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PrintableSoulAlive said: I'm sorry,but the Jackson family has zero credibility when it comes to things like this.They're notorious for keeping secrets,twisting facts and outright lying.Janet was married for 11 years and lied about it.LaToya wrote a book that was filled with "facts" that other family members disputed.Michael himself has lied about how many surgeries he's had.
If you wanna prove that MJ has a skin disease,you'll need more reliable sources than that family!  thats all i got bro, skin bleaching just doesn't exist bro. I personally think that family is nuts isn't to be trusted on anything... but you can't break whhat is... you have the only person in history to go from black to white... without a disease... it doesn't stand the test of probability and science... if you can't believe t his, than show me how he could've done this? give me your sources? cause i know people who would love to do it I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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SoulAlive said: I'm sorry,but the Jackson family has zero credibility when it comes to things like this.They're notorious for keeping secrets,twisting facts and outright lying.Janet was married for 11 years and lied about it.LaToya wrote a book that was filled with "facts" that other family members disputed.Michael himself has lied about how many surgeries he's had.
If you wanna prove that MJ has a skin disease,you'll need more reliable sources than that family! Yes. So, that is why one should be skeptical of what Latoya said during her marriage to her abusive husband and what Jermaine said in his song "Word to the Bad." While both have stated that Michael has a skin disease (Jermaine on Big Brother a couple of years ago, and Laytoya after her marriage ended), neither should be used as the main evidence in proving that Michael has vitiligo. To do that, one must look at court transcripts (both the prosecution and defense agreed that Michael has vitiligo; his dermatologist testified under oath that Michael was diagnosed with universal vitiligo and lupus in 1984), and cold, scientific evidence. The fact remains, one cannot go through with the depigmentation process without having vitiligo. One cannot bleach the human body without suffering fatal consequences within several weeks of said treatment. Meaning: Michael Jackson has vitiligo. | |
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Rodya24 said: SoulAlive said: I'm sorry,but the Jackson family has zero credibility when it comes to things like this.They're notorious for keeping secrets,twisting facts and outright lying.Janet was married for 11 years and lied about it.LaToya wrote a book that was filled with "facts" that other family members disputed.Michael himself has lied about how many surgeries he's had.
If you wanna prove that MJ has a skin disease,you'll need more reliable sources than that family! Yes. So, that is why one should be skeptical of what Latoya said during her marriage to her abusive husband and what Jermaine said in his song "Word to the Bad." While both have stated that Michael has a skin disease (Jermaine on Big Brother a couple of years ago, and Laytoya after her marriage ended), neither should be used as the main evidence in proving that Michael has vitiligo. To do that, one must look at court transcripts (both the prosecution and defense agreed that Michael has vitiligo; his dermatologist testified under oath that Michael was diagnosed with universal vitiligo and lupus in 1984), and cold, scientific evidence. The fact remains, one cannot go through with the depigmentation process without having vitiligo. One cannot bleach the human body without suffering fatal consequences within several weeks of said treatment. Meaning: Michael Jackson has vitiligo. So how comes Latoya isn't dead. In the 90s at one time she looked as white as Michael is today, but now she's gone back to more or less her natural complexion. What's to say if Micahel stops his weekly treatments, throws away his umbrella and cut out the makeup altogether, how do you know that in time he wouldn't get darker? | |
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Im pretty much done trying to convince you guys but some cat orgnoted me this video (somebody who doesn't want to take part in this, don't blame him)
i found it quite interesting http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= So you got Osmond, a known close friend of michaels since the 70's saying it. What you want next, Jason Tamborelli? Katherine and Joe Jackson... Gotta believe Donny, hes a mormon he wouldn't lie 
