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Reply #240 posted 08/26/07 10:53pm

PurpleCharm

floetcist said:

PleasurePrinciple said:


fine?that looks like lipstick or another surgery 2 me rolleyes


Don't be stupid. Its not lipstick. Vitiligo patient's lips (and other similar body parts) turn pink, and look like albinos. And like I mentioned before, his lips are the same size JMHO.







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Interesting that you posted the last pic, which is of a person with vitiligo that uses makeup to match his pre-vitiligo skin tone and not the other way around.

I would be interested in seeing some pics of high-melanined people with vitiligo that use makeup to match their diseased skin, the way Michael matches his makeup.
[Edited 8/27/07 6:15am]
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Reply #241 posted 08/26/07 11:44pm

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Thumparello said:

whatsgoingon said:



Well if nothing else his father has got green eyes. Even journalists that have interviewed him have noted that. And compared to Wesley Snipes I think his father is quite light skinned, I've seen mixed-race people of about the same complexion.
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THIS ENTIRE FAMILY IS A BUNCH OF WEIRDOS. EVERYBODY FROM JOSEPH AND KATHERINE AND THE REST HAVE HAD THEIR NOSES WHACKED ON. AMAZING HOW MUCH RESPECT PEOPLE THAT TRY TO PULL AWAY FROM THEIR NATURAL HERITAGE LOOK (AFRICAN AMERICAN FEATURES )GET SO MUCH RESPECT FROM THE BRAINWASHED OR WHITEWASHED PUBLIC. wink

MJ, FOOL DOESN'T HAVE VIRTIGO BUT I'M SURE A GOOD MAJORITY OF YOU BELIEVE THAT.


Hands down funniest post in here, by far.

Virtigo... falloff

Clearly this whole entire thread escaped you.
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Reply #242 posted 08/27/07 5:23am

SoulAlive

Wow,those pics are dramatic neutral Vitiligo is a sad disease,for those folks who really have it.
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Reply #243 posted 08/27/07 5:48am

whatsgoingon

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PurpleCharm said:

floetcist said:



Don't be stupid. Its not lipstick. Vitiligo patient's lips (and other similar body parts) turn pink, and look like albinos. And like I mentioned before, his lips are the same size JMHO.







[Edited 8/17/07 20:08pm]


Interesting that you posted the last pic, which is of a person with vitiligo that uses makeup to match his pre-skin vitiligo skin tone and not the other way around.

I would be interested in seeing some pics of high-melanined people with vitiligo that use makeup to match their diseased skin, the way Michael matches his makeup.
[Edited 8/26/07 22:56pm]

That's a very good point. The man's face at least is over 80% white yet he still chooses to use makeup to match his original colour.
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Reply #244 posted 08/27/07 6:03am

SoulAlive

whatsgoingon said:

PurpleCharm said:



Interesting that you posted the last pic, which is of a person with vitiligo that uses makeup to match his pre-skin vitiligo skin tone and not the other way around.

I would be interested in seeing some pics of high-melanined people with vitiligo that use makeup to match their diseased skin, the way Michael matches his makeup.
[Edited 8/26/07 22:56pm]

That's a very good point. The man's face at least is over 80% white yet he still chooses to use makeup to match his original colour.


hmmm assuming that Michael really has this disease....it's odd that he would use make-up to match the lightened portion of his skin.This is why I said that the vitiligo story is "too convenient".It gives him an excuse to look the way he really wants to look,which is....white.After the nose jobs and other facial surgeries to remove his black features,the lightening of his skin (regardless of how it happened) was just the next logical step.How tragic.
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Reply #245 posted 08/27/07 11:58am

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Imago said:

mimi07 said:


well overall there is no excuse for what michael did to himself...except for his skin color which i believe he does have vitiligo, but as he said in his book "moonwalk" it's his face and he knows.I personally think he looks 100% better than he has in years, i don't see what's wrong with his outfit and i think his hair looks fine and i think he looks good.But anyways why do people care so much on how he looks? especially non fans to me it's pathetic because i don't waste my time talking about or hating on people i dislike.
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Absolutely. positively. hideous.

The Jocylen Wildenstien of the music industry. Lawd, my eyes feel like they have Gahnarea . He was such a good looking young man too. disbelief


it's your opinion, but that's exaggerating...oh and you spelt her name wrong it's Jocelyn Wildenstein
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Reply #246 posted 08/27/07 12:01pm

mimi07

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Najee said:

PleasurePrinciple said:

yea,cuz me and bullshit dont get along to well.
and u STILL did NOT answer my question!when,where,who?


When Michael Jackson was younger (noticeably black) he was long considered a sex symbol among the "Right On!/Rock and Soul" magazine buyers. MJ couldn't go out in public because girls and young ladies yelled over him at hysterical levels -- likely to the point it scared him that hundreds of sisters wanted to tear his clothes off.

