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Printableprettymansson said:[quote] Rodya24 said: prettymansson said: People have lives outside of thinking and talking about Michael Jackson. Perhaps you do not. On a final note, perhaps you should read the court transcripts before forming an opinion based on watching CNN -- mainstream media at its most idiotic. Dont make a fool out of yourself little newbie..You dont know me and you sound FULLY ignorant assuming that i have nothing better to do than talk about michael jackson...Please... And, My mentioning CNN was in response to this comment from you : I am he is a joke to you and a number of other people. But not to me and others. Most people (Asia, Africa, and several countries in South America and Europe) in the world were not bombarded with coverage of the 2005 trial My point to you was simply that you are wrong I was on tour traveling the world during the trial and i saw all the michael jackson news that my mom was seeing back in America....In newspapers..on TV...ect... Calm yourself down if you plan to stay around here .. Its not cute.   Here in central Europe the trial was all over the media for many weeks, so we were bombarded with it as well.With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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mdiver said: So you would be fine with your kids staying in his bed then? I wouldn't let my kids stay in your bed either. Does that make you a pedophile? | |
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smoothoperator said: mdiver said: So you would be fine with your kids staying in his bed then? I wouldn't let my kids stay in your bed either. Does that make you a pedophile?  No what makes people a paedophile is fiddling with kiddies. There is a history with him of allegation after allegation and a hisory of paying people for their silence. Whichever way you cut it that paints a dangerous picture, however no such allegations or history surround me and everyone that KNOWS me has no problem with me being around their children.
Your diversionary tactic shows you up as ridiculous. | |
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mdiver said: smoothoperator said: I wouldn't let my kids stay in your bed either. Does that make you a pedophile? No what makes people a paedophile is fiddling with kiddies. There is a history with him of allegation after allegation and a hisory of paying people for their silence. Whichever way you cut it that paints a dangerous picture, however no such allegations or history surround me and everyone that KNOWS me has no problem with me being around their children.
Your diversionary tactic shows you up as ridiculous. The point I was trying to make is that you can't label someone a pedophile solely based on of whether or not you would let your child sleep in that person's bed. Allegations or no allegations I wouldn't let my kid sleep in anyone's bed. But that doesn't make every single person in the world a pedophile. The whole MJ must be a pedophile because none of us would let our kids sleep in his bed argument is bull IMO. Anyway I've seen how these threads usually turn out so I'm done. It was nice talking to you. I'm out. | |
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i was a huge fan until 1990
after i saw that "you are not alone" video i was so turned off...im a big exfan now. | |
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electrorock said: i was a huge fan until 1990
after i saw that "you are not alone" video i was so turned off...im a big exfan now. I am assuming you are also not a fan of his album Dangerous (it came out in 1991)? The "You Are Not Alone" music video is his worst, up there with the first part of "Black Or White," the second part of "Jam," and "You Rock My World." Other than that, I think his music videos range from average to good to great fun to fantastic to groundbreaking. | |
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smoothoperator said: mdiver said: No what makes people a paedophile is fiddling with kiddies. There is a history with him of allegation after allegation and a hisory of paying people for their silence. Whichever way you cut it that paints a dangerous picture, however no such allegations or history surround me and everyone that KNOWS me has no problem with me being around their children.