but seriously the man has vitiligo, you can go on about him rejecting his afroamerican heritage but you can'tt say he purposely made himself to be physically white. at this point its ludicrous to say that. and if you stiill don't believe it its plain and simple you don't want to believe it Michael could come out right now be interviewed by Geraldo, and show his remaining b lotches, and you'll just say thats dirt on his arms i love this. shit im defending him, and i don't even like him that much christ, i'll never shake this MJfan scent I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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whatsgoingon said: Rodya24 said: Yes. So, that is why one should be skeptical of what Latoya said during her marriage to her abusive husband and what Jermaine said in his song "Word to the Bad." While both have stated that Michael has a skin disease (Jermaine on Big Brother a couple of years ago, and Laytoya after her marriage ended), neither should be used as the main evidence in proving that Michael has vitiligo. To do that, one must look at court transcripts (both the prosecution and defense agreed that Michael has vitiligo; his dermatologist testified under oath that Michael was diagnosed with universal vitiligo and lupus in 1984), and cold, scientific evidence. The fact remains, one cannot go through with the depigmentation process without having vitiligo. One cannot bleach the human body without suffering fatal consequences within several weeks of said treatment. Meaning: Michael Jackson has vitiligo. So how comes Latoya isn't dead. In the 90s at one time she looked as white as Michael is today, but now she's gone back to more or less her natural complexion. What's to say if Micahel stops his weekly treatments, throws away his umbrella and cut out the makeup altogether, how do you know that in time he wouldn't get darker? now your just getting rediculous lol weekly treatments? lol now your really reaching eh? christ thats really bad that actually made me laugh lol Do you know how much cream that would take man? MJ would be funneling his money simply on creams omg *MJ jumps in a tub of Hyrdoquinne* "Im getting lighter, yaaayyy yaaayyy" do you know how rediculous you sound? but since you want to go there Extensive use of cream causes immune defiencey, sometimes sscarring and making the said person more liable to get skin cancer. the product is lesions on the skin etc... thats the reason lil kim stopped using the lightners. Mj would be one big leasion cancer victim... Granted he looks horrible.. not that bad though christ your hilarious I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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whatsgoingon said: Rodya24 said: Yes. So, that is why one should be skeptical of what Latoya said during her marriage to her abusive husband and what Jermaine said in his song "Word to the Bad." While both have stated that Michael has a skin disease (Jermaine on Big Brother a couple of years ago, and Laytoya after her marriage ended), neither should be used as the main evidence in proving that Michael has vitiligo. To do that, one must look at court transcripts (both the prosecution and defense agreed that Michael has vitiligo; his dermatologist testified under oath that Michael was diagnosed with universal vitiligo and lupus in 1984), and cold, scientific evidence. The fact remains, one cannot go through with the depigmentation process without having vitiligo. One cannot bleach the human body without suffering fatal consequences within several weeks of said treatment. Meaning: Michael Jackson has vitiligo. So how comes Latoya isn't dead. In the 90s at one time she looked as white as Michael is today, but now she's gone back to more or less her natural complexion. What's to say if Micahel stops his weekly treatments, throws away his umbrella and cut out the makeup altogether, how do you know that in time he wouldn't get darker? I have no idea whether or not Latoya has vitiligo. I did not know this thread was about her. Michael Jackson was diagnosed with universal vitiligo, which is different from focal vitiligo. People who have focal vitiligo had the option from the '80s on of going through the repigmentation process. Michael Jackson does not. Like EmbattledWarrior said, his doctor gave him the option of either waiting for a longer period for his skin to turn white or to undergo depigmentation to quicken the process. He is almost ninety percent depigmentized at the current moment. The reason he needs the umbrella is because he has universal vitiligo, and no longer has natural protection from the sun. He is a prime candidate for skin cancer. | |
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Rodya24 said: whatsgoingon said: So how comes Latoya isn't dead. In the 90s at one time she looked as white as Michael is today, but now she's gone back to more or less her natural complexion. What's to say if Micahel stops his weekly treatments, throws away his umbrella and cut out the makeup altogether, how do you know that in time he wouldn't get darker? I have no idea whether or not Latoya has vitiligo. I did not know this thread was about her. Michael Jackson was diagnosed with universal vitiligo, which is different from focal vitiligo. People who have focal vitiligo had the option from the '80s on of going through the repigmentation process. Michael Jackson does not. Like EmbattledWarrior said, his doctor gave