It's when MJ started changing his features to start looking Caucasian that the sex symbol-type comments waned and his appearance started being regarded in negative terms. I don't know too many people who refer to MJ in the same manner as he was regarded in his teens and early to mid-20s (and especially no black women); he's generally looked at in parody or as a case of racial confusion in its most tragic sense.

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r u african american? no offense but u sound it just in the way u write about michael and his skin color.

i say it's old news get over it
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Reply #247 posted 08/27/07 2:50pm

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mimi07 said:

Najee said:



When Michael Jackson was younger (noticeably black) he was long considered a sex symbol among the "Right On!/Rock and Soul" magazine buyers. MJ couldn't go out in public because girls and young ladies yelled over him at hysterical levels -- likely to the point it scared him that hundreds of sisters wanted to tear his clothes off.

It's when MJ started changing his features to start looking Caucasian that the sex symbol-type comments waned and his appearance started being regarded in negative terms. I don't know too many people who refer to MJ in the same manner as he was regarded in his teens and early to mid-20s (and especially no black women); he's generally looked at in parody or as a case of racial confusion in its most tragic sense.

[Edited 8/26/07 22:40pm]


Your obviously NOT African America.
r u african american? no offense but u sound it just in the way u write about michael and his skin color.

i say it's old news get over it
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Reply #248 posted 08/27/07 2:54pm

Timmy84

I just wanna add to this thread to say "African-American" is so politically correct. It's "Black". nod

Say It Loud, I'm Black and I'm Proud! fro lol
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Reply #249 posted 08/27/07 3:00pm

uPtoWnNY

Timmy84 said:

I just wanna add to this thread to say "African-American" is so politically correct. It's "Black". nod

Say It Loud, I'm Black and I'm Proud! fro lol


Hell MFing yeah!!! I grew up on that song! African-American...please. Since when did "Black" become a bad word?
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Reply #250 posted 08/27/07 5:52pm

JonnyApplesauc
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PleasurePrinciple said:

JonnyApplesauce said:



Clearly.

yea,cuz me and bullshit dont get along to well.
and u STILL did NOT answer my question!when,where,who?
[Edited 8/26/07 20:20pm]


all our lives, the diaspora, us; this is crazy; the vitaligo doubters are really funny; they debating blotch patterns; you aint gotta believe me; i'm just stating the obvious; its like Kat Williams ranting like he was there; why does it always have to be the absolute worse case? predatory, gotta get somebody, nonsense
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Reply #251 posted 08/27/07 6:44pm

PurpleCharm

whatsgoingon said:

PurpleCharm said:



Interesting that you posted the last pic, which is of a person with vitiligo that uses makeup to match his pre-skin vitiligo skin tone and not the other way around.

I would be interested in seeing some pics of high-melanined people with vitiligo that use makeup to match their diseased skin, the way Michael matches his makeup.
[Edited 8/26/07 22:56pm]

That's a very good point. The man's face at least is over 80% white yet he still chooses to use makeup to match his original colour.


I wonder if someone will respond to my post. I would love for someone to explain why Michael goes to the section of the makeup counter that is for white people. eek

Instead of using makeup that looks like Mac's Studio Tech NC15, he should be wearing something that resembles Mac's Studio Tech NC45.
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Reply #252 posted 08/27/07 6:46pm

PurpleCharm

mimi07 said:

Najee said:



When Michael Jackson was younger (noticeably black) he was long considered a sex symbol among the "Right On!/Rock and Soul" magazine buyers. MJ couldn't go out in public because girls and young ladies yelled over him at hysterical levels -- likely to the point it scared him that hundreds of sisters wanted to tear his clothes off.

It's when MJ started changing his features to start looking Caucasian that the sex symbol-type comments waned and his appearance started being regarded in negative terms. I don't know too many people who refer to MJ in the same manner as he was regarded in his teens and early to mid-20s (and especially no black women); he's generally looked at in parody or as a case of racial confusion in its most tragic sense.

[Edited 8/26/07 22:40pm]

r u african american? no offense but u sound it just in the way u write about michael and his skin color.


What???
Please explain your post.
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Reply #253 posted 08/27/07 6:49pm

PurpleCharm

uPtoWnNY said:

Timmy84 said:

I just wanna add to this thread to say "African-American" is so politically correct. It's "Black". nod

Say It Loud, I'm Black and I'm Proud! fro lol


Hell MFing yeah!!! I grew up on that song! African-American...please. Since when did "Black" become a bad word?


Amen!

I cant stand the term African-American.
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Reply #254 posted 08/28/07 4:17am

soFRESHH

Hmm,I think MJ had some issues with the plastic surgery and everything but unlike most, I don't link that to his skin issues. I think he had vitiligo.
People say, 'If he had vitiligo, why was his skin so even?' but i don't think it was.. Even look at this picture of him and whitney.. (look at his hands, his hairline, the top of his ear,, near his eye..- his skin wasn't even- looks like he was covering up the discoloration with badly applied powder..)



