their are few people who know their shit on this site, Specially when it comes pertaining to MJ.
Im one of them.
1. Their is no way, yet, to permanently whiten your skin color, Go ask your doctor, and they'll tell you what many have told me. It's impossible.
Conventional Skin lighteners can only whiten the skin for months at a time, afterwards they return back to their normal color.
Bleaching your skin permanently as a theory, is toxic. You'll be poisoning yourself.
2. Their are 3 types of vitiligo, Focal, in only a certain few areas of the body the patches show, segmental, on only one side of the body, Universal, Everywhere on the body.
Of these three Michael was diagnosed by his Dermatologist Dr. Arnold Klein, with Universal Vitiligo and Lupus. This was confirmed in several court depositions, including the 03 molestation trial. And in several interviews where reporters would say MJ would show up in a surgical mask, unmade up, after facing recent vitiligo treatment.
3. Back in the 80's the new revolutionary treatment for vitiligo was in its preliminary stages re-pigmentation, and patients who didn't have universal vitiligo qualified. Michael's Dermatologist gave MJ a choice. Leaving the disease alone, and having the spots grow slowly and becoming more obvious. Or undergo the process of De-pigmentation. Which speeds up the process of vitiligo. Having a patient go from 30% white to 70& in a matter of one or two years. When normally it would take 5 to 10 years. In the 80's you can tell he went through this around the We Are The World Period in 85.
Michael is Currently 92% de-pigmented, getting closer to being completely albino. Having this disease means he has become a virtual Vampire, using lotions creams, umbrellas to protect him from the sun. Because of the lost of melanin in his skin, Hes at dangerous risk for skin cancer. And because of the lupus, his internal organs are in trouble because his immune system could turn on him any day now.

I've posted this type of crap with sources all the time, im just saying what ii remember from my extensive reading. But if you really do care about it. Just Google Vitiligo and you'll see MJ's Picture and topics about it everywhere. Its a serious subject. I know alot of people with it and it really interrupts their psychological growth. Having the disease was probably the many factors in MJ being so batty.

their are few people who know their shit on this site, Specially when it comes pertaining to MJ.
Im one of them.
1. Their is no way, yet, to permanently whiten your skin color, Go ask your doctor, and they'll tell you what many have told me. It's impossible.
Conventional Skin lighteners can only whiten the skin for months at a time, afterwards they return back to their normal color.
Bleaching your skin permanently as a theory, is toxic. You'll be poisoning yourself.
2. Their are 3 types of vitiligo, Focal, in only a certain few areas of the body the patches show, segmental, on only one side of the body, Universal, Everywhere on the body.
Of these three Michael was diagnosed by his Dermatologist Dr. Arnold Klein, with Universal Vitiligo and Lupus. This was confirmed in several court depositions, including the 03 molestation trial. And in several interviews where reporters would say MJ would show up in a surgical mask, unmade up, after facing recent vitiligo treatment.
3. Back in the 80's the new revolutionary treatment for vitiligo was in its preliminary stages re-pigmentation, and patients who didn't have universal vitiligo qualified. Michael's Dermatologist gave MJ a choice. Leaving the disease alone, and having the spots grow slowly and becoming more obvious. Or undergo the process of De-pigmentation. Which speeds up the process of vitiligo. Having a patient go from 30% white to 70& in a matter of one or two years. When normally it would take 5 to 10 years. In the 80's you can tell he went through this around the We Are The World Period in 85.
Michael is Currently 92% de-pigmented, getting closer to being completely albino. Having this disease means he has become a virtual Vampire, using lotions creams, umbrellas to protect him from the sun. Because of the lost of melanin in his skin, Hes at dangerous risk for skin cancer. And because of the lupus, his internal organs are in trouble because his immune system could turn on him any day now.

I've posted this type of crap with sources all the time, im just saying what ii remember from my extensive reading. But if you really do care about it. Just Google Vitiligo and you'll see MJ's Picture and topics about it everywhere. Its a serious subject. I know alot of people with it and it really interrupts their psychological growth. Having the disease was probably the many factors in MJ being so batty.

Dude, while I agree with you on all points, there is no point attempting to convince those who think that MJ is a "liar" and a "skin bleacher." I and several other orgers in the thread entitled, "Michael Jackson image complex" laid out the same evidence to no use. One person told me that the doctor proably lied under oath about MJ having vitiligo. A couple of others posted a YouTube link to a clip of Malcolm X in their quest to prove that MJ is the embodiment of black self-hatred. Apparently MJ having vitiligo is in their words "too convenient."

Do you believe Michael truely loves himself. The only reason why people are going on about vitiligo is because that it is what he said. Some people believe he has only had 2 nose jobs just because he said he has only had 2 nose jobs, when it is obvious he had alot more . Supposing up to today he never mentioned a skin disease, what would you think with all the other plastic surgery, the wigs and makeup? Would you think he was someone who was black and proud?

Dude, while I agree with you on all points, there is no point attempting to convince those who think that MJ is a "liar" and a "skin bleacher." I and several other orgers in the thread entitled, "Michael Jackson image complex" laid out the same evidence to no use. One person told me that the doctor proably lied under oath about MJ having vitiligo. A couple of others posted a YouTube link to a clip of Malcolm X in their quest to prove that MJ is the embodiment of black self-hatred. Apparently MJ having vitiligo is in their words "too convenient."

3. Back in the 80's the new revolutionary treatment for vitiligo was in its preliminary stages de-pigmentation, and patients who didn't have universal vitiligo qualified. Michael's Dermatologist gave MJ a choice. Leaving the disease alone, and having the spots grow slowly and becoming more obvious. Or undergo the process of De-pigmentation. Which speeds up the process of vitiligo. Having a patient go from 30% white to 70& in a matter of one or two years. When normally it would take 5 to 10 years. In the 80's you can tell he went through this around the We Are The World Period in 85.

