I have noticed there are a number of MJ, Madonna, Janet Jackson, and Elvis threads, and few on John Lennon.

Do you like his music? If so, what is your favorite album or song? Mine is Plastic Ono Band.

Okay... I am assuming there are almost no John Lennon fans on the org.... His music is so amazing; better than the "noise" that 50 Cent, Justin Timberlake, and Beyonce associate themselves with. Yet we have several threads on the latter individuals.

I love John Lennon's music. I wish he'd been nicer to his first wife and first son, but people are people.

"Across The Universe" is in my top ten songs of all time.

John was a poet. I love his lyrics, his voice, his melodies; the list of likes goes and goes.

Rodya24 said:

I agree

Oh, there's plenty of Lennon fans on the Org.I love the Beatles, Plastic Ono Band, the Imagine album, and parts of Mind Games. I can take or leave the rest of his solo work, and I actively dislike the Double Fantasy album. But yeah, he was a one off. Probably a right bastard to meet in real life, but as a musical hero, a legend.

Rodya24 said:

when the beatles came out, they were a "teenybop" band, and compared disfavourably with the likes of Elvis, Sinatra.

John is a musical genius imo. It's such a shame he didn't live longer. It would've been great to see what kind of music he would've released throughout the 80' and 90's and even now. I love his solo work and of course, the Beatles.

He was the husband of the most underrated female musician/singer ever!

MikeMatronik said:

Cynthia Lennon? I didn't even know she could sing

GELLUS GUY CUD MAYBE B THE MOST BESTEST LUV SONG EVA ROTE FROM A MAN. OWNLY AN MAN NO,S WHAT HE MEEN,S IN HIS SONG.

LittleSmedley said:

True. But 50 Cent, Justin Timberlake, and Beyonce have quite a lot of work to do before deserving comparisions with John Lennon and The Beatles. Perhaps ONE DAY JT will create his masterpiece. Perhaps 50 Cent will go down as one of the greatest rappers in modern popular music. Perhaps ONE DAY Beyonce will have her own Purple Rain. In fact, I hope all of this comes true. Mainstream radio is begging for good, substantial, timeless music.

LittleSmedley said:

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What VH1 on sat. at 9 PM, for the John Lennon special focusing on his solo stuff. The docu, "Imagine" was pretty good too.

I agree with some of his politics and I thought he had courage to speak out with intelligence during a time when things needed to be said.

His solo stuff, some was good (not great) and some of it just wasn't.

Look for a Rolling Stone Article from the early 70's, in the interview he must of had a couple of drinks in him because he's just brutally honest about a lot of topics such as Paul McCartney's talent or lack of

LittleSmedley said:

YAY for Yoko Ono!

Rodya24 said:

Perhaps one day my aunt will grow balls and then be known as my uncle.

Butchersdog said:

Slave2daGroove said:

I have not laughed this hard in a long time. Who knows? Stranger things have happened -- I think. Perhaps 50 Cent REALLY is a genius, and most of us have "misunderstood" him. LOL.

Rodya24 said:

there are millions of fans of the beatles at the org, you will notice that soon

dammme said:

I joined the org a couple of weeks ago. So, I hope I get to participate in more discussions on the Beatles. I just assumed (wrongly) that there are few fans of John Lennon because there are countless threads on current popular stars (not surprising), Madonna, and Michael Jackson (again, not suprising since both are '80s icons like Prince), and few on Lennon and other Beatles.

Rodya24 said:

a common thread some months ago was about how overrated the Beatles are

or the usual comparison with the Stones

Slave2daGroove said:

Good substanital timeless music will never come from the likes of 50 Cent.

Empress said:

You never know. Like I said above, MAYBE 50 Cent is a "misunderstood" genius. LOL. I am kidding.

Rodya24 said:

seriously, you never know. Look at early bee gees, bunch of folky twats. Or Prince. Listening to "For You" you would never guess what was to come...

dammme said:

Ah, the inevitable comparions with the Rolling Stones and the question over whether or not the Fab Four are overrated. As for the latter, hell yes. But I still think The Beatles are one of the greatest bands in rock and roll history.

Rodya24 said:

... and the most overrated ever... or that goes to Nirvana?

dammme said:

To be honest, I never understood the obsession with Nirvana, Oasis, Pulp (including the solo career of Jarvis Cocker), Coldplay, and U2. Sure, I like a couple of songs from each of these bands, but that is about it. Who do you think is the most overrated band?

dammme said:

Nirvana had something.

No, i'd say most overated is Beach Boys. I like the singles but they weren't THAT good.

Or Bob Dylan.

Love Lennon & glad to see Plastic Ono Band mentioned. That is easily the best Beatles solo record & the Beatles-related thing I listen to most often. And it should be mentioned, he wrote most of my fave Beatles songs & is the one I would have most liked to have seen live, had he ever toured. There's something about him that clings to the real essence of rock and roll, however weird the surroundings get.

But... Beach Boys & Dylan over-rated? That's a whole other bag of bananas. Not everything is for everyone but those two had a massive influence on everything that came after. From Dylan, it was the mix of heady, poetic lyrics into simple song forms. For the Beach Boys it was a radical change of the possibilities for harmony & arrangement. Pet Sounds may seem kind of quaint nowadays but there was nothing that sounded remotely like it in 1966. Their high "rating" is not just for the surfing & car songs.

I really like most of Lennon's Beatles work, but only like very selective Lennon solo tracks. Partly due to the then-fashionable primal scream therapy he undertook at the end of the '60s, far too many of his solo songs imo come across as the naive, out of touch with the real world musings of an incredibly self-obsessed millionaire and his sometime loving wife.

By his own admission, he deliberately drew on himself for his solo songs, which perhaps explains why his solo work is so much weaker overall imo than his Beatles work, as he seems to have become an even more isolated figure after the Beatles finished than before, and so had less and less new experiences to fuel his new song-writing.

His later life is also surrounded in fake posthumous mythology of domestic bliss, with apparantly a far murkier, sadder reality lurking behind. Depending on what book you read, by 1980, he seems to have been a bit like the late-life Elvis - isolated, surrounded by yes-men, and wallowing in booze (which Lennon's idol Elvis barely touched), material goods and doing a bit less drugs than Elvis' legendary appetites.

Oh to be a world-famous music icon with the world at your feet, eh?

My favourate solo Lennon tracks -

Cold Turkey, Instant Karma, Jealous Guy (tho I prefer the Bryan Ferry version, which I view as the classic version ), Watching the Wheels, Nobody Told Me and possibly my favourate, No. 9 Dream.

IMO - Every Lennon needs his McCartney, and vice versa, tho by the '70s, I think John needed Paul artistically more than Paul needed John.
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