him the option of either waiting for a longer period for his skin to turn white or to undergo depigmentation to quicken the process. He is almost ninety percent depigmentized at the current moment. The reason he needs the umbrella is because he has universal vitiligo, and no longer has natural protection from the sun. He is a prime candidate for skin cancer. Don't respond, this is turning rediculous lol I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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Rodya24 said: whatsgoingon said: So how comes Latoya isn't dead. In the 90s at one time she looked as white as Michael is today, but now she's gone back to more or less her natural complexion. What's to say if Micahel stops his weekly treatments, throws away his umbrella and cut out the makeup altogether, how do you know that in time he wouldn't get darker? I have no idea whether or not Latoya has vitiligo. I did not know this thread was about her. Michael Jackson was diagnosed with universal vitiligo, which is different from focal vitiligo. People who have focal vitiligo had the option from the '80s on of going through the repigmentation process. Michael Jackson does not. Like EmbattledWarrior said, his doctor gave him the option of either waiting for a longer period for his skin to turn white or to undergo depigmentation to quicken the process. He is almost ninety percent depigmentized at the current moment. The reason he needs the umbrella is because he has universal vitiligo, and no longer has natural protection from the sun. He is a prime candidate for skin cancer. But what is being said is too convenient. Your saying Michael has Universal vitiligo-too convenient, because from the beginning that would have been so obvious. That means the patches would be all over his body and I am sorry that would be noticeable at least to his brothers if no one else. Now if he had focal vitiligo that would have made more sense because it would explain why it was never that obvious in the first place, because that would have meant it would have been restricted to a certain area of his body which could be easily hidden. But to say he had it all over and yet you can't even produce authentic pictures from the early to mid 80s proving this, yet fans find it easy to produce pictures of 10 years ago showing him with little brown, patches on a body that has now become primarily white
He says it's a family disease and yet out all the brothers , he that has done the most to erase all his black features is the only one to get it. If this were Jackie it would have been so much more believable because nr 1 I think it would have been handle differently and nr 2 he hasn't butchered his face with surgery. And you mentioned about them finding papers and letters between Michael and Jermaine apologising for writting "Word to the Bad" in the Jackson family storage collections, guess what else they also found there? a tube of Benoquin, which is a prescribe bleaching agent. [Edited 8/22/07 5:04am] [Edited 8/22/07 5:07am] | |
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whatsgoingon said: Rodya24 said: I have no idea whether or not Latoya has vitiligo. I did not know this thread was about her. Michael Jackson was diagnosed with universal vitiligo, which is different from focal vitiligo. People who have focal vitiligo had the option from the '80s on of going through the repigmentation process. Michael Jackson does not. Like EmbattledWarrior said, his doctor gave him the option of either waiting for a longer period for his skin to turn white or to undergo depigmentation to quicken the process. He is almost ninety percent depigmentized at the current moment. The reason he needs the umbrella is because he has universal vitiligo, and no longer has natural protection from the sun. He is a prime candidate for skin cancer. But what is being said is too convenient. Your saying Michael has Universal vitiligo-too convenient, because from the beginning that would have been so obvious. That means the patches would be all over his body and I am sorry that would be noticeable at least to his brothers if no one else. Now if he had focal vitiligo that would have made more sense because it would explain why it was never that obvious in the first place, because that would have meant it would have been restricted to a certain area of his body which could be easily hidden. But to say he had it all over and yet you can't even produce authentic pictures from the early to mid 80s proving this, yet fans find it easy to produce pictures of 10 years ago showing him with little brown, patches on a body that has now primarily white
He says it's a family disease and yet out all the brothers , he that has done the most to erase all his black features is the only one to get it. If this were Jackie it would have been so much more believable because nr 1 I think it would have been handle differently and nr 2 he hasn't butchered his face with surgery. your only evidence that he bleached his skin is a nose job and a cleft on his chin da fuck? 
