mistermaxxx said:

TRON was being sarcastic with the Bowie quip.


On another note, I do remember Bowie saying he initially wanted to be the sax player in Little Richard's band as a youngster.

I love The Beatles.I'm still collecting all of their CDs but I love the ones that I already have.

AaronForever said:

:K: Aaron

Overrated? Not at all.

Overdiscussed? Not on this site. 2 bad because many here who limit their lsitening 2 80's music could really learn something from these 4 guys.

Much better than the Stones, btw.

Ive noticed that there have been quite a few Beatles threads on this forum and Ive come 2 the conclusion that Prince fans envy the attention the Beatles get 32 years after they broke up, whereas Prince is alive and doesnt EVER get talked about.

Lighten up, people. Give credit where credit is due.

Cloudbuster said:

My stereo just switched 2 that cd just as I read ur post!

Magical!

AaronForever said:

Hendrix covered Beatles songs like Day Tripper, and Hendrix was friends with Ringo (Until he painted Ringo's apartemtn black and was sued by Ringo thereafter)

So Jimi gave them props 2.

After all, it was Paul who suggest that Jimi play at Monterey and that's where Jimi's popularity really took off was after that festival. He owed Paul a lot 4 that advice.

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Nep2nes said:

Neps is alluding to the fact that The Experience was firmly established on the British music scene, but almost ignored by American music fans. While it's debatable how much Jimi owes Paul (John, Ringo and George), Jimi was sufficiently pleased by SGT PEPPER'S to cover the opening riff. Thing is, Jimi had copped the riff off a demo before teh official release of the album!

LaVisHh said:

So YOU'RE the one who swiped Lennon & Harrison's testicles from the funeral parlor!

Nep2nes said:

The Beatles are more corporate than Britney Spears these days. Their catalog is milked dry and its reissue after reissue and the same old hype-fest about how brilliant they were. I mean if people back then were brainwashed into believing only one act existed you can see today that the record industry hasn't actually changed that much. Try putting The Beatles work up against Led Zeppelin's track for track and album for album, they're trounced.

I like The Beatles a lot -- they were great songwriters who released timeless albums.

That said, I am almost entirely unimpressed by Elvis' music, and I cannot understand why anyone feels that The Beach Boys even merit discussion.
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WildheartXXX said:

maybe in terms of pure sonic output but Zep's song craftmanship doesn't hold a candle to Lennon & McCartney; or even Harrison!

WildheartXXX said:

That's another bananas/watermelons comparison though. Two different types of aesthetics and different types of bands. A lot of people would say both bands are overplayed on radio, considering you can't listen to a Classic Rock format that doesn't play either one, nor an oldies station that doesn't play the Beatles. I like both groups for different reasons. But a lot of fans of both consider Zep the Beatles of hard rock.


Cut me...
[This message was edited Tue Oct 8 15:23:32 PDT 2002 by Supernova]

Apparently someone thinking George Harrison was cute makes them the authority on all things Beatles.
'I Saw Her Standing There?' You've got to be kidding me.

FreezerBurn said:

Well it was their best pastiche of 50s r&b form like you'd see in LITTLE RICHARD or CHUCK BERRY. Beatles added a lot of their own stuff to it and it was key for its time, but their later stuff from REVOLVER,SGT PEPPER'S etc is much, much better.

BTW this was Lennon/McCArtney; not Harrison.

PFunkjazz said:

Sooo true...their ability to craft a song and melody was truly amazing...

wellbeyond said:

But Led Zep was able to make good LPs without having to rely on tons of additionnal musicians, arrangers, producers and calling Bernard Purdie to replace the drummer ...

ChimChimBadass said:

Ahhh, the legend of Pretty Purdie...

ChimChimBadass said:

That's neither here nor there. We could ding Led Zep for a lot of outright plagirism that sparked their career. Vis-a-vis Willie Dixon's suit aginst page & Plant for transferring "You Need Love" into "Whole Lotta Love".