Your diversionary tactic shows you up as ridiculous. The point I was trying to make is that you can't label someone a pedophile solely based on of whether or not you would let your child sleep in that person's bed. Allegations or no allegations I wouldn't let my kid sleep in anyone's bed. But that doesn't make every single person in the world a pedophile. The whole MJ must be a pedophile because none of us would let our kids sleep in his bed argument is bull IMO. Anyway I've seen how these threads usually turn out so I'm done. It was nice talking to you. I'm out. No but it is a damn good indicator of feelings on an issue.  | |
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Rodya24 said: electrorock said: i was a huge fan until 1990
after i saw that "you are not alone" video i was so turned off...im a big exfan now. I am assuming you are also not a fan of his album Dangerous (it came out in 1991)? The "You Are Not Alone" music video is his worst, up there with the first part of "Black Or White," the second part of "Jam," and "You Rock My World." Other than that, I think his music videos range from average to good to great fun to fantastic to groundbreaking. "black or white" sucked same as "jam". "you rock my world" was smooth criminal video second part. absurd! hes been making the same dancing move routines but worse over theyears. he is stiff and he is overdoing some moves to the point he has a hunch back. the whole autopromotion of calling himself "the king of pop" made me deny i was a fan | |
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electrorock said: Rodya24 said: I am assuming you are also not a fan of his album Dangerous (it came out in 1991)? The "You Are Not Alone" music video is his worst, up there with the first part of "Black Or White," the second part of "Jam," and "You Rock My World." Other than that, I think his music videos range from average to good to great fun to fantastic to groundbreaking. "black or white" sucked same as "jam". "you rock my world" was smooth criminal video second part. absurd! hes been making the same dancing move routines but worse over theyears. he is stiff and he is overdoing some moves to the point he has a hunch back. the whole autopromotion of calling himself "the king of pop" made me deny i was a fan I disagree with most of your comments. But we can agree to disagree. 
He had an accident during one of his MJ and Friends concerts, and fell on his back. Since then, he has been suffering from chronic back pains. | |
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Rodya24 said: electrorock said: "black or white" sucked same as "jam". "you rock my world" was smooth criminal video second part. absurd! hes been making the same dancing move routines but worse over theyears. he is stiff and he is overdoing some moves to the point he has a hunch back. the whole autopromotion of calling himself "the king of pop" made me deny i was a fan I disagree with most of your comments. But we can agree to disagree.
He had an accident during one of his MJ and Friends concerts, and fell on his back. Since then, he has been suffering from chronic back pains. oh i didnt know that happened back then. i thought that was around 98. | |
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electrorock said: Rodya24 said: I disagree with most of your comments. But we can agree to disagree.
He had an accident during one of his MJ and Friends concerts, and fell on his back. Since then, he has been suffering from chronic back pains. oh i didnt know that happened back then. i thought that was around 98. I believe so. It was quite a nasty accident. He fell.... | |
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Rodya24 said: electrorock said: oh i didnt know that happened back then. i thought that was around 98. I believe so. It was quite a nasty accident. He fell....  So that explains why he is soo stiff & has that Hunchback. I really worry about how he will even move 10 years from now.  | |
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mdiver said: smoothoperator said: I wouldn't let my kids stay in your bed either. Does that make you a pedophile? No what makes people a paedophile is fiddling with kiddies. There is a history with him of allegation after allegation and a hisory of paying people for their silence. Whichever way you cut it that paints a dangerous picture, however no such allegations or history surround me and everyone that KNOWS me has no problem with me being around their children.
Your diversionary tactic shows you up as ridiculous. There is no "allegation after allegation"! There was one allegation in '93 (the Chandler's) and in the wake of that a former housekeeper of Michael thought she could ride on the Chandler's coattails and claimed that her son also got molested a couple years erlier (Blanca Francia, the same woman who sold her story to the tabloids)! The Chandler's case got settled out of court, as the civil action would have happened before the criminal action! And since the "big" allegation got settled, the "smaller" allegation got settled as well at the same time! And who could blame Michael! That shit burdened his life and career for half a year already, with no knowing of what the outcome would be! The insurance company (insurance on Neverland) paid for the settlement (the term used was "neglience" at his home) and he could resume his life! Other than that there has only been Sneddon claiming that more boys got molested, but all of them (Culkin, Robson and Barnes) denied that anything has ever happened! They even testified for Michael in the trial! The rest was unfounded tabloid bullshit anyway... and people talking out of their ass, people who had no idea what they were talking about! No allegation surfaced until Sneddon approached the Arvizo's in '03! And nothing would have happened if Michael wouldn't have decided to present Gavin Arvizo to the world in the Bashir documentary in the first place! And again, in the wake of the Arvizo case, some nut thought he could ride on the Arvizo's coattail! But that guy was so crazy that not even Sneddon believed him! And despite his casting call for "victims" at the initial press conference no other "victim" surfaced! Even Jordan Chandler refused to take part! | |
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PatrickS77 said: mdiver said: No what makes people a paedophile is fiddling with kiddies. There is a history with him of allegation after allegation and a hisory of paying people for their silence. Whichever way you cut it that paints a dangerous picture, however no such allegations or history surround me and everyone that KNOWS me has no problem with me being around their children.