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU? at least be a smart hater. Shit i wish voicescarey came to mj threads he use to give me a run for my money theirs a hater who knew his shit (well he really wasn't a hater but a skeptic) theirs no point to argue its pretty plain and simple you are going to believe what you want and theirs no attitude in this post im actually laughing through it lol I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: whatsgoingon said: But what is being said is too convenient. Your saying Michael has Universal vitiligo-too convenient, because from the beginning that would have been so obvious. That means the patches would be all over his body and I am sorry that would be noticeable at least to his brothers if no one else. Now if he had focal vitiligo that would have made more sense because it would explain why it was never that obvious in the first place, because that would have meant it would have been restricted to a certain area of his body which could be easily hidden. But to say he had it all over and yet you can't even produce authentic pictures from the early to mid 80s proving this, yet fans find it easy to produce pictures of 10 years ago showing him with little brown, patches on a body that has now primarily white
He says it's a family disease and yet out all the brothers , he that has done the most to erase all his black features is the only one to get it. If this were Jackie it would have been so much more believable because nr 1 I think it would have been handle differently and nr 2 he hasn't butchered his face with surgery. your only evidence that he bleached his skin is a nose job and a cleft on his chin da fuck?
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU? at least be a smart hater. Shit i wish voicescarey came to mj threads he use to give me a run for my money theirs a hater who knew his shit (well he really wasn't a hater but a skeptic) theirs no point to argue its pretty plain and simple you are going to believe what you want and theirs no attitude in this post im actually laughing through it lol You believe he has only done two things to himself and you call me a "hater" because I don't believe the vitiligo story that explains it all to me. | |
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whatsgoingon said: Rodya24 said: I have no idea whether or not Latoya has vitiligo. I did not know this thread was about her. Michael Jackson was diagnosed with universal vitiligo, which is different from focal vitiligo. People who have focal vitiligo had the option from the '80s on of going through the repigmentation process. Michael Jackson does not. Like EmbattledWarrior said, his doctor gave him the option of either waiting for a longer period for his skin to turn white or to undergo depigmentation to quicken the process. He is almost ninety percent depigmentized at the current moment. The reason he needs the umbrella is because he has universal vitiligo, and no longer has natural protection from the sun. He is a prime candidate for skin cancer. But what is being said is too convenient. Your saying Michael has Universal vitiligo-too convenient, because from the beginning that would have been so obvious. That means the patches would be all over his body and I am sorry that would be noticeable at least to his brothers if no one else. Now if he had focal vitiligo that would have made more sense because it would explain why it was never that obvious in the first place, because that would have meant it would have been restricted to a certain area of his body which could be easily hidden. But to say he had it all over and yet you can't even produce authentic pictures from the early to mid 80s proving this, yet fans find it easy to produce pictures of 10 years ago showing him with little brown, patches on a body that has now become primarily white
He says it's a family disease and yet out all the brothers , he that has done the most to erase all his black features is the only one to get it. If this were Jackie it would have been so much more believable because nr 1 I think it would have been handle differently and nr 2 he hasn't butchered his face with surgery. And you mentioned about them finding papers and letters between Michael and Jermaine apologising for writting "Word to the Bad" in the Jackson family storage collections, guess what else they also found there? a tube of Benoquin, which is a prescribe bleaching agent. [Edited 8/22/07 5:04am] [Edited 8/22/07 5:07am] Tell that to those involved in both the 1993-94 investigation into the child molestation accusation against Michael Jackson and the 2005 trial. Considering that both the prosecution and defense believed that Michael Jackson has universal vitiligo, I have no idea why others do not. Wait, I know. These people ignore court transcripts and scientific evidence. I am done with this thread. Off to see picture of Mariah Carey! | |
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whatsgoingon said: EmbattledWarrior said: your only evidence that he bleached his skin is a nose job and a cleft on his chin da fuck?
