Most artists drop a stinker every now and then (Diamonds & Pearls anyone?) but leaving it six years to follow it up means that many of us have been left with a lingering bitter aftertaste.

I'm not an Invincible hater by any means. I like Heaven Can Wait, Speechless and YRMW as much as the next fan... but there's no denying that it was seriously below par in terms of quality control. Songs like Privacy, Cry and 2000 Watts are just utter rubbish and an embarassment to his legacy.

What I fear is that with Invincible he lost his hunger and passion for creating great music and it hardly looks as if he's brimming at the seams to get his new material out. I don't want another half-baked project which his heart isn't in - but realistically, I've lost faith that he's capable of anything more these days....
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The only thing I'm scared of is MJ's face.

Cheek said:

Funny.


Not.

MattyJam said:

Yes.

It is.

I really like Invincible. It's awesome. Break of Dawn, Heaven Can Wait, You Rock My World, Butterflies, Speechless and Whatever Happens are so awesome. I would be over the moon if he makes more songs like that. I have total faith that his new music is going to be awesome.

Are you eleven?

MattyJam said:

I understand what you mean but I'm not scared. He'll probably take harsh criticism regardless but I think MJ is more afraid than anyone.

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who thought Privacy, Cry and 2000 Watts were mediocre tracks. Not only were they fillers but dated ones at that.

I want new music from him. Period. Whether he releases brand new music, unreleased tracks, b-sides, unfinished tracks, or demos, I will be more than satisfied.

MattyJam said:

If I was eleven I would be still an MJ fan...

Cheek said:

So, you are 111 and have hearing problems -- thus explaining why you are no longer a MJ fan.

Rodya24 said:

Now that's funny!

I am not and I don´t understand why I should be.

why the excitement?

hes a product-you will get a polished slick production with a song thats not written by him and by music thats neither written nor played by him.

diamonds and pearls-a stinker?

gett off?

willing and able?

cream?

thunder?

strolling?.....you realy think these songs are"stinkers"

DarlingDiana said:

Oh, gosh! HEAVEN CAN WAIT and BUTTERFLIES are my favorite. They are sweet, yet masculine songs to me. And, NO! I'm not at all worried. Why should any of his fans be worried? What's the point? Do we want him to sell an awful lot of cds for braggin' rights? He's the individual in the studio. The pressure's on him. Again, no matter how hard an artist works one never knows if the public will accept and/or embrace their new material or not. All i can say is I truly wish him along with Janet and Madonna well on the release of their new material. The fact that they really put it down in the 80s and are still doing their thing is nothing short of an amazing feat to me.

jonylawson said:

This post proves in spades that you know little about Michael Jackson.

DawnD said:

Great songs but over the years I have a hard time believing the feelings behind the lyrics. That's my own pet peeve though.

Damn, we're being overrun with MJ threads again.

JackieBlue said:

At least there is ONLY one thread about his appearance. The rest are either about his music (including speculations about a new album) or a celebration of his birthday.

I woould love a disco album with 8 or 9 strong songs, like Get on the floor or Shake your body, but with a trendy, modern production...

the man cant even sing anymore...he sounds like he has cotton in his nose "he probably does" all the time..and at 50..what the hell is he doing with producers in their 20's ??
he's finished..get used to it people...

prettymansson said:

I disagree with your assessment that Michael Jackson cannot sing. While his singing has deteriorated due to age and a number of nose surgeries, his vocal performance on such songs as "One More Chance" and "We've Had Enough" keep me more than satisfied. Sure, he cannot sing live as he used to and he does not sound the same in the studio as he used to two decades ago, but his singing on album tracks is still cool with me.

As for working with producers in their twenties, I agree with you. But he is working with Teddy Riley again. And for the most time, their collaboration works well.
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Rodya24 said:

i love mikes fans heheh

okay-educate me-why isnt michael a "product' and please feel free to correct me9your right i know little of his music)

okay-as an example 'invicible'

how many songs did mike write?

did he produce himself?

what instruments did he play on his album?

boy-am i gonna get schooled(snigger)

jonylawson said:

Because Invincible is not his ONLY album. Also check out the album credits if you are so curious.

On a final note, check out his earlier work in the '80s and '90s and work with his brothers on Epic Records.

I don't think Michael Jackson's new album will sound like Invincible if he writes and composes half or most of the songs by himself. Michael told BBC News in 2006 that he was writing most of the album by himself.

Invincible isn't a great album, but it's not as bad most people say it is as there are some great songs on that album. The problem with Invincible is that it's over produced and sounded like a desperate attempt attract a younger audience who in 2001 liked Usher and Sisqo.

Michael Jackson used too many producers on Invincible, and even worse there was too much collaboration on songwriting/composing. The only two songs Michael wrote/composed and produced by himself were two corny ballards. I do think Michael had lost his interest in music whilst recording Invincible. It sounds like he wrote song lyrics and just gave it to other writers and producers to finish them off.

I hope Michael Jackson has learned from his mistakes on Invincible. And it's about time he produced a whole album by himself as he's a great producer. I'm sure Quincy Jones would agree with me.

MattyJam said:

I was 11yrs old when I became a Michael Jackson fan, and I'm still a fan even though I'm not a lot older than 11.

Rodya24 said:

I think Michael's singing voice is a great as it's ever been. I don't feel his singing voice has deteriorated with age.

Isolar said:

I feel that it does not sound as smooth as it used to a la Off The Wall. But you are right. I disagree with those people who feel that he cannot sing. Period.

jonylawson said:

so.....Michael wrote/co-wrote about 80% of Invincible. The album was executive produced by him and Invincible didn't have instruments
Prince fans.....

Isolar said:

Awwwww..thats so cute...! Sounds like you have great taste in music..Prince and MJ..Im impressed ! keep it up !

MattyJam said:

I think after his first son was born in 1997, he just went into a semi-retirment. If you look at his career. He just disapeared after 97' He was doing, albums, tv shows, music videos, huge tours. and then boom. In 97' it just all stoped. He dissapered all together for the first few years the late 90's Michael Jackson was no where to be seen. He showed his face here and there but that was it. He showed up in a bit in the early 00's but then he quickly went away again and has remaind so, with the exception of the trail...I think your right i don't think he has the passion he once did. For years i think the most important thing in Michael Jackson's life was his career it's all he cared about, but like so many other parets before him. once his child was born, it all stoped and everything changed. I think for the past 10 years his children (now 3 children) are his main concearn in life, and his music has taken the back seat. I feel like Invincible and the new albun are just albums for his fans. He probally feels like he owes them an album. I give credit to him though, It takes a lot of will power to just say good-bye to the most suscessful career of all times, and just go be a dad. Hats off to you Michael Jackson.

P2daP said:

Dont forget that he's the joke of the World..Im sure ANYBODY with his best interest at heart has advised him to lay low for a while and just be happy that he's not in a jail cell !
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