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Reply #60 posted 08/13/07 5:38pm

namepeace

TotalAlisa said:


but i did NOT give all the reasons why i believe elvis doesnt deserve the credit he is given... and why i don't think elvis has accomplished half of what michael has done...

the only reason why my arguments sound unreasonble... like im some crazy fan.. is because i can't really say what i feel about elvis... because it will offend so many people on this board.... it will be like the thing that will get me banned from this forum...

i have been warned like a billion times... and i think one or two more warnings and im off this place... well atleast i won't be totalalisa anymore lol lol lol lol we know everyone on here has like two accounts... LOLOLOL


Again, you indict Elvis in your initial comments by the thread title and what you say about MJ, which extends by negative implication to Presley.

We tend to agree that Elvis gets too much credit, but for the most part, that isn't his fault. But we tend to disagree about Elvis' accomplishments vis-a-vis MJ's. On the commercial or the artistic front, Elvis, at a MINIMUM< stacks up fairly well to MJ.

Not that I'm a Presley fan, but Elvis has been gone 30 years and it can be argued that he STILL enjoys a better career than 90% of the popular musicians out here today.
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Reply #61 posted 08/13/07 5:39pm

thedoorkeeper

TotalAlisa said:


well Michael is definitly NOT a rock star.... so how could he be put in that category....


You are absolutely right.
A more appropriate thread would be WHY IS MJ GREATER THAN LIZA MINNELLI?
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Reply #62 posted 08/13/07 5:40pm

EmbattledWarri
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TotalAlisa said:

EmbattledWarrior said:


Um i want absolutely nothing to do with this thread.
But It's actually *Undisputed*
And since you're arguing about it now, than it would actually be "Disputed"
giving the circumstances...

Carry on with this useless discussion.

Oh btw...
Prince is a better Rock Star than both...
chew on that
cool
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well Michael is definitly NOT a rock star.... so how could he be put in that category.... but his Dirty Diana, Beat it, and Black or White are amazing rock songs

Alright i'll do you one better than...
He's greater than Elvis and MJ, as artist and musicians and performing...
mmmm
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Reply #63 posted 08/13/07 5:43pm

thedoorkeeper

I think we can all agree that MJ is the greatest entertainer
that has ever gone on trial for child molestation?
No one else can claim that? lol
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Reply #64 posted 08/13/07 5:45pm

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I think we can all agree that MJ is the greatest entertainer
that has ever gone on trial for child molestation?
No one else can claim that? lol

lol
Very true, he's got that title.
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Reply #65 posted 08/13/07 5:47pm

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TotalAlisa said:



well Michael is definitly NOT a rock star.... so how could he be put in that category.... but his Dirty Diana, Beat it, and Black or White are amazing rock songs

Alright i'll do you one better than...
He's greater than Elvis and MJ, as artist and musicians and performing...
mmmm


Dude, why are you taking this thread seriously after the "conversation" you had with TotalAlisa in the other Elvis thread?

And what are you doing? Making this thread worse by drawing comparisons between Prince, MJ, and Elvis. You do realize that you will never be able to convince TotalAlisa that one is better than the other unless that "one" is MJ? This goes for EVERYONE. Stop taking this thread seriously. Elvis is great. MJ is great. Both fucked up their careers in many ways. Both have sold more albums than most other male solo artists in modern popular music. One dominated the '50s and the other the '80s. The fact that one may be greater than the other is in the eye of the beholder.
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Reply #66 posted 08/13/07 5:48pm

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namepeace said:

TotalAlisa said:


but i did NOT give all the reasons why i believe elvis doesnt deserve the credit he is given... and why i don't think elvis has accomplished half of what michael has done...

the only reason why my arguments sound unreasonble... like im some crazy fan.. is because i can't really say what i feel about elvis... because it will offend so many people on this board.... it will be like the thing that will get me banned from this forum...

i have been warned like a billion times... and i think one or two more warnings and im off this place... well atleast i won't be totalalisa anymore lol lol lol lol we know everyone on here has like two accounts... LOLOLOL


Again, you indict Elvis in your initial comments by the thread title and what you say about MJ, which extends by negative implication to Presley.

We tend to agree that Elvis gets too much credit, but for the most part, that isn't his fault. But we tend to disagree about Elvis' accomplishments vis-a-vis MJ's. On the commercial or the artistic front, Elvis, at a MINIMUM< stacks up fairly well to MJ.

Not that I'm a Presley fan, but Elvis has been gone 30 years and it can be argued that he STILL enjoys a better career than 90% of the popular musicians out here today.



Okay WHATEVER..... rolleyes

like i said... i am truely holding back... what i could say about elvis...
I have only touched the surface on elvis...
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Reply #67 posted 08/13/07 5:53pm

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TotalAlisa said:



well Michael is definitly NOT a rock star.... so how could he be put in that category.... but his Dirty Diana, Beat it, and Black or White are amazing rock songs

Alright i'll do you one better than...
He's greater than Elvis and MJ, as artist and musicians and performing...
mmmm

He is a better musician... but NOT performer... I have never seen a prince performance that.... gave me goose bumps.... like michael

MIchael does NOT have to try so hard he comes out does a simple performance and leaves
http://youtube.com/watch?v=M9BxLYXmXvw
this simple performance alone shows michael stage presence... Prince always had to be arrogant... but michael came out humble
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Reply #68 posted 08/13/07 5:55pm

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Rodya24 said:

EmbattledWarrior said:


Alright i'll do you one better than...
He's greater than Elvis and MJ, as artist and musicians and performing...
mmmm


Dude, why are you taking this thread seriously after the "conversation" you had with TotalAlisa in the other Elvis thread?

And what are you doing? Making this thread worse by drawing comparisons between Prince, MJ, and Elvis. You do realize that you will never be able to convince TotalAlisa that one is better than the other unless that "one" is MJ? This goes for EVERYONE. Stop taking this thread seriously. Elvis is great. MJ is great. Both fucked up their careers in many ways. Both have sold more albums than most other male solo artists in modern popular music. One dominated the '50s and the other the '80s. The fact that one may be greater than the other is in the eye of the beholder.

What i like starting shit?
boo hoo, plus you helped villify Alisa in the other thread...
i'm just havin fun
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Reply #69 posted 08/13/07 5:57pm

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TotalAlisa said:

EmbattledWarrior said:


Alright i'll do you one better than...
He's greater than Elvis and MJ, as artist and musicians and performing...
mmmm

He is a better musician... but NOT performer... I have never seen a prince performance that.... gave me goose bumps.... like michael

MIchael does NOT have to try so hard he comes out does a simple performance and leaves
http://youtube.com/watch?v=M9BxLYXmXvw
this simple performance alone shows michael stage presence... Prince always had to be arrogant... but michael came out humble

Michael WAS a great performer, the man can barely moonwalk anymore,
Prince is just a few monthes younger, and is playing 21 concerts now?
c'mon now full of energy,
Prince won, Mj Lost
lol
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Reply #70 posted 08/13/07 5:57pm

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EmbattledWarrior said:

Rodya24 said:



Dude, why are you taking this thread seriously after the "conversation" you had with TotalAlisa in the other Elvis thread?

And what are you doing? Making this thread worse by drawing comparisons between Prince, MJ, and Elvis. You do realize that you will never be able to convince TotalAlisa that one is better than the other unless that "one" is MJ? This goes for EVERYONE. Stop taking this thread seriously. Elvis is great. MJ is great. Both fucked up their careers in many ways. Both have sold more albums than most other male solo artists in modern popular music. One dominated the '50s and the other the '80s. The fact that one may be greater than the other is in the eye of the beholder.

What i like starting shit?
boo hoo, plus you helped villify Alisa in the other thread...
i'm just havin fun


hey don't get upset...im not angry with you or anyone on this board... just talking...
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Reply #71 posted 08/13/07 5:59pm

Rodya24

EmbattledWarrior said:

Rodya24 said:



Dude, why are you taking this thread seriously after the "conversation" you had with TotalAlisa in the other Elvis thread?

And what are you doing? Making this thread worse by drawing comparisons between Prince, MJ, and Elvis. You do realize that you will never be able to convince TotalAlisa that one is better than the other unless that "one" is MJ? This goes for EVERYONE. Stop taking this thread seriously. Elvis is great. MJ is great. Both fucked up their careers in many ways. Both have sold more albums than most other male solo artists in modern popular music. One dominated the '50s and the other the '80s. The fact that one may be greater than the other is in the eye of the beholder.

What i like starting shit?
boo hoo, plus you helped villify Alisa in the other thread...
i'm just havin fun


Fine. I had my share of fun in the other Elvis thread. So, you should have yours in this thread. I forgot for a moment that all is fair on the org. biggrin
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Reply #72 posted 08/13/07 6:00pm

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this is why MICHAEL IS THE GREATEST

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Reply #73 posted 08/13/07 6:02pm

EmbattledWarri
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TotalAlisa said:

this is why MICHAEL IS THE GREATEST


he can't do that no more
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Reply #74 posted 08/13/07 6:12pm

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EmbattledWarrior said:

TotalAlisa said:

this is why MICHAEL IS THE GREATEST


he can't do that no more

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Reply #75 posted 08/13/07 6:15pm

mrsnet

EmbattledWarrior said:

mrsnet said:


You're so right. It's the way of America. Does not change the fact he is the INDISPUTED child molester. Emphasises on 'indisputed'

Um i want absolutely nothing to do with this thread.
But It's actually *Undisputed*
And since you're arguing about it now, than it would actually be "Disputed"
giving the circumstances...

Carry on with this useless discussion.

Oh btw...
Prince is a better Rock Star than both...
chew on that
cool
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Indisputable : beyond dispute and undeniable accord. to webster. My mistake was the ending 'ed' instead of able.
I need to know why is it that INNOCENT MJ is labeled but folks shy away from FACT about Elvis. It is NOT in dispute. This is a known fact. As I said, Larry King was discussing this with a friend's of