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU? at least be a smart hater. Shit i wish voicescarey came to mj threads he use to give me a run for my money theirs a hater who knew his shit (well he really wasn't a hater but a skeptic) theirs no point to argue its pretty plain and simple you are going to believe what you want and theirs no attitude in this post im actually laughing through it lol You believe he has only done two things to himself and you call me a "hater" because I don't believe the vitiligo story that explains it all to me. Actually EmbattledWarrior is one of the harshest critics of Michael Jackson on the org. And one of the most knowledgeable about Michael Jackson. And he has said in this thread that Michael looks terrible right now. And has said in other threads that Michael Jackson is a plastic surgery addict, and that he has been under the knife numerous times. Please do not throw the "insane fan who believes MJ has had only two nose surgeries" at us. It does not work against us. | |
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whatsgoingon said: EmbattledWarrior said: your only evidence that he bleached his skin is a nose job and a cleft on his chin da fuck?
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU? at least be a smart hater. Shit i wish voicescarey came to mj threads he use to give me a run for my money theirs a hater who knew his shit (well he really wasn't a hater but a skeptic) theirs no point to argue its pretty plain and simple you are going to believe what you want and theirs no attitude in this post im actually laughing through it lol You believe he has only done two things to himself and you call me a "hater" because I don't believe the vitiligo story that explains it all to me. yah two things i didnt say how many times I know his plastic surgeons has said he's had inbetween 8 and 15 nose jobs the chin 2 probably does botox facelifts as well thats the celeb thing to do has nothing to do with his skin Shit i know women from long island whos had more surgery than him lol Your making smokes signs on top of the mountain, but you got no fire... I don't believe a word that Michael Says, cause he's lied, cheated stole, but i aint believing his word, im just believing science bro im not a delusional fan bro. Michael is one of the biggest posers around... But just because hes addicted to plastic surgery doesn't mean he lightens his skin with weekly doses
yah and that really is a perm and not a wig on his head lol You make sneddon sound like Arnie Becker from LA Law seriously lets get down to brass tacks here man Why are you so hellbent on beliving he doesn't have vitiligo? is it not possible for you to hate your race and have the disease? maybe he likes it! lol no no it was toooo conveniant! your a regular columbo! [Edited 8/22/07 5:31am] I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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Rodya24 said: whatsgoingon said: You believe he has only done two things to himself and you call me a "hater" because I don't believe the vitiligo story that explains it all to me. Actually EmbattledWarrior is one of the harshest critics of Michael Jackson on the org. And one of the most knowledgeable about Michael Jackson. And he has said in this thread that Michael looks terrible right now. And has said in other threads that Michael Jackson is a plastic surgery addict, and that he has been under the knife numerous times. Please do not throw the "insane fan who believes MJ has had only two nose surgeries" at us. It does not work against us. Ahhh you know my work
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OK, I'm lost here. If Michael Jackson can die from toxin poisoning if he underwent depigmentation as an undiagnosed patient, how does vitiligo seemingly protect him from certain death under this procedure? Especially if anything, vitiligo makes one possibly more sensitive to sunlight? THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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You know someone is on the wrong side of an argument when they delibrately ignore the points someone has made, completely misrepresent what the person said and then have the nerve to mock the person based on this misrepresentation. And you know things are getting even worse when the person who has been misrepresented doesn't even notice it. [Edited 8/25/07 12:11pm] “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Najee said: OK, I'm lost here. If Michael Jackson can die from toxin poisoning if he underwent depigmentation as an undiagnosed patient, how does vitiligo seemingly protect him from certain death under this procedure? Especially if anything, vitiligo makes one possibly more sensitive to sunlight?
