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Reply #60 posted 08/22/07 2:48pm

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I always dance to it out of rythym & with an over-bite.
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Reply #61 posted 08/22/07 6:22pm

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2elijah said:

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If you played some funk, they would look at you crazy also. That's because shit hop has dominated R&B radio for so long that those kids were born into it and know nothing else. I had lived through various style changes that lasted about five years in R&B music in my lifetime such as The Motown Sound when I was born, the early 70s soulful sound, the late 70s disco sound, the early 80s funk sound, the late 80s crossover sound (that's when things first started fucking up), the house music sound of the late 80s/very early 90s, and finally the shit hop sound of the early 90s to the present. If a child was born in the early 90s, he or she was born into the shit hop sound and has never seen a style change in his entire lifetime. By the time I was 15, I had seen probably about four style changes.

It's the white owned record labels merging and radio stations monopolized that have kept this shit hop alive by keeping every thing else
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I have to agree with you vain. It was nice back in those days when there were various style changes in music, and as you mentioned back in the 80s - 90s when the rap/hip hop dominated the music industry and record labels still trying to keep it there today, some of these youngsters really have missed out on some good music. Now I noticed that a lot of them are just getting into Nu-Wave, Electronica and what they call Neo-Soul which to me Neo-Soul just seems to be another name for R&B;but yeah, black artists/musicians that are into rock and electronica/Nu-Wave, get very little radio airplay from Black or White stations.[Edited 8/22/07 11:42am]


That's because if those genre ever caught on, they would be more expensive to make than shit hop is. Record labels and radio stations aren't about to jeopardize making a smaller profit. It's about business only these days. They don't give a damn about music whatsoever. And if it degrades black people and makes them look like ignorant fools, well, that just makes the rich white men making money off it even more happy.
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Reply #62 posted 08/22/07 8:55pm

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2elijah said:

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See, that's the thing I noticed too. More older forms of music created by Blacks have more of a white audience now. Blues, Jazz, Classic Rock, hell even Ska now!


I agree, white audiences seem to be more explorative when it comes to checking out various styles of music.


I listen to everything from Prince to Led Zeppelin to Muddy Waters to Frank Sinatra to Count Basie to Merle Haggard to the Staple Singers to the Clash. When white people find out I listen to say, Pearl Jam, that's usually cool by them. But I've had fellow blacks tell me "You SHOULDN'T like that kind of music !" , as if you were some sort of race traitor by listening to something outside of a defined little box
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Reply #63 posted 08/22/07 10:38pm

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vainandy said:



I don't know. I don't listen to classical music and never have. I just know it was a type of music we always used to make fun of growing up when we heard it and it always seemed to be extremely slow, dull, and boring.

Most folks don't listen to classical and especially not these kids today. However, classical music is still stereotyped as the slowest most nerdy and dorky music that most people don't want people to think they listen to. That's why I use it as an insult for these folks that like today's music because it's damn rediculous that the little dull asses making music these days refuse to make something fast. I'm for real, it's fucking rediculous. I've never seen such boring times in my life.

Oh I fully agree. I can't believe the crap people my age are so willing to gobble up.

Believe me, you have listened to classical, and probably loved it too. It's so pervasive that most people not familiar with it don't even know it when they're hearing it. A lot of modern music over the years has borrowed bits and pieces of arrangements, and sometimes entire symphonies and claimed them as their own. The two pieces I mentioned especially are everywhere. Commercials, cartoons, comedies -a lot of "c" stuff. razz Very big and overwhelming and dramatic and definitely not slow. Look them up, I promise you'll know them as soon as they start. thumbs up!
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Reply #64 posted 08/23/07 6:33am

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meow85 said:

Believe me, you have listened to classical, and probably loved it too.


If I loved it, I'd never tell. My funk card would be permanently taken away. lol

OK, I will admit, I love "A Fifth Of Beethoven" on the "Saturday Night Fever" soundtrack. lol
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Reply #65 posted 08/23/07 7:26am

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vainandy said:



That's because if those genre ever caught on, they would be more expensive to make than shit hop is. Record labels and radio stations aren't about to jeopardize making a smaller profit. It's about business only these days. They don't give a damn about music whatsoever. And if it degrades black people and makes them look like ignorant fools, well, that just makes the rich white men making money off it even more happy.


Welll you know what, fuck the major labels then. Don't rely on them. Independent is the way to go. Once you're a respected independent artist and the majors are seeing that you're doing well, then they'll HAVE to take you in.
NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE.
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Reply #66 posted 08/23/07 7:32am

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NWF said:

vainandy said:



That's because if those genre ever caught on, they would be more expensive to make than shit hop is. Record labels and radio stations aren't about to jeopardize making a smaller profit. It's about business only these days. They don't give a damn about music whatsoever. And if it degrades black people and makes them look like ignorant fools, well, that just makes the rich white men making money off it even more happy.


Welll you know what, fuck the major labels then. Don't rely on them. Independent is the way to go. Once you're a respected independent artist and the majors are seeing that you're doing well, then they'll HAVE to take you in.


That's true, but see, the labels have the radio stations and video channels in their corner. If you don't give an artist any airplay, they can't become well known, respected, or even have an audience demand for them. There are major corporations that own multiple radio stations all over the country. They actually control who makes it big and who doesn't. It's a no win situation.
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Reply #67 posted 08/23/07 7:41am

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vainandy said:



That's true, but see, the labels have the radio stations and video channels in their corner. If you don't give an artist any airplay, they can't become well known, respected, or even have an audience demand for them. There are major corporations that own multiple radio stations all over the country. They actually control who makes it big and who doesn't. It's a no win situation.
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Of course. Thanks, Clear Channel! thumbs up!
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