Don't you love it when people bring out the ignorant side of themselves when they make silly comments like this? It just goes to show how much they really know about music and music history. I should know. I've been getting shit like this all my life. Thankfully there's many others who share my skin color that step outside the box and not fit into the stereotype of what kind of music Blacks should play. We're on a site devoted to one of these guys right now.

But when will folks realize that music is not determined by color?


I got real bored here in orgland, so I thought I'd start up a controversial topic.

NWF said:

i know exactly what you mean. i was heavy into "hair metal" for a while and people took the piss out of me really badly for it because i'm a black female. i don't see why music should have a color. now i'm more into new wave and electro which is still considred "white music" but whatever. i like what i like and whoever doesn't like it can piss off!

would there even BE rock music without black musicians???

Anxiety said:

Good point

dancerella said:

Exactly! If you don't like the fact that I dig Rock and New Wave, then that's your problem.

Anxiety said:

I don't think so. We'd have to deal with Country/Bluegrass or something if that was the case.

Anxiety said:

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tA

Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

BLUES (especially the delta and slide blues) is the main ingredient of rock & roll

BLUES-40%
GOSPEL-25%
COUNTRY-25%
FOLK-5%
BLUEGRASS-5%

theAudience said:

AMEN!!! Blacks and and whites working together to create beautiful sounds.

What I'm trying to figure out is at what point did the majority of Blacks decide to abandon Harder Rock and pass it along to the White folks? Was it Elvis' era? The Hippie era? The dawn of Heavy Metal?

It seemed like as the distortion volume went up, the brothers were like, "nah, man, I'mma stick to the funky stuff."

But I'm not speaking for everyone. Obviously people like Jimi, Sly, and Arthur were the ones that took Rock & Roll into the next level.

theAudience said:

If Rock N Roll is purely so called White People Music then, Grits is pasta.

Unless it's classical or new age, white folks didn't invent shit!!!!























It's satire. Honest!
[Edited 8/21/07 15:42pm]

CHUCK BERRY INVENTED ROCK.
JIMI HENDRIX INVENTED ROCK GUITAR SOLOING.

exactly! most people think rock is for white people only. I used to think that as well, until I learned about music history and how racism played a part

Rock & roll music is universal music, a music that is embraced by all races. The thing that black people don't dig rock is a myth, those that do are blind to the culture that is a part of everybody. Rock was never just for "the white man", anybody who can play a guitar or play drums or sing in any kind of way and do things that people could dig and truly adores the format of rock & roll should NOT be ignored.

To say rock is "white people's music" is like saying that only white people were the cradle of civilization when it's really the country of Africa that is the cradle.

In other words, it's a black, white, Asian, Hispanic, Caribbean, etc. thing. Hopefully people will get that soon enough. Until then, rock on.

NWF said:

The funny thing is that if you ask any famous white rock musician who their influences are, You almost always get the same answer. Jimi Hendrix, BB King, Chuck Berry, Muddy Waters, Robert Johnson, Bo Diddley. The list goes on.

NWF said:

Don't even get me started on this subject. lol

The Barkays always used to say that funk is nothing more than "black rock", so I would say that black people abandoning the harder music would be around the time that Shitney Ass Houston came on the scene.

I'm so glad U started this subject. It has been eating at me for years as a young Black Guitarist. I remember onetime I was playing some Jimi Hendrix & 1 of my black friends said to me "..Man why are U listening to that white boy shit?.."

I don't think there is a way that I can describe how bad that hurts me to hear. What has happened to our culture? Why is 'Shit Hop' become the only music that is considered "Black". Why can't a black guitarist or Rack band be on a "Black Station"? Is it because they also feel that "Rock" isn't Black enough for the average Black listener.

Sad but true..

I don't even consider it black considering that it was white people that made it so huge. If you notice, the tempo of it is just as slow as music that is traditionally considered "white" such as classical music. That's what I love to throw in shit hop lovers faces the most because, when I was growing up in the 1980s, the harder and faster the song was, the "blacker" it was considered.

vainandy said:

Yes, I feel U man. But tell that to the average black kid. If you were to play a Rock song in the Ghetto they would look at U like U have lost your mind!

If you played some funk, they would look at you crazy also. That's because shit hop has dominated R&B radio for so long that those kids were born into it and know nothing else. I had lived through various style changes that lasted about five years in R&B music in my lifetime such as The Motown Sound when I was born, the early 70s soulful sound, the late 70s disco sound, the early 80s funk sound, the late 80s crossover sound (that's when things first started fucking up), the house music sound of the late 80s/very early 90s, and finally the shit hop sound of the early 90s to the present. If a child was born in the early 90s, he or she was born into the shit hop sound and has never seen a style change in his entire lifetime. By the time I was 15, I had seen probably about four style changes.

It's the white owned record labels merging and radio stations monopolized that have kept this shit hop alive by keeping every thing else out.
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vainandy said:

Wow. Consider yourself lucky for growing up in such a Golden Era of music! I was born in '81 when Prince & Michael Jackson ruled the world. How I miss those days.

As far as the kids & shit hop these days. Dark days ahead bro..dark days..

Considering that you were born in 1981, and by the time you were a teenager in the 1990s, shit hop was already dominating things, you are an exceptional person to look for something beyond shit hop because teenage years are definately influential years.

vainandy said:

Thanx! As a kid I just got off more on Funky Bass Lines & Guitar solos. And who better to introduce me to the Funk than Prince?! So thats why it makes me sick to hear people say that Rock Music is White Music. Our boy Prince is only played on Black Radio stations when he writes songs like Future Baby Mama. Makes U wonder how many black folks would listen to Balck radio if they started playing Black Rock groups.

I think the backlash would be crazy as hell.

That's what has been ingrained in people's minds for generations. Racism was designed to divide and conquer people. When we as a planet get tired of racism, that sort of narrow thinking will end. But Blacks are just as guilty as Whites when it comes to this narrow thinking. I have family who, quite frankly, hate white people and everything associated with them. When I was growing up (the '80s), the world made it was very clear to me that there was "white music" and "black music". There was the one R&B radio station and there were dozens of Pop,Rock,Country,Classical,Christian radio stations. There was MTV,VH1,TNN and there was BET. It doesn't take a terribly bright child to quickly figure out how things work. In 2007, nothing has changed. Except now what is considered "black music" has been reduced to something very unnatural that I do not relate to.

Quamirozsaz said:

I do think it's ingrained especially for black kids. I am child of the 70s/80s, so I grew up on Soul, R&B and Disco. Back then what was called "black music" was more varied than what it is today, fortunately we didn't have to put up with hip-hop or a so-called R&B which had to have a little Rap in the middle to make it "Hip". However, even back then when I was a teen in the late 70s/ early 80s you wouldn't get me admitting to liking anything that was classed as "white music" unless it was Teena Marie, who my friends saw as white woman who sang black! At the time one of my favourite groups were Abba but I dare not tell my friends, because they would have looked at me as if I was insane.,

As I have grown however, I have embraced all kinds of music, my music collection is still overwhemingly black, but I embrace music by non-black artists, such as The Carpenters, R.E.M and Coldplay and I don't care who knows it. I am still not much of a fan of a hard rock music, but that's just a personal thing. So I believe as children, black kids especially, grow and mature their outlook will change and they will grow to appreciate all kinds of music.