The toxins in hydroquinne and other depigmentating products, Destroy melanacyst cells correct? Vitiligo is a disease that already destroys melanin, so on a vitiligo victim it just spreads the disease faster. On a regular person, since the melanin production is normal, it would be even more dangerous cause your trying to impose an artificial vitiligo, this interacts with the immune system. concentrated dose of hydroquinn or anything else, causes tissue scarring and breaks down the immune system. Cause your going against your body, this causes lesions, and possibly cancerous. When your immune system is down, that means your able to catch many diseases IE die. Michael underwent depigmentation because of two reasons, 1. he was more than 40$ depigmented already and 2. he has lupos which means his immune system was fucked anyway. The depigmentation for a vitiligo victim is only a a few years. Doctors dont reccomend extended use. Because it is extremely hazardous. currently Michael has weeklly/monthly skin therapy. The process is hazardous only for extended use. IE if a person would try too depigment themselves completely , 1. their color would return in a few monthes. If a person would use it extendedly as Whatsgoingon proposes. the toxins would destroy the immune system, See the reason skin bleaching isn't possible is because their is no way to stop the melenin developing process, This is why Doctors don't completely understand how or why vitiligo happens... Believe me if they ever do find out how to do it, a cure to vitiligo would be next on the list, cause once you know how to destroy pigment you can learn how to regenerate it. But seriously if your that interested, look it up, i did. Google is a beautiful thing [Edited 8/22/07 14:12pm] I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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SoulAlive said:  I love that, with his ten year old's buck teeth and everything! Probably better to start with a picture from when he was at least past puberty! My Legacy
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EmbattledWarrior said: whatsgoingon said: Well according to Latoya she once said that there was "no such disease" in her family, meaning that Michael was lying about the disease and as someone said Jermaine wrote a song about Michael changing his colour "Word to Bad". When you get family members contradicting what MJ himself as said, what do you expect the rest of us to think. C'mon you know that wasn't Latoya talkin, that was Gordon. after she left gordon she retracted everything she said many times. Michael forgave her two years ago. But they didn't speak for years. Shit even if he didn't have the disease and was possibly molester. you don't go against the blood. That was wrong. As for jermaine i never got the skin reference ive read the lyrics 20Xs but even if it was true, he probably didn't know about it. You gotta remember the siblings were pretty disconnected at that time. Just asking...as I've worked with the sisters before... | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: The toxins in hydroquinne and other depigmentating products, Destroy melanacyst cells correct?
Vitiligo is a disease that already destroys melanin, so on a vitiligo victim it just spreads the disease faster. On a regular person, since the melanin production is normal, it would be even more dangerous cause your trying to impose an artificial vitiligo, this interacts with the immune system. concentrated dose of hydroquinn or anything else, causes tissue scarring and breaks down the immune system. Cause your going against your body, this causes lesions, and possibly cancerous. When your immune system is down, that means your able to catch many diseases IE die. Regardless of your condition, depigmentation sounds like a potentially dangerous process. Michael Jackson generally looks sickly whenever I see photos of him and it's readily obvious that he is very sensitive to sunlight. You have to wonder if his immune system is shot already from all the surgical procedures. [Edited 8/22/07 18:57pm] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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Najee said: EmbattledWarrior said: The toxins in hydroquinne and other depigmentating products, Destroy melanacyst cells correct?
Vitiligo is a disease that already destroys melanin, so on a vitiligo victim it just spreads the disease faster. On a regular person, since the melanin production is normal, it would be even more dangerous cause your trying to impose an artificial vitiligo, this interacts with the immune system. concentrated dose of hydroquinn or anything else, causes tissue scarring and breaks down the immune system. Cause your going against your body, this causes lesions, and possibly cancerous. When your immune system is down, that means your able to catch many diseases IE die. Regardless of your condition, depigmentation sounds like a potentially dangerous process. Michael Jackson generally looks sickly whenever I see photos of him and it's readily obvious that he is very sensitive to sunlight. You have to wonder if his immune system is shot already from all the surgical procedures. [Edited 8/22/07 18:57pm]  I wonder that sometimes, too. I cannot fathom what it must be like to have both universal vitiligo and lupus. To know that your immune system can turn on you ANY DAY because of the latter, and that because of your skin disease you are vulnerable to skin cancer... He reminds me of Jack from the movie The Nightmare Before Christmas. Tall, skinny, white, with black clothes. At least he has the financial backing to have doctors watch over his condition. But during the trial (not surprising), he looked like death itself. While he still looks terrible with the plastic surgeries, at least recent photos of him depict a healthier person. | |