Your diversionary tactic shows you up as ridiculous. There is no "allegation after allegation"! There was one allegation in '93 (the Chandler's) and in the wake of that a former housekeeper of Michael thought she could ride on the Chandler's coattails and claimed that her son also got molested a couple years erlier (Blanca Francia, the same woman who sold her story to the tabloids)! The Chandler's case got settled out of court, as the civil action would have happened before the criminal action! And since the "big" allegation got settled, the "smaller" allegation got settled as well at the same time! And who could blame Michael! That shit burdened his life and career for half a year already, with no knowing of what the outcome would be! The insurance company (insurance on Neverland) paid for the settlement (the term used was "neglience" at his home) and he could resume his life! Other than that there has only been Sneddon claiming that more boys got molested, but all of them (Culkin, Robson and Barnes) denied that anything has ever happened! They even testified for Michael in the trial! The rest was unfounded tabloid bullshit anyway... and people talking out of their ass, people who had no idea what they were talking about! No allegation surfaced until Sneddon approached the Arvizo's in '03! And nothing would have happened if Michael wouldn't have decided to present Gavin Arvizo to the world in the Bashir documentary in the first place! And again, in the wake of the Arvizo case, some nut thought he could ride on the Arvizo's coattail! But that guy was so crazy that not even Sneddon believed him! And despite his casting call for "victims" at the initial press conference no other "victim" surfaced! Even Jordan Chandler refused to take part! Dude, I agree with you on all points. But let us not hijack this thread and turn it into a discussion over whether or not Michael Jackson is a child molester. Trust me. Others (the same individuals most of the time) will come in here, and bombard you with questions. The hilarious thing is that none of these people have read the court transcripts and leaked documents. What they know are from the Martin Bashir interview and the mainstream media. For them ignorance is bliss.... | |
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Rodya24 said: Dude, I agree with you on all points. But let us not hijack this thread and turn it into a discussion over whether or not Michael Jackson is a child molester. Trust me. Others (the same individuals most of the time) will come in here, and bombard you with questions. The hilarious thing is that none of these people have read the court transcripts and leaked documents. What they know are from the Martin Bashir interview and the mainstream media. For them ignorance is bliss.... Yeah, I know what you mean! But it gets me mad when some idiots, who clearly haven't followed this whole thing, say that there have been countless allegations and pay offs! That's simply not true and the few things that happened are all connected! | |
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PatrickS77 said: Rodya24 said: Dude, I agree with you on all points. But let us not hijack this thread and turn it into a discussion over whether or not Michael Jackson is a child molester. Trust me. Others (the same individuals most of the time) will come in here, and bombard you with questions. The hilarious thing is that none of these people have read the court transcripts and leaked documents. What they know are from the Martin Bashir interview and the mainstream media. For them ignorance is bliss.... Yeah, I know what you mean! But it gets me mad when some idiots, who clearly haven't followed this whole thing, say that there have been countless allegations and pay offs! That's simply not true and the few things that happened are all connected! Same here. I have realized that what I can do in response to these people is to direct them to the court transcripts and leaked documents. The sad thing is that the same people who come into these threads accusing Micheal Jackson of being a child molester do not take the time to read the documents, but spend so much time on this forum talking about Michael! Whatever you write in your posts will be perceived as the ramblings of a fanatic. So do not bother to waste your time -- I have learned the hard way. Just tell them to read the documents for themselves since they think we are raving mad. | |
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S'like a loony bin in here  | |
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mdiver said: S'like a loony bin in here
Proves my above comments. Thanks. | |
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Rodya24 said: mdiver said: S'like a loony bin in here
Proves my above comments. Thanks. Yeah coz y'all are way balanced with the MJ is God shit and he can do no wrong. You trying to tell me that he is a balanced well formed member of society. Bullshit if he wasn't MJ his ass would have been nailed to the mast | |
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mdiver said: Rodya24 said: Proves my above comments. Thanks. Yeah coz y'all are way balanced with the MJ is God shit and he can do no wrong. You trying to tell me that he is a balanced well formed member of society. Bullshit if he wasn't MJ his ass would have been nailed to the mast  Awesome!
