Timmy84 said:

Well the Wizard of Oz musical is over 100 years old. Music was differnt then.

Though I guess I prefer Wicked over the rest. I think it's a better story with better songs.

fact check
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dag said:

It reminds me when he kissed Lisa Marie on MTV.

midnightmover said:

EXACTLY. This is how I always envisioned this situation over the past 30 years:

1.) Michael Jackson was a fan of Stephanie Mills' performances in "The Wiz."

2.) Andy Warhol arranged for these two to meet.

3.) Like a lot of black young ladies in the 1970s, MJ was a sex symbol/teen idol to Mills. The difference is, she got a chance not only to meet him but he admired her work.

4.) MJ stars in the big-screen version of "The Wiz," giving them another commonality.

5.) They went out a few times in public -- with Mills' crush becoming more obvious.

6.) They move on, with Mills left a little misty-eyed and somewhat heartbroken.

7.) MJ's public appearances with Brooke Shields, Tatum O'Neal's alleged connection and later MJ's two marriages led Mills to the conclusion, "He preferred white women -- that's why we never developed any chemistry."
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jn2 said:

I don't whether it's actually to do with his surgery, but's why I say the pictures you see with him and Stephanie he looks so much more relax and geniune, even though a little shy. Probably it has something to do with him looking and being natural.

Harlepolis said:

Yeah I'm not trying to knock on Judy. That girl wasn't/ain't a legend for nothing. I actually loved her mid-1950s version of "Rainbow" when she was singing it on her special in that Charlie Chaplin makeup. That girl had a lot of heart.

If you saw her E! True Hollywood Story, they actually had footage of Judy drunkenly trying to explain herself. It's sad:

Judy: And I tried my damndest to believe in the rainbow and I try to get over but I couldn't!!! SO WHAT! Lots of people can't!

It was like she was crying for help, man.

Rodya24 said:

And, why is that? Is it because he doesn't have a sextape out with him BANG! BANG! BANGIN' away ontop of some female?

Najee said:

And there it is. The whole story summed up in seven points. End of.

Najee said:

I wonder if Mike was privately upset Diane took Stephanie's role. I don't think he did but if he admired her work, I would assume he was disappointed that Ms. Ross suddenly wanted to play the role once Motown bought rights to it.

whatsgoingon said:

Maybe you want to listen to that interview again. Stephanie Mills is painting the picture that her relationship with Michael Jackson was more than some platonic, casual going-out thing.

True, Mills said she and MJ never had sex, but the fact she says that "Michael looks cute in his underwear" is one of the many inferences she made that states they were intimate enough that she saw the man damn-near naked. Of course, like several of her statements she never gives any context to HOW and WHY she saw MJ near-naked in the first place.

For instance, if some woman called my wife and said, "Najee looked so cute in his underwear" what thoughts do you think are going to run through my wife's head? Particularly if the woman never clarifies the statement ("We were in the family locker room in the YMCA and your husband came out of the sauna without a towel")? Like it or not, Mills used quite a few inferences (all without any context, and I would say deliberately) to suggest that she and MJ were more than two teen-agers who casually hanged out to drink some soda pop.
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DawnD said:

Tell me why you mad.

No, because not everybody's fully "straight" and those that claim to be are just pretending but we won't get into that.

Either bi or freaky.

ehuffnsd said:

I hear you. I would like to hear "Wicked" myself.

It's always refreshing to see how folks love MJ. They/we simply cannot keep his name outta' our mouthes. He's such a great, if not the greatest entertainer ever, ever, and ever! Love you, Mike!

DawnD said:

No I don't think it's that. I think it's just non-fans vs. MJ fans that inspire the length of these threads. Has nothing to do with no secretive love for Michael but maybe they had love for him before the "shit hit the fan", dig?

Najee said:

I listen to the interview several times. Infact when the interview first came out just before Michael's trial in 2005, I was even surprised that the interviewer asked her about Michael. She has been married twice, she has a child and she has a respectable career, therefore Michael was the last person I expected to hear her discussing. But, if you listen to the whole interview it was the presenter that brought Michael into the discussion, NOT Stephanie. I doubt Stephanie thought she was going on a radio show to talk about Michael. If you look at most interviews she does she is rarely asked about him and she doesn't offer information about him.

So to say she was "Tripping" and Michael would "never go near a black woman" I personally think that is going over the top too and so presumptious and trying to make her into some kind of Billie Jean type of character.

Najee said:

for some reason, I always thought you were female.

whatsgoingon said:

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with my previous post, nor does it matter who introduced the subject of Michael Jackson to the conversation. The thread is about Stephanie Mills' relationship with MJ -- everything else is extraneous white noise. The whole point is Mills is painting her relationship with MJ as something intimate purposely.

whatsgoingon said:

It's very clear from this post that you are deliberately covering your eyes and ears in order to preserve your fantasies. Did you even read Najee's post? I thought it was very clear yet the meaning seems to have completely passed you by. You didn't respond to a single point. Once again you're just saying irrelevant things to divert attention away. Quit playing dumb.

Timmy84 said:

I am not mad in no way, shape, form or fashion. I simply posed a question. You've made comments and I posed a question. And, just how do you know nobody is fully straight? You sound as if you've met every single person in the entire world.

DawnD said:

Nah, just human nature. Pun intended. Like I said, y'all keep on talkin', I'm just gonna get my popcorn and enjoy the fireworks. You need to ask Rodya that, not me.

midnightmover said:

ok she is lying. She barely knows him,ok and she probably accidentally saw him in his underwear..Does that satisfied you.

whatsgoingon said:

You would do well to concede and move on, because now you're to the point where you are ignoring people's responses and now you're trying to be patronizing.
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dag said:

This is the same girl who is no longer allowed near him- they found out she was a crazy bitch who lied to get near him - and she said herself in some interview that nothing sexual went on but it is known that she slept with frank tyson- MJ's friend and sort of assistant at the time (he was at the signing.

dag said:

1)lmao that just proves what i belived all along - MJ has AWFUL taste in women -AWFUL
2) She was obsessed with him and followed him everywhere- she said she never slept with him at all but it is known that she slept with frank tyson (cascio) - his PA and close friend AT THE TIME.(after lying her way into neverland)
3) Theres a restraining order on her and she is allowed no where near MJ..whatsoever -she a lunatic- notice how on her myspcae she never mentions him-ever lmfao-

soFRESHH said:

So...what do you think of LISA MARIE PRESLEY?

midnightmover said:

OH you are a joker- you love to act like you know MJ and whether he loved/liked someone or not and knew what is feelings were..- you don't...observations are okay but you make it out like it's fact when it's not. You dont know who he's loved or anything else personal about him so stop acting like you do....seriously. You don't know about his personal issues were so dont even bother with it..

soFRESHH said:

Michael Jackson did go on record saying he loved Stephanie Mills' performance in "The Wiz" -- which led to Andy Warhol introducing MJ to Mills around the time the casting for the big-screen version was enivisioned.

Najee said:

I often forget that Michael Jackson has been in show business since the late '60s. He even knew ANDY WARHOL. Wow...

Najee said:

Most probably true....but then again keep in mind you do not know MJ's personal business as much as you think you might so i dont know if one can base it on the ones (his 'women') youve seen but i wouldnt be far from suprised if that was the case.

I aint even gon talk about MJ- i cant really make a solid statement an=bout his love life and sexuality- big mystery.

soFRESHH said:

You can base it on the women with whom Michael Jackson has been publicly linked in some concept of an item, and the one commonality is that they are white women. It's part of the whole package concerning MJ's personal life. Adding hypothetical women in order to "man-up" MJ's image is insincere.
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