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Rodya24 said: I wonder that sometimes, too. I cannot fathom what it must be like to have both universal vitiligo and lupus. To know that your immune system can turn on you ANY DAY because of the latter, and that because of your skin disease you are vulnerable to skin cancer... He reminds me of Jack from the movie The Nightmare Before Christmas. Tall, skinny, white, with black clothes. At least he has the financial backing to have doctors watch over his condition. But during the trial (not surprising), he looked like death itself. While he still looks terrible with the plastic surgeries, at least recent photos of him depict a healthier person.To be very honest, I do think that because of the effects of all his surgeries Michael Jackson may not be long for this planet. I know that sounds morbid, but he clearly looks like a man whose body is breaking down. THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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Najee said: Rodya24 said: I wonder that sometimes, too. I cannot fathom what it must be like to have both universal vitiligo and lupus. To know that your immune system can turn on you ANY DAY because of the latter, and that because of your skin disease you are vulnerable to skin cancer... He reminds me of Jack from the movie The Nightmare Before Christmas. Tall, skinny, white, with black clothes. At least he has the financial backing to have doctors watch over his condition. But during the trial (not surprising), he looked like death itself. While he still looks terrible with the plastic surgeries, at least recent photos of him depict a healthier person.To be very honest, I do think that because of the effects of all his surgeries Michael Jackson may not be long for this planet. I know that sounds morbid, but he clearly looks like a man whose body is breaking down. It is morbid, but you are voicing what a number of us are thinking. I hope for the sake of his children (biological or not, he is their guardian and parent) that he lives for a long time to watch them grow up and live their lives as adults. It is so sad to see pictures of Michael Jackson now and what he used to be over two decades ago. I think it is even worse than what was going on with Elvis (i.e. weight and drug problems). | |
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Rodya24 said: It is morbid, but you are voicing what a number of us are thinking. I hope for the sake of his children (biological or not, he is their guardian and parent) that he lives for a long time to watch them grow up and live their lives as adults. It is so sad to see pictures of Michael Jackson now and what he used to be over two decades ago. I think it is even worse than what was going on with Elvis (i.e. weight and drug problems).
That's not even accounting for lupus, which ultimately could do in Michael Jackson. I don't know his offical diagnosis, but lupus affects more black Americans disproportionately than most other races. For instance, systemic lupus erythematosus is a chronic inflammatory autoimmune disorder which may affect many organ systems including the skin, joints and internal organs. The disease may be mild or severe and life-threatening. THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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Najee said: Rodya24 said: It is morbid, but you are voicing what a number of us are thinking. I hope for the sake of his children (biological or not, he is their guardian and parent) that he lives for a long time to watch them grow up and live their lives as adults. It is so sad to see pictures of Michael Jackson now and what he used to be over two decades ago. I think it is even worse than what was going on with Elvis (i.e. weight and drug problems).
That's not even accounting for lupus, which ultimately could do in Michael Jackson. I don't know his offical diagnosis, but lupus affects more black Americans disproportionately than most other races. For instance, systemic lupus erythematosus is a chronic inflammatory autoimmune disorder which may affect many organ systems including the skin, joints and internal organs. The disease may be mild or severe and life-threatening.  | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: Im pretty much done trying to convince you guys but some cat orgnoted me this video (somebody who doesn't want to take part in this, don't blame him)
i found it quite interesting http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= So you got Osmond, a known close friend of michaels since the 70's saying it. What you want next, Jason Tamborelli? Katherine and Joe Jackson... Gotta believe Donny, hes a mormon he wouldn't lie
but seriously the man has vitiligo, you can go on about him rejecting his afroamerican heritage but you can'tt say he purposely made himself to be physically white. at this point its ludicrous to say that. and if you stiill don't believe it its plain and simple you don't want to believe it Michael could come out right now be interviewed by Geraldo, and show his remaining b lotches, and you'll just say thats dirt on his arms i love this. shit im defending him, and i don't even like him that much christ, i'll never shake this MJfan scent That chick got sonned by Donny Osmond! How often does THAT happen?! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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