About his kids, I don't know- people who've seen Blanket say he loks like a paler version of lil mj with longer, straight hair (even that woman (journalist) who was invited to travel with them for a while in japan said it in one of her articles..) But then Prince I with the blonde hair is wierd (bleached?)..

I wont say they're not his because people say my sister and i dont look like we belong to our father becuase they think we look white- (which gets annoying when people are always like confused ..

just because they don't look like typical mixed kids doesn't mean theyre not biologically his..


US (the girls lol):



Our Dad (the older dude):


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Reply #255 posted 08/28/07 4:27am

Najee

mimi07 said:

r u african american? no offense but u sound it just in the way u write about michael and his skin color.

i say it's old news get over it


And let me guess -- you think Michael Jackson looks good because he's trying look white (which apparently is what you are).

You sound like one of those zealots who think MJ's looks are natural and not the obvious results of plastic surgery and an apparent self-hatred of his appearance.

So yes, I am a black American -- and this black American is telling you to STFU.
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Reply #256 posted 08/28/07 4:34am

Najee

soFRESHH said:

About his kids, I don't know- people who've seen Blanket say he loks like a paler version of lil mj with longer, straight hair (even that woman (journalist) who was invited to travel with them for a while in japan said it in one of her articles..) But then Prince I with the blonde hair is wierd (bleached?)..

I wont say they're not his because people say my sister and i dont look like we belong to our father becuase they think we look white- (which gets annoying when people are always like confused .


It's a moot point, because court documents revealed years ago that MJ is not the biological father of the children with Debbie Rowe. The fact that the man would say he fathered two obviously white children speaks of his race complex.

The odds of Michael Jackson having three children who bore no physical resemblance to him is the problem. It looks like your sisters have taken on more of the characteristics of one parent -- your mother (which I have seen in all children, not just those of biracial parentage), while you seem to take on more of the characteristics of your father. Even then, it looks like your sisters' children have some tint of melanin in their skin -- MJ's children are pale white.

There always have been other logistics about MJ's personal "relationships" that never added up. For starters, I find it hard to believe that a woman who gave birth to two children would give them up in the rather routine and clinical way Rowe did without it being some sort of arranged situation. I don't recall seeing many pictures of MJ and Rowe together publicly, but there always was this sense of coldness around them when I did see them. I'm also skeptical on the "Blanket's mother" thing (who according to MJ is black and who has never been seen).

Also, MJ has been doing the bed-sharing with children thing for years, so I have a hard time fathoming that he's in the bed with those kids plus a wife or he can go from acting like child and having slumber parties to having a sexual relationship with a woman at the drop of a hat.

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Reply #257 posted 08/28/07 5:59am

uPtoWnNY

Najee said:

mimi07 said:

r u african american? no offense but u sound it just in the way u write about michael and his skin color.

i say it's old news get over it


And let me guess -- you think Michael Jackson looks good because he's trying look white (which apparently is what you are).

You sound like one of those zealots who think MJ's looks are natural and not the obvious results of plastic surgery and an apparent self-hatred of his appearance.

So yes, I am a black American -- and this black American is telling you to STFU.



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Reply #258 posted 08/28/07 9:53am

midnightmover

PurpleCharm said:

whatsgoingon said:


That's a very good point. The man's face at least is over 80% white yet he still chooses to use makeup to match his original colour.


I wonder if someone will respond to my post. I would love for someone to explain why Michael goes to the section of the makeup counter that is for white people. eek

Instead of using makeup that looks like Mac's Studio Tech NC15, he should be wearing something that resembles Mac's Studio Tech NC45.

If they can't come up with an explanation for that then it's a de facto admission of defeat, since that has always been the most obvious counter claim to the whole vitiligo story.
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Reply #259 posted 08/28/07 9:57am

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Najee said:



It's a moot point, because court documents revealed years ago that MJ is not the biological father of the children with Debbie Rowe.
[Edited 8/28/07 5:23am]

If this is true then it's basically a smoking gun that ends the argument once and for all. What more can you tell us about these documents and why hasn't it been mentioned earlier?
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Reply #260 posted 08/28/07 10:04am

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disbelief blahblah
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Reply #261 posted 08/28/07 10:18am

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midnightmover said:

Najee said:



It's a moot point, because court documents revealed years ago that MJ is not the biological father of the children with Debbie Rowe.
[Edited 8/28/07 5:23am]

If this is true then it's basically a smoking gun that ends the argument once and for all. What more can you tell us about these documents and why hasn't it been mentioned earlier?

