Puffy-generated, that's all. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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VonMarie said: Everybody know THIS was the true downfall of Hip-Hop!!!
You know, this album prevented hip-hop from going that way. At least for a while. It proved that you could bring hardcore hip-hop to the table and sell a lot of records. 
Now, gangsta rap is more of an empty novelty act than Hammer ever was. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: VonMarie said: Everybody know THIS was the true downfall of Hip-Hop!!!
You know, this album prevented hip-hop from going that way. At least for a while. It proved that you could bring hardcore hip-hop to the table and sell a lot of records.
Now, gangsta rap is more of an empty novelty act than Hammer ever was. My post was a joke...but there is a LOT of truth in your response!  | |
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MuthaFunka said: nd33 said: Are you saying you don't believe that "ready to die" is so called "gangsta rap"? Because it has no parliament samples? Because biggies from the east? Or are you saying you don't rate this magnificent album? _ No, I'm saying it's utterly ridiculous to suggest that ANY of Biggie's albums "defined" G-Rap. Well what I'm saying is that RTD is "gangsta" in nature, doesn't sound like anything else and is highly regarded by genuine hip hop fans of many persuasions. _ Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss... | |
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VonMarie said: My post was a joke...but there is a LOT of truth in your response! Yeah, I figured as much when you posted that hilarious cartoon clip. How Hammer ever went broke I'll never know. Did you know he was a stoolie for the A's owner in the 70's? But I digress. Anyways, I wanted to post that segue before I forgot. You know, compared to some of the pseudo-minstrels on the airwaves these days, Hammer looks like Sam Cooke. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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Ok ok... lemme solve this here little dispute for ya fellas...
All the rappers/hip hoppers mentioned in this thread suck balls equally  It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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FuNkeNsteiN said: Ok ok... lemme solve this here little dispute for ya fellas...
All the rappers/hip hoppers mentioned in this thread suck balls equally nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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VonMarie said:
Everybody know THIS was the true downfall of Hip-Hop!!! Hammer ... everyone was doing hip-hop like that back in the late 80's and early 90's. PRINCE: Always and Forever
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LittleBLUECorvette said: VonMarie said:
Everybody know THIS was the true downfall of Hip-Hop!!! Hammer ... everyone was doing hip-hop like that back in the late 80's and early 90's. If you truly believe that then you shouldn't be posting in this thread at all.
You're saying these cats were doing Hammer-style "hip-hop" in the late 80s - early 90s?: ATCQ, Digital Underground, Digable Planets, JB, De La, Rakim, Pac, NWA, The DOC, X-Clan, Stetsasonic, Paris, The Ultramagnetic MCs.....I can go on and on. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: If you truly believe that then you shouldn't be posting in this thread at all.
You're saying these cats were doing Hammer-style "hip-hop" in the late 80s - early 90s?: ATCQ, Digital Underground, Digable Planets, JB, De La, Rakim, Pac, NWA, The DOC, X-Clan, Stetsasonic, Paris, The Ultramagnetic MCs.....I can go on and on. Ah, the days of wine and roses for hip-hop, when quality acts were a dime a dozen (fortunately) and novelty acts were hard to come by. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: MuthaFunka said: If you truly believe that then you shouldn't be posting in this thread at all.
You're saying these cats were doing Hammer-style "hip-hop" in the late 80s - early 90s?: ATCQ, Digital Underground, Digable Planets, JB, De La, Rakim, Pac, NWA, The DOC, X-Clan, Stetsasonic, Paris, The Ultramagnetic MCs.....I can go on and on. Ah, the days of wine and roses for hip-hop, when quality acts were a dime a dozen (fortunately) and novelty acts were hard to come by.  nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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LittleBLUECorvette said: Najee said: Or WHAT ...? All call my boys up from the NO and start some trouble, ya heard me! HOOTIE HOO!!!! HOOTIE HOO!!!! I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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VonMarie said:
Everybody know THIS was the true downfall of Hip-Hop!!!  Oh hell no!
Admit it, YOU used to love Let's Get It Started and THIS album:  | |
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TonyVanDam said: Admit it, YOU used to love Let's Get It Started and THIS album:
A hip-hop head who digs "Let's Get It Started" admits to the love that dare not speak its name . . . props for MC Hammer. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: TonyVanDam said: Admit it, YOU used to love Let's Get It Started and THIS album:
A hip-hop head who digs "Let's Get It Started" admits to the love that dare not speak its name . . . props for MC Hammer. 
His debut single WAS in fact dope. After that - He went Pop Goes The Weasel! nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: 
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I don't know Soulja Boy is pretty bad.....so bad it's funny. I didn't think people still gave a damn about Master P or Cash Money. add on. [Edited 9/4/07 16:13pm]  looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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MuthaFunka said: LittleBLUECorvette said: Hammer ... everyone was doing hip-hop like that back in the late 80's and early 90's. If you truly believe that then you shouldn't be posting in this thread at all.
You're saying these cats were doing Hammer-style "hip-hop" in the late 80s - early 90s?: ATCQ, Digital Underground, Digable Planets, JB, De La, Rakim, Pac, NWA, The DOC, X-Clan, Stetsasonic, Paris, The Ultramagnetic MCs.....I can go on and on. Well of course not NWA and others. I'm talking about Kid N' Play, Kwame, Young MC people like that. PRINCE: Always and Forever
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LittleBLUECorvette said: MuthaFunka said: If you truly believe that then you shouldn't be posting in this thread at all.
You're saying these cats were doing Hammer-style "hip-hop" in the late 80s - early 90s?: ATCQ, Digital Underground, Digable Planets, JB, De La, Rakim, Pac, NWA, The DOC, X-Clan, Stetsasonic, Paris, The Ultramagnetic MCs.....I can go on and on. Well of course not NWA and others. I'm talking about Kid N' Play, Kwame, Young MC people like that. You're still wrong though because Kid & Play had a dope cut out around then called "Gettin' Funky" and were a legit rap duo until they started getting into film. Kwame was tons better than Hammer and a different steelo as well. And Young MC was just plain garbage. But all I was saying was you were wrong about the "everyone" comment. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: namepeace said: A hip-hop head who digs "Let's Get It Started" admits to the love that dare not speak its name . . . props for MC Hammer.
His debut single WAS in fact dope. After that - He went Pop Goes The Weasel! Whoop!There it is! Don't laugh at my funk
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LittleBLUECorvette said: MuthaFunka said: If you truly believe that then you shouldn't be posting in this thread at all.
You're saying these cats were doing Hammer-style "hip-hop" in the late 80s - early 90s?: ATCQ, Digital Underground, Digable Planets, JB, De La, Rakim, Pac, NWA, The DOC, X-Clan, Stetsasonic, Paris, The Ultramagnetic MCs.....I can go on and on. Well of course not NWA and others. I'm talking about Kid N' Play, Kwame, Young MC people like that. I'm looking at your avatar. Are you dwight howard of the orlando magic? Don't laugh at my funk
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phunkdaddy said: LittleBLUECorvette said: Well of course not NWA and others. I'm talking about Kid N' Play, Kwame, Young MC people like that. I'm looking at your avatar. Are you dwight howard of the orlando magic? Yes, I'm so happy we just won the gold medal in the FIBA America's Tournament and can't wait for the season to start!! PRINCE: Always and Forever
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Hey! Y'all leave Diddy alone!! After all he the one who's responsible for introducing us to the greatest Hip Hop group ever. Babs, Mr Ness, Dylon, Chopper, Sarah, Fred.....DA BAND!!!! | |
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Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Shit hop was around long before Master P. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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