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Rodya24 said: Same here. I have realized that what I can do in response to these people is to direct them to the court transcripts and leaked documents. The sad thing is that the same people who come into these threads accusing Micheal Jackson of being a child molester do not take the time to read the documents, but spend so much time on this forum talking about Michael! Whatever you write in your posts will be perceived as the ramblings of a fanatic. So do not bother to waste your time -- I have learned the hard way. Just tell them to read the documents for themselves since they think we are raving mad.
Yes, but those idiots think they know it all and only believe what they want to believe! And if people, who clearly have more knowledge about the issue, come to the conlusion that Michael might be innocent after all, their only response is mdiver said: S'like a loony bin in here
Rodya24 said: mdiver said: S'like a loony bin in here
Proves my above comments. Thanks. LOL mdiver said: Rodya24 said: Proves my above comments. Thanks. Yeah coz y'all are way balanced with the MJ is God shit and he can do no wrong. You trying to tell me that he is a balanced well formed member of society. Bullshit if he wasn't MJ his ass would have been nailed to the mast You're the only one talking about God! If Michael would be God he obviously wouldn't have gotten himself into this mess he got himself into! | |
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PatrickS77 said: Rodya24 said: Same here. I have realized that what I can do in response to these people is to direct them to the court transcripts and leaked documents. The sad thing is that the same people who come into these threads accusing Micheal Jackson of being a child molester do not take the time to read the documents, but spend so much time on this forum talking about Michael! Whatever you write in your posts will be perceived as the ramblings of a fanatic. So do not bother to waste your time -- I have learned the hard way. Just tell them to read the documents for themselves since they think we are raving mad.
Yes, but those idiots think they know it all and only believe what they want to believe! And if people, who clearly have more knowledge about the issue, come to the conlusion that Michael might be innocent after all, their only response is Yeah coz y'all are way balanced with the MJ is God shit and he can do no wrong. You trying to tell me that he is a balanced well formed member of society. Bullshit if he wasn't MJ his ass would have been nailed to the mast You're the only one talking about God! If Michael would be God he obviously wouldn't have gotten himself into this mess he got himself into![/quote] You crowd should listen to yourselves | |
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PatrickS77 said: Rodya24 said: Same here. I have realized that what I can do in response to these people is to direct them to the court transcripts and leaked documents. The sad thing is that the same people who come into these threads accusing Micheal Jackson of being a child molester do not take the time to read the documents, but spend so much time on this forum talking about Michael! Whatever you write in your posts will be perceived as the ramblings of a fanatic. So do not bother to waste your time -- I have learned the hard way. Just tell them to read the documents for themselves since they think we are raving mad.
Yes, but those idiots think they know it all and only believe what they want to believe! And if people, who clearly have more knowledge about the issue, come to the conlusion that Michael might be innocent after all, their only response is Yeah coz y'all are way balanced with the MJ is God shit and he can do no wrong. You trying to tell me that he is a balanced well formed member of society. Bullshit if he wasn't MJ his ass would have been nailed to the mast You're the only one talking about God! If Michael would be God he obviously wouldn't have gotten himself into this mess he got himself into![/quote] PatrickS77: Don't feed the trolls! Do the banana dance with me! | |
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mdiver said: PatrickS77 said: You're the only one talking about God! If Michael would be God he obviously wouldn't have gotten himself into this mess he got himself into! You crowd should listen to yourselvesAwesome! | |
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Rodya24 said: PatrickS77 said: You're the only one talking about God! If Michael would be God he obviously wouldn't have gotten himself into this mess he got himself into! PatrickS77: Don't feed the trolls! Do the banana dance with me! Okay! | |
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