I personally have heard about this only here at the org, and was told later on that it was a "rumour". I´d love to see the document though and if such document exists, than I think it might be available on the net. I´ve came across lots of stuff on the net including Debbie and MJ´s divorce papers, LMP/Mj divorce papers, the contract betweem MJ and the first accuser etc. I wanna see the document.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #262 posted 08/28/07 3:36pm

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Najee said:

mimi07 said:

r u african american? no offense but u sound it just in the way u write about michael and his skin color.

i say it's old news get over it


And let me guess -- you think Michael Jackson looks good because he's trying look white (which apparently is what you are).

You sound like one of those zealots who think MJ's looks are natural and not the obvious results of plastic surgery and an apparent self-hatred of his appearance.

So yes, I am a black American -- and this black American is telling you to STFU.

lol you couldn't be more wrong...so chill i was just asking

i'm african american, and i know michaels looks aren't natural..well most of it.he wasn't happy with something so he changed it...so what, it's his face and it's already been done.pissing about it won't change anything.
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Reply #263 posted 08/28/07 3:43pm

PurpleCharm

midnightmover said:

PurpleCharm said:



I wonder if someone will respond to my post. I would love for someone to explain why Michael goes to the section of the makeup counter that is for white people. eek

Instead of using makeup that looks like Mac's Studio Tech NC15, he should be wearing something that resembles Mac's Studio Tech NC45.

If they can't come up with an explanation for that then it's a de facto admission of defeat, since that has always been the most obvious counter claim to the whole vitiligo story.


Exactly. They are quick to run up in a thread and rant when someone says that MJ doesnt have vitiligo. But I have never ever seen any of them address why MJ has chosen to NOT wear makeup that matches his pre-vitiligo skin tone. How convenient for a man that is obviously struggling with identity issues to use vitiligo as a way to look like a white person...by coupling the white makeup with a bone straight wig, multiple nose jobs and facial surgeries.
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Reply #264 posted 08/28/07 3:54pm

Rodya24

So... Michael Jackson had plastic surgery? His appearance changed? I am shocked.
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Reply #265 posted 08/28/07 4:05pm

PurpleCharm

Rodya24 said:

PurpleCharm:

While perusing this thread, your name caught my attention.

This is what you said in the "Christ almighty when did this turn into MichaelJackson.org?" thread.

"Well, as you've already stated, only SOME have posted to the 50 zillion threads in question. Include me in the ones that haven't contributed to them. I am tired of seeing this forum being flooded with threads about MJ. An ocassional thread here and there is cool, but flooding the forum with MJ thread is NOT cool.
Take the STANNING to one of his fan sites."

Very interesting...



And your point is???? Looks like someone has caught an attitude because of what I posted. I am pretty sure that it I had made a MJ bandwagon comment, you would have never ran up in this thread and posted what you just did.

Since you want to play Columbo, show me where I had posted in a MJ-related thread prior to that post you just quoted.
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Reply #266 posted 08/28/07 4:06pm

PurpleCharm

Rodya24 said:

So... Michael Jackson had plastic surgery? His appearance changed? I am shocked.
[Edited 8/28/07 16:05pm]


I quoted your post before you did your edit. wink
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Reply #267 posted 08/28/07 4:16pm

Rodya24

PurpleCharm said:

Rodya24 said:

So... Michael Jackson had plastic surgery? His appearance changed? I am shocked.
[Edited 8/28/07 16:05pm]


I quoted your post before you did your edit. wink


It is fine. I would have called you or anyone else out even if you had made a Michael Jackson bandwagon comment. I think whether or not one is attracted to or repulsed by Michael Jackson the man, and no matter how irritating these threads on his personal life and appearance are, I believe almost no one on the org is completely apathetic to the topics generated by the name "Michael Jackson."
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Reply #268 posted 08/28/07 4:18pm

PurpleCharm

Rodya24 said:

PurpleCharm said:



I quoted your post before you did your edit. wink


It is fine. I would have called you or anyone else out even if you had made a Michael Jackson bandwagon comment. I think whether or not one is attracted to or repulsed by Michael Jackson the man, and no matter how irritating these threads on his personal life and appearance are, I believe almost no one on the org is completely apathetic to the topics generated by the name "Michael Jackson."
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Good comeback.
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Reply #269 posted 08/28/07 4:22pm

Rodya24

PurpleCharm said:

Rodya24 said:



It is fine. I would have called you or anyone else out even if you had made a Michael Jackson bandwagon comment. I think whether or not one is attracted to or repulsed by Michael Jackson the man, and no matter how irritating these threads on his personal life and appearance are, I believe almost no one on the org is completely apathetic to the topics generated by the name "Michael Jackson."
[Edited 8/28/07 16:16pm]

Good comeback.


Thanks. I think what both of us can agree on is that Michael Jackson is an interesting man.
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