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midnightmover said: whatsgoingon said: Why are some of you getting irate over this. I am one of Michael's biggest critics, but as someone said this happened along time ago. Some one asked Stephanie a question and she answered it. If the presenter hadn't have asked her the question we wouldn't be discussing it here, because it definetly isn't something she boasts about. They were close friends, even in Michael Biography he said that Stephanie was a "friend" of his around the time of the Wiz, although he didn't go into details on how friendly they were. So, they didn't have sex is that so unusual? But there was some kind of short romance there which happened when he was 20. I think some of you are so convinced that he is gay or worse, that the thought of him even briefly being romantic with a woman sends some of you over the edge. I too believe that both his marriages were for ulterior motives, but having said it doesn't mean he didn't have sexual relationship with any of them. I definetly believe he had a sexual relationship with Lisa Marie if not Debbie. I mean even though Lisa has admitted she believed she was used, she has also admitted they had a sexual relationship, but I guess some of you are so convinced he can't have any kind of relationship with a women that you probably think she is lying. When did I say Mike never had sex with Lisa Marie? That was a crisis moment in Mike's life when his reputation was on the line. I have no doubt that, in those circumstances, Michael probably gritted his teeth and did what he had to do. Lisa has said that they had sex but that Mike was reluctant. Which is similar to what Tom Cruise's first wife said about him. I don't think you realise that gay men are perfectly capable of having sex with women. Many of them don't want to be gay and often get married and have kids. That doesn't stop them being gay. It just means they feel unable to declare to the world what they are. We're all grown ups here so I shouldn't need to be explaining this. There's a republican senator who has been exposed for this just two days ago. It's a general truism of human nature that people often blind themselves to things that they don't want to see. This is how the American government was able to sell a war to the people, even though their alledged reasons made no logical sense. Most people were willfully blind. Politicians and psychologists have always known that. In this case there are many MJ fans who can't stand to think that Michael could be gay. I'm not talking about the usual loons here. I'm talking about people like you who in other areas are very perceptive about Michael, but on this issue you turn every bit as short sighted as any kop fan. There is an inate homophobia in this. Why do you think there are so few openly gay actors or singers? Because they know the general public are uncomfortable with homosexuality. You are showing this right now. As for Stephanie, like I said the girl is tripping. Even if Michael did like women there is no way he would go near a black woman. Check it out. Mike says he dated Tatum O Neal. She denies it. Mike said he dated Broke Shields. She denies it. Yet here is a perfectly good black woman who is more than happy to be romantically linked to him and yet Michael is silent about it. He can't even stand to see any trace of ethnicity in his own children. So please don't tell me he was rolling in the hay with Stephanie, or indeed any black person. [Edited 9/3/07 8:25am] Have you read Tatum's book? She said they had something back then and made out "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Najee said: Rodya24 said: The hilarious thing is that along with these so-called zealots, most of the time, the same individuals come to these threads.
That's also including the people who took this from a thread discussing Michael Jackson and Stephanie Mills dating briefly in the mid-1970s into some exhausting discussion into the sociological, pshychological and biological aspects of sexuality. I'm wondering who that happened!  How did it go from "Did MJ and Stephanie go out?" to "Michael is gay/bi/straight/asexual"?
Every MJ thread on prince.org goes straight to hell "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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dag said: She´s French! well, she looks better. These are not her best shots.
Anyways, there are some small clips of the signing on youtube. Check them out. They´re very funny. http://www.youtube.com/wa...tx0V7Q7FTE Here´s a clip of her. An hour after he asks for her phonenumber, she apperas again hugging him! And Mike´s making sure again, they´ve got her number And check the other girl: "how does it work? DId it hurt? " And than some man says "do I see something sticking out?" And Mike goes: You naaaaasty!"
http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= [Edited 9/3/07 12:13pm] [Edited 9/3/07 12:14pm] HA! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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whatsgoingon said: Timmy84 said: I often wonder how their chemisty onstage would've been. As you know, Diana Ross got her out from doing Dorothy in the film version of "The Wiz". Imagine getting acquainted with one Dorothy and then find yourself in the film with a Dorothy you knew since childhood.
