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Reply #60 posted 08/31/07 7:17am

PurpleCharm

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I bought the vibe magazine yesterday and they have a picture of Papa Debarge
he's white man and Chico stated that their father sexually molested his sons and daughter sad

he seems to think that's why Boby was so messed up


No wonder nothing is ever mentioned of him. I'm surprised they discussed him in the article. Do you know if he's still alive?
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Reply #61 posted 08/31/07 7:33am

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PurpleCharm said:

banks said:

I bought the vibe magazine yesterday and they have a picture of Papa Debarge
he's white man and Chico stated that their father sexually molested his sons and daughter sad

he seems to think that's why Boby was so messed up


No wonder nothing is ever mentioned of him. I'm surprised they discussed him in the article. Do you know if he's still alive?



yes... he's alive
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Reply #62 posted 08/31/07 7:42am

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Reply #63 posted 08/31/07 8:01am

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What was Bobby's sexuality? I am just curious because he dated Latoya at one time.

So when did Mama Debarage leave her husband?
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Reply #64 posted 08/31/07 8:11am

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PurpleCharm said:

JackieBlue said:

I really thought they were a pretty clean cut family. I remember being surprised by the lyrics El was singing on the songs he did with DJ Quik. I couldn't imagine him doing that sort of material even though I liked the songs.

I never knew he collaborated with DJ Quik. What was he saying on the song?



Here’s the clean version of Hand in Hand. In hindsight it's not so bad but at the time I was like eek On the recorded version El is say p*ssy not nana as the online lyrics show lol

Playas get they paper when they game is tight
and if you want some nana that's for you to decide
But as long as you ain't simpin' then ya doin' it right
'cause together they go hand in hand Oh yeah


http://www.youtube.com/wa...DIJzJZfw00



Then he was on some song with Quick, Snoop and Nate Dogg called Medley for a “V” (The P*ssy). lol
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Reply #65 posted 08/31/07 8:12am

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whatsgoingon said:

What was Bobby's sexuality? I am just curious because he dated Latoya at one time.

So when did Mama Debarage leave her husband?



I'm wondering if they had 10 kids...when did she find out that he was molesting them? After they were all grown? sad
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Reply #66 posted 08/31/07 8:20am

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whatsgoingon said:

What was Bobby's sexuality? I am just curious because he dated Latoya at one time.

So when did Mama Debarage leave her husband?



The magazine stated when they divorced, i just don't have it handy right now
I believe that Bobby was Straight and contracted Aids from sharing needles
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Reply #67 posted 08/31/07 8:21am

PurpleCharm

banks said:

PurpleCharm said:



No wonder nothing is ever mentioned of him. I'm surprised they discussed him in the article. Do you know if he's still alive?



yes... he's alive

thanks
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Reply #68 posted 08/31/07 8:22am

Timmy84

banks said:

whatsgoingon said:

What was Bobby's sexuality? I am just curious because he dated Latoya at one time.

So when did Mama Debarage leave her husband?



The magazine stated when they divorced, i just don't have it handy right now
I believe that Bobby was Straight and contracted Aids from sharing needles


Yeah I was about to say I think Bobby contracted AIDS through an infected needle he was using, I think, after he was released from jail.

And yeah their father was an asshole from what I heard. I think that her kids DID tell her that he abused them after they were older. sad
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Reply #69 posted 08/31/07 8:24am

PurpleCharm

JackieBlue said:

whatsgoingon said:

What was Bobby's sexuality? I am just curious because he dated Latoya at one time.

So when did Mama Debarage leave her husband?



I'm wondering if they had 10 kids...when did she find out that he was molesting them? After they were all grown? sad


Yeah, I'm wondering the same thing. sad

Thanks for the info on the song El did with DJ Quik. I never knew that was El singing on that song.
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Reply #70 posted 08/31/07 8:24am

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JackieBlue said:

whatsgoingon said:

What was Bobby's sexuality? I am just curious because he dated Latoya at one time.

So when did Mama Debarage leave her husband?