3. Back in the 80's the new revolutionary treatment for vitiligo was in its preliminary stages de-pigmentation, and patients who didn't have universal vitiligo qualified. Michael's Dermatologist gave MJ a choice. Leaving the disease alone, and having the spots grow slowly and becoming more obvious. Or undergo the process of De-pigmentation. Which speeds up the process of vitiligo. Having a patient go from 30% white to 70& in a matter of one or two years. When normally it would take 5 to 10 years. In the 80's you can tell he went through this around the We Are The World Period in 85.

3. Back in the 80's the new revolutionary treatment for vitiligo was in its preliminary stages de-pigmentation, and patients who didn't have universal vitiligo qualified. Michael's Dermatologist gave MJ a choice. Leaving the disease alone, and having the spots grow slowly and becoming more obvious. Or undergo the process of De-pigmentation. Which speeds up the process of vitiligo. Having a patient go from 30% white to 70& in a matter of one or two years. When normally it would take 5 to 10 years. In the 80's you can tell he went through this around the We Are The World Period in 85.

No offense, but I and several other orgers are convinced that he has vitiligo because of the court transcripts and cold, scientific evidence. Even Najee and PleasurePrinciple who PROBABLY agree with you that MJ is the embodiment of black self-hatred believe that he has vitiligo. You can believe all you want about MJ hating being black, but IMO his skin changing white due to vitiligo should have nothing to do with such a perception.

No offense, but I and several other orgers are convinced that he has vitiligo because of the court transcripts and cold, scientific evidence. Even Najee and PleasurePrinciple who PROBABLY agree with you that MJ is the embodiment of black self-hatred believe that he has vitiligo. You can believe all you want about MJ hating being black, but IMO his skin changing white due to vitiligo should have nothing to do with such a perception.

I believe a lot of people are using the term "skin bleaching" as a euphemism for depigmentation, not as a literal medical explanation for Michael Jackson's skin. No one actually believes the man buys industrial-size vats of Ambi skin creme and puts it on his body, for goodness sakes.

Where the racial aspect comes into play is that lightening his skin also folds into Michael Jackson's apparent issues with race and his appearance. I can believe MJ has vitiligo, but I also can see that given his other physical changes I can see how and why he would accept a process that could leave his skin "whiter."
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This is where the vitiligo story doesn't hold up for me. For the depigmentation process the vitiligo would have probably had to be quite extensive all over his body. However, Going back to when he primarily had darker skin there is no evidence of that. The makeup theory doesn't hold up well because during concerts he sweated alot. When I went to see him on the Bad tour you practically saw the makeup slipping from his face and he actually looked darker as the show went on.

This is where the vitiligo story doesn't hold up for me. For the depigmentation process the vitiligo would have probably had to be quite extensive all over his body. However, Going back to when he primarily had darker skin there is no evidence of that. The makeup theory doesn't hold up well because during concerts he sweated alot. When I went to see him on the Bad tour you practically saw the makeup slipping from his face and he actually looked darker as the show went on.

This is where the vitiligo story doesn't hold up for me. For the depigmentation process the vitiligo would have probably had to be quite extensive all over his body. However, Going back to when he primarily had darker skin there is no evidence of that. The makeup theory doesn't hold up well because during concerts he sweated alot. When I went to see him on the Bad tour you practically saw the makeup slipping from his face and he actually looked darker as the show went on.

Oh i understand too, its logical to have some doubt.
but when you line up the factors of his life.
Rejecting his race has nothing to do with it.
i remember a while back a cat use to say that the fact that MJ dated only white women he rejected his race. Which is logical too,
but then look at prince, only dates latinas, or nearly every black rapper in the world.
White is the symbol of ultimate acomplishment.
I myself have an intense attraction white women, am i rejecting my race, no?
If mj does have any resentment towards his race, its probably just like everyone else.

Oh i understand too, its logical to have some doubt.
but when you line up the factors of his life.
Rejecting his race has nothing to do with it.
i remember a while back a cat use to say that the fact that MJ dated only white women he rejected his race. Which is logical too,
but then look at prince, only dates latinas, or nearly every black rapper in the world.
White is the symbol of ultimate acomplishment.
I myself have an intense attraction white women, am i rejecting my race, no?
If mj does have any resentment towards his race, its probably just like everyone else.

But he went to beige, the patches are usually a pinkish colour but by the Bad era you see him looking very evenly, beige/caramel domplexion.

But he went to beige, the patches are usually a pinkish colour but by the Bad era you see him looking very evenly, beige/caramel domplexion.

Nah not really, i just was never attracted to them, above a physical level.
Plus i don't claim a race, because i don't approve of nationality or siding with groups.
additionally im mixed which is another reason i don't claim a race.
I've endured enough racism in my life, from both sides, thus i believe siding witth groups just causes more problems.

you can be skeptical all you want, unless you can find a medical way of removing your color purely for the fun of it.
you got nothing.
Its pure logistics. Michael Jackson is the only man to have gone from black to white purely because of his vanity and self hatred?
its not probable especially with the damaged and self hating people taht exist iin this world.
You can say he may hate his race till your blue in the face but you can't prove that he did it purposely
you can prove he has vitiligo and underwent depigmentation

you can be skeptical all you want, unless you can find a medical way of removing your color purely for the fun of it.
you got nothing.
Its pure logistics. Michael Jackson is the only man to have gone from black to white purely because of his vanity and self hatred?
its not probable especially with the damaged and self hating people taht exist iin this world.
You can say he may hate his race till your blue in the face but you can't prove that he did it purposely
you can prove he has vitiligo and underwent depigmentation