Honestly, none of this diminishes either band's musical legacy, but if one of you like Led Zep more than the Beatles, then that is how it is. I just think it's flat out ridiculous to pick one over the other for the exact reason Suppenova states.

PFunkjazz said:

Ahhh but Led Zeppelin's "covers" were so vastly different compared to the originals, you wouldn't even know they were the same songs. They turned all those covers into something of their own, and they only did the covers for the most part on their first two albums. The Beatles just played straight covers and zep's original material was far superior on their earlier albums. not to mention pretty darn groundbreaking.but who gets props?!..The Beatles. OVERRATED!

WildheartXXX said:

OK if you say so.

I'm really bored by this topic

See ya later

Excellent musicians, singers, songwriters and performers. I think they've saturated the hype so much they aren't hip anymore and people find them overrated. They wrote 100's of lame pop songs but they also wrote 100's of crazy, cutting edge songs like "She's So Heavy" which may be the first metal song and "I Am the Walrus." They could do it all. Even Earth Wind and Fire covered "Got To Get You Into My Life." The Beatles deserve all the credit they get. Although I'm probably a bigger Stones fan, the Beatles were the leaders. They wrote Let It Be, the Stones come back with Let It Bleed. If anyone gets a chance to see McCartney's tour definitely go. It was 3 hours long and truly amazing.

Ya know I just watched "A Hard Day's Night", I saw that movie when it first came out, I still love the simplicity of The Beatles...

I guess I will always be a Beatle's fan, truly it was a very fun time in my life, and my friends as well. And I was fortunate to have been a part of that, not just hearing about it from my parents, but being there. Collecting Beatles paraphenalia. I had a wonderful collection of cards, earrings, pens, cake toppers, magazines, records..

Seeing them still gave me a chill. The sad part was realizing that George and John are in rock n' roll heaven..

WildheartXXX said:

PFunk isn't talking about Zep's obvious covers, he's talking about Zep's theft.

But what they did MUSICALLY with that theft was very interesting.

Supernova said:

This woman reads my words and understands me.

the beatles were very important to the rock scene.

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Funny, I think both The Beatles and Led Zepplin are overrated. But if I had to choose, I would definitely take the Beatles.

WildheartXXX said:

Studio trickery? You say it like it's a bad thing - the feedback, the double-tracking, the samples - all things that are standard for most bands were pioneered by the Beatles. Most bands were still recording live in the studio in the '60s. Come on, they quit touring! That was unheard of!

Every rock band talks about maturing and expanding their sound - big deal. The Beatles started that. Before them, everybody (yes, I know what Miles and Trane were doing in the '60s, and I am speaking on a mainstream rock level) was perfectly happy to keep writing the same song over and over.

Before the Beatles, nobody really pushed LPs as complete works, except maybe Frank Sinatra. Sure, the Beatles released revolutionary singles as well, but Sgt. Pepper's? The White Album? Who did these guys think they were?

Before the Beatles, there were love songs, and there were nonsense/fun songs. The Beatles turned song lyrics into poetry. Bands like The Doors, R.E.M. and Nirvana wouldn't have been able to get away with half the crap they pulled lyrically if it weren't for the Beatles turning mainstream music on its ear.

'Tomorrow Never Knows' is still 30 years ahead of its time.

To say the Beatles are overrated is to deny their impact in modern music. The Stones, Led Zep and Jimi owe their careers to the Beatles, because they followed the path the Fab Four blazed right into history.

I have recently come to the conclusion that the Beatles made four truly great albums that will probably be talked about forever.

Revolver
Sgt.Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
The Beatles
Abbey Road

Every home should have these albums.

I think what is really astonishing is that these albums were all so incredibly different and yet released in very quick succesion. Within three years i believe. You just don't get bands these days working at that pace and delivering such varied results. THAT was their genius.

Overrated,
Never!

I was about to post "How could you forget The White Album!" when I saw "The Beatles" is how you refer to it. I seldom hear it called anything but The White Album. Difference in area or age maybe.