I'm wondering if they had 10 kids...when did she find out that he was molesting them? After they were all grown? sad



well she didn't speak on it... Chico mentioned it... he remarried and started another family... when asked about the accusations he denied it... when bunny was told of his denial she laughed... go figure.. that family is messed up....
El has 10 kids according to Bunny... he started at 14
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Reply #71 posted 08/31/07 8:28am

Timmy84

So was their racial makeup African-American (mother, OBVIOUSLY) and French Canadian (as Wikipedia likes to say)?
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Reply #72 posted 08/31/07 8:29am

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banks said:

JackieBlue said:




I'm wondering if they had 10 kids...when did she find out that he was molesting them? After they were all grown? sad



well she didn't speak on it... Chico mentioned it... he remarried and started another family... when asked about the accusations he denied it... when bunny was told of his denial she laughed... go figure.. that family is messed up....
El has 10 kids according to Bunny... he started at 14


disbelief
As for the father’s denial... does any sexual predator who is not already behind bars ever admit to doing wrong? Very rarely.
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Reply #73 posted 08/31/07 8:29am

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banks said:

JackieBlue said:




I'm wondering if they had 10 kids...when did she find out that he was molesting them? After they were all grown? sad



well she didn't speak on it... Chico mentioned it... he remarried and started another family... when asked about the accusations he denied it... when bunny was told of his denial she laughed... go figure.. that family is messed up....
El has 10 kids according to Bunny... he started at 14

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Reply #74 posted 08/31/07 8:30am

PurpleCharm

Timmy84 said:

So was their racial makeup African-American (mother, OBVIOUSLY) and French Canadian (as Wikipedia likes to say)?

I read that their father was Italian.
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Reply #75 posted 08/31/07 8:30am

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But on a better note, El and Chico are both working on new albums, El's been holed up in a studio with Babyface and Chico is here in NYC working on his cd
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Reply #76 posted 08/31/07 8:32am

Timmy84

PurpleCharm said:

Timmy84 said:

So was their racial makeup African-American (mother, OBVIOUSLY) and French Canadian (as Wikipedia likes to say)?

I read that their father was Italian.


Hmm, you know what? Judging from their features and curly hair (most of them), I wouldn't be surprised if they were half-Italian! I mean, where does the name DeBarge originate from?
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Reply #77 posted 08/31/07 8:33am

Timmy84

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But on a better note, El and Chico are both working on new albums, El's been holed up in a studio with Babyface and Chico is here in NYC working on his cd


So that's what Chico was talking about when he said "the story's not over with us", huh?

Good looking out. smile

Music needs to be their savior. I'd hate for any of them to get in any more trouble than they already are. Someone needs to keep Eldra and Chico and the rest of 'em on the straight and narrow, man.
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Reply #78 posted 08/31/07 8:33am

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Timmy84 said:

So was their racial makeup African-American (mother, OBVIOUSLY) and French Canadian (as Wikipedia likes to say)?




The vibe article stated that they are Bi-racial and not Hispanic as people have said... mother is black father is Italian
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Reply #79 posted 08/31/07 8:38am

Timmy84

banks said:

Timmy84 said:

So was their racial makeup African-American (mother, OBVIOUSLY) and French Canadian (as Wikipedia likes to say)?




The vibe article stated that they are Bi-racial and not Hispanic as people have said... mother is black father is Italian


Yeah I knew they were at least half-Black so ok, they ARE half-Italian... that explains everything. Why did everybody and they mama assume they were Hispanic? lol Because of the names "El" and "Chico"? lol

Chico's real name is Jonathan DeBarge. lol
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Reply #80 posted 08/31/07 8:38am

Timmy84

Shit, even Diana Ross' brother Wilbert calls himself "Chico". falloff
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Reply #81 posted 08/31/07 8:41am

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Last I heard Chico was appearing in that Wendy Williams movie. For a brief time I heard he was seeing Nona Gaye. Don't know if it's true but there was concern because there was word that she was messin' with that stuff again. neutral
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Reply #82 posted 08/31/07 8:43am

Timmy84

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Last I heard Chico was appearing in that Wendy Williams movie. For a brief time I heard he was seeing Nona Gaye. Don't know if it's true but there was concern because there was word that she was messin' with that stuff again. neutral


I heard the rumor too and I just hope to God Nona ain't back on the stuff. She has a 10-year-old to think about! sad
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Reply #83 posted 08/31/07 9:05am

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Timmy84 said:

banks said:

But on a better note, El and Chico are both working on new albums, El's been holed up in a studio with Babyface and Chico is here in NYC working on his cd


So that's what Chico was talking about when he said "the story's not over with us", huh?

Good looking out. smile

Music needs to be their savior. I'd hate for any of them to get in any more trouble than they already are. Someone needs to keep Eldra and Chico and the rest of 'em on the straight and narrow, man.




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Reply #84 posted 08/31/07 12:39pm

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.. that family is messed up....
El has 10 kids according to Bunny... he started at 14



eek eek eek WTF??? 14??
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Reply #85 posted 08/31/07 12:58pm

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whatsgoingon said:

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katherine had 10 kids also, marlon's twin died soon after birth. and Mama DeBarge is 71
[Edited 8/30/07 21:53pm]


I know Katherine had 10 children but only 9 of them grew up and inspite of everything all 9 are still alive today.

it doesn't matter, he still existed



and didn't bobby die in the mid 90's..
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Reply #86 posted 08/31/07 2:17pm

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Timmy84 said:

So was their racial makeup African-American (mother, OBVIOUSLY) and French Canadian (as Wikipedia likes to say)?




The vibe article stated that they are Bi-racial and not Hispanic as people have said... mother is black father is Italian


Italian hmm? DeBarge is a French surname. It's not Italian in the least. Not one to encourage gambling, but I'd lay my money on the father being of French ancestry lurking
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Reply #87 posted 08/31/07 2:17pm

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Timmy84 said:

banks said:




The magazine stated when they divorced, i just don't have it handy right now
I believe that Bobby was Straight and contracted Aids from sharing needles


Yeah I was about to say I think Bobby contracted AIDS through an infected needle he was using, I think, after he was released from jail.

And yeah their father was an asshole from what I heard. I think that her kids DID tell her that he abused them after they were older. sad



While stationed at the National Naval Hospital in Bethesda MD one of the guys also stationed there claimed to be Greg Williams cousin told me that Bobby was gay (which I found hard to believe) He also told me that He met Janet when she came to Grand Rapids and she was indeed pregnate.and how they (he james and chico) would leave Janet at the home of Ms Debarge while they went out got with other girls and got high. This was told to me back in 1994-1995 How true it is I can't tell you.
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Reply #88 posted 08/31/07 2:42pm

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On her myspace there's a really intense audio recording of her testimony as given during a church service eek , she admits she was high the ENTIRE time they had a music career. She said she started out as a teeneger being a flower child doing the drugs associated with that, but once they got famous she did everything under the sun, eventually ended up on heroin sad


Wow! That's so sad. sad

I wonder what she means by flower child. Wasn't the whole "flower child" thing in the 60's? She would have been grown with children by that time.


I think she used that adjective in reference to the drugs she started using initially, you know, the ones associated with that flower power time period. She started in her mid teens with weed, acid, and magic mushrooms. Once the group formed and became sucessful she graduated to everything she could get her hands on and said she was high all the time to deaden memories of her childhood; she did speed, downers, freebased cocaine, then eventually she started smoking heroin (which she pronounces 'her-ron'). In her testimony to the church she said her mother would see her on tv and constantly ask her if she was drunk or high and she would always lie and say she was just tired. It was so sad to listen to, even though she's about 50 her voice still has the timbre of a shy teenage girl who's not quite sure of herself. I was very touched to listen to her story. I remembered being at an autograph signing with Debarge when I was maybe 12 or 13, I have polaroids of me with Bunny, she was the most gorgeous thing in the world to me then, I guess because she was so nice to all the kids in the crowd. I remember she spent most of the time behind the cash counter smoking cigarettes and talking to the kids, and when she would step from behind you could see she was wearing pink houseshoes, with that ever present cigarette in one hand while she would sign stuff with the other... cool ....

This thread got me in the mood to listen to old Debarge cuts in the taxi today: GAWD they were good. Makes a person feel sad for all their suffering. If it's one thing I can't stand is a bully or an abuser...so easy for them to pick on children and then the kids grow up all f***** up disbelief
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Reply #89 posted 08/31/07 2:57pm

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Timmy84 said:



Yeah I was about to say I think Bobby contracted AIDS through an infected needle he was using, I think, after he was released from jail.

And yeah their father was an asshole from what I heard. I think that her kids DID tell her that he abused them after they were older. sad



While stationed at the National Naval Hospital in Bethesda MD one of the guys also stationed there claimed to be Greg Williams cousin told me that Bobby was gay (which I found hard to believe) He also told me that He met Janet when she came to Grand Rapids and she was indeed pregnate.and how they (he james and chico) would leave Janet at the home of Ms Debarge while they went out got with other girls and got high. This was told to me back in 1994-1995 How true it is I can't tell you.


Didn't the Debarge family use to live next doors to The Jacksons I guess that how that's how Janet met James, and Latoya met Bobby.
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