Funny f*cking paradox.  What's funny is with these pictures Michael looks so much more geniune and relax with Stephanie than he ever did with pictures of Lisa Marie or Debbie Rowe. It just makes you wonder 
[Edited 9/3/07 12:41pm] he looked happier with Lisa "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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bboy87 said: midnightmover said: When did I say Mike never had sex with Lisa Marie? That was a crisis moment in Mike's life when his reputation was on the line. I have no doubt that, in those circumstances, Michael probably gritted his teeth and did what he had to do. Lisa has said that they had sex but that Mike was reluctant. Which is similar to what Tom Cruise's first wife said about him. I don't think you realise that gay men are perfectly capable of having sex with women. Many of them don't want to be gay and often get married and have kids. That doesn't stop them being gay. It just means they feel unable to declare to the world what they are. We're all grown ups here so I shouldn't need to be explaining this. There's a republican senator who has been exposed for this just two days ago. It's a general truism of human nature that people often blind themselves to things that they don't want to see. This is how the American government was able to sell a war to the people, even though their alledged reasons made no logical sense. Most people were willfully blind. Politicians and psychologists have always known that. In this case there are many MJ fans who can't stand to think that Michael could be gay. I'm not talking about the usual loons here. I'm talking about people like you who in other areas are very perceptive about Michael, but on this issue you turn every bit as short sighted as any kop fan. There is an inate homophobia in this. Why do you think there are so few openly gay actors or singers? Because they know the general public are uncomfortable with homosexuality. You are showing this right now. As for Stephanie, like I said the girl is tripping. Even if Michael did like women there is no way he would go near a black woman. Check it out. Mike says he dated Tatum O Neal. She denies it. Mike said he dated Broke Shields. She denies it. Yet here is a perfectly good black woman who is more than happy to be romantically linked to him and yet Michael is silent about it. He can't even stand to see any trace of ethnicity in his own children. So please don't tell me he was rolling in the hay with Stephanie, or indeed any black person. [Edited 9/3/07 8:25am] Have you read Tatum's book? She said they had something back then and made out She didn't actually say that in her book. She said he tried to seduce her, although he previously said she tried to seduce him. The operating word here is tried, she didn't make it sound he got very far in the end. I think we should stop trying to put words in people's mouths, and leave what they say alone instead of twisting their words just to prove a point, regardless of whether we believe what they say or not. | |
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bboy87 said: midnightmover said: When did I say Mike never had sex with Lisa Marie? That was a crisis moment in Mike's life when his reputation was on the line. I have no doubt that, in those circumstances, Michael probably gritted his teeth and did what he had to do. Lisa has said that they had sex but that Mike was reluctant. Which is similar to what Tom Cruise's first wife said about him. I don't think you realise that gay men are perfectly capable of having sex with women. Many of them don't want to be gay and often get married and have kids. That doesn't stop them being gay. It just means they feel unable to declare to the world what they are. We're all grown ups here so I shouldn't need to be explaining this. There's a republican senator who has been exposed for this just two days ago. It's a general truism of human nature that people often blind themselves to things that they don't want to see. This is how the American government was able to sell a war to the people, even though their alledged reasons made no logical sense. Most people were willfully blind. Politicians and psychologists have always known that. In this case there are many MJ fans who can't stand to think that Michael could be gay. I'm not talking about the usual loons here. I'm talking about people like you who in other areas are very perceptive about Michael, but on this issue you turn every bit as short sighted as any kop fan. There is an inate homophobia in this. Why do you think there are so few openly gay actors or singers? Because they know the general public are uncomfortable with homosexuality. You are showing this right now. As for Stephanie, like I said the girl is tripping. Even if Michael did like women there is no way he would go near a black woman. Check it out. Mike says he dated Tatum O Neal. She denies it. Mike said he dated Broke Shields. She denies it. Yet here is a perfectly good black woman who is more than happy to be romantically linked to him and yet Michael is silent about it. He can't even stand to see any trace of ethnicity in his own children. So please don't tell me he was rolling in the hay with Stephanie, or indeed any black person. [Edited 9/3/07 8:25am] Have you read Tatum's book? She said they had something back then and made out I haven´t. What exactly did she write? "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: bboy87 said: Have you read Tatum's book? She said they had something back then and made out I haven´t. What exactly did she write? Well, as I have said before she didn't exactly say that. She made it seem they spoke on the phone a lot and then one day he came to her house, and asked to see her room. According to her he had never been into a girl's bedroom before, which seems a little odd considering at the time he was still living at home with Janet and Latoya. It was there in the room that he tried to seduce her, although she put it more crudelly than that, but it doesn't seem he got very far. There are obviously contradictions between what he has said and what she says, but I guess it's up to the reader to decide whether to believe this or not. The book overall was about growing up as a childstar in Hollywood and being the daughter of Ryan O'Neal and having to put up with her father's numerous women. The typical childstar story of a child experiencing too much too young, | |
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Cinnie said: Harlepolis, looks like your thread went platinum.
I'm sitting here,reading all the comments.This thread is crazy | |
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soFRESHH said: midnightmover said: That's because Michael was a fan of Stephanie's. He loved The Wiz and he loved her in it. Also he wasn't having to pretend to be in love with her, like he was with the other two. It's obvious they're just two friends hanging out. Probably if she hadn't had the hots for him they could have stayed friends. OH you are a joker- you love to act like you know MJ and whether he loved/liked someone or not and knew what is feelings were..- you don't...observations are okay but you make it out like it's fact when it's not. You dont know who he's loved or anything else personal about him so stop acting like you do....seriously. You don't know about his personal issues were so dont even bother with it.. Michael has gone on record several times saying he loved Stephanie's performance in The Wiz. It might be a good idea to check your facts before embarrasing yourself in future. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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mimi07 said: awww here are pics from june 1977.
 I remember these pics,it's from Jet magazine | |
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In 1988,Michael released a single called "The Way You Make Me Feel".
In 1989,Stephanie released a single called "Something In The Way You Make Me Feel".  | |
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SoulAlive said: In 1988,Michael released a single called "The Way You Make Me Feel".
In 1989,Stephanie released a single called "Something In The Way You Make Me Feel". Crazy & deraaaaanged  | |
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SoulAlive said: In 1988,Michael released a single called "The Way You Make Me Feel".
In 1989,Stephanie released a single called "Something In The Way You Make Me Feel".
I finally found the MCA promo 12" with the acapella of "Something In The Way You Make Me Feel"! | |
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SoulAlive said: mimi07 said: awww here are pics from june 1977.
I remember these pics,it's from Jet magazine I remember them from the centre of this 1984 paperback my oldest sister had:  | |
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SoulAlive said: In 1988,Michael released a single called "The Way You Make Me Feel".
In 1989,Stephanie released a single called "Something In The Way You Make Me Feel". She also used to perform a cover version of Michael's She's Out Of My Life called He's Out Of My Life. Make of that what you will. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: SoulAlive said: In 1988,Michael released a single called "The Way You Make Me Feel".
In 1989,Stephanie released a single called "Something In The Way You Make Me Feel". She also used to perform a cover version of Michael's She's Out Of My Life called He's Out Of My Life. Make of that what you will. She also has a 1983 song called "His Name Is Michael",a duet with Peggy Blue
She married Jeffrey Daniels of Shalamar,the guy who taught Michael Jackson how to moonwalk
I wonder if she ever really got over Michael,lol | |
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SoulAlive said: Cinnie said: Harlepolis, looks like your thread went platinum.
I'm sitting here,reading all the comments.This thread is crazy  I can't believe all this came from that one little interview.Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: SoulAlive said:
I'm sitting here,reading all the comments.This thread is crazy I can't believe all this came from that one little interview.It's amazing how much mileage we can get from an MJ thread | |
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SoulAlive said: midnightmover said: She also used to perform a cover version of Michael's She's Out Of My Life called He's Out Of My Life. Make of that what you will. She also has a 1983 song called "His Name Is Michael",a duet with Peggy Blue
She married Jeffrey Daniels of Shalamar,the guy who taught Michael Jackson how to moonwalk
I wonder if she ever really got over Michael,lol I'm trying to find a polite way of putting it, but the girl is deranged. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure she's a lovely person and a great singer, but if she wasn't famous I'd expect to find her camped outside of Neverland screaming "Michael, will you marry me?" “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: SoulAlive said: She also has a 1983 song called "His Name Is Michael",a duet with Peggy Blue
She married Jeffrey Daniels of Shalamar,the guy who taught Michael Jackson how to moonwalk
I wonder if she ever really got over Michael,lol I'm trying to find a polite way of putting it, but the girl is deranged. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure she's a lovely person and a great singer, but if she wasn't famous I'd expect to find her camped outside of Neverland screaming "Michael, will you marry me?" "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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SoulAlive said: mimi07 said: awww here are pics from june 1977.
I remember these pics,it's from Jet magazine wow  I can't believe uncle mike dated someone that looks like that... |
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JackieBlue said: SoulAlive said:
I'm sitting here,reading all the comments.This thread is crazy I can't believe all this came from that one little interview. | |
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TotalAlisa said: SoulAlive said: I remember these pics,it's from Jet magazine wow I can't believe uncle mike dated someone that looks like that...Excuse me????? Have you forgotten:  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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TotalAlisa said: SoulAlive said: I remember these pics,it's from Jet magazine wow I can't believe uncle mike dated someone that looks like that...Yeah,it's hard to believe he would date someone who looks like that I bet somebody else arranged that date.During that time,Mike was more interested in ladies who looked like Tatum O' Neal,lol. | |
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DawnD said: Jezebel said: girlfriends, my ass. Mike was straight up TERRIFIED of women, point blank.
 "Terrified of women," PLEASE! I know allot of folks would like to believe so. Due to his actions on television and the way that he wants folks to believe he behaves it proves his point that he can at times manipulate the media. MJ has some doggish ways just like some other men. Wrong. He's way too much of a Momma's boy to do that, his mother raised him different than that, being a JW, he was very sexually repressed. Crotch grabbing, anyone? A reporter(a white/blond female) had visited his home to interview him. And, SHE said that he tried to put the moves on her and was very macho. This was during the time he was married to
Lisa Marie Presley. The reporter said, MJ even had the audacity to come on to her and admitted to her,"Come on, Lisa Marie is out shopping!" Dog!
Hey, I didn't make this up. Can't remember the reporters name. But, she did admit this either on fox news or some entertainment program. Hell, even i was shocked. I'm sorry, but, she more than likely made that up to make MJ look good in light of the molestation allegations against him at the time. Nice try, though. But, unfortunately for allot of folks who want to believe MJ is scared of pussy, poor guy probably gets more thrown his way than 50cent, Jay-Z, Z, Prince, Kenye West, R. Kelley, and others put together.
Yeah, right, MJ is a Mack Daddy...
Don't believe the MJ's scared of pussy hype.
Sorry, but he is
His brothers and father tried to hook him up with a hooker backstage at one of his shows back in the day. The woman walked in there, and Michael cried so hard she had to leave. He was terrified. So they kept trying. Eventually he started letting the hookers in so he could read the Bible to them. (sound familiar?) Only the stupid are STILL Prince fans. | |
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 y'all are crackin' me up!
"yeah right,MJ is a Mack Daddy" | |
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SoulAlive said: TotalAlisa said: wow I can't believe uncle mike dated someone that looks like that...Yeah,it's hard to believe he would date someone who looks like that I bet somebody else arranged that date.During that time,Mike was more interested in ladies who looked like Tatum O' Neal,lol.[Edited 9/6/07 3:23am] [Edited 9/6/07 3:25am] | |
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SoulAlive said: TotalAlisa said: wow I can't believe uncle mike dated someone that looks like that...Yeah,it's hard to believe he would date someone who looks like that I bet somebody else arranged that date.During that time,Mike was more interested in ladies who looked like Tatum O' Neal,lol.uncle mike had the most beautiful african women in his videos.... i can't believe he would want to have kids with debbie rowe |
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Confession time: I skipped right to page 8 of this thread just to see the  , but unfortunately, y'all are being civil.
Im so disappointed A happy face, A Thumpin Bass, For A Lovin' Race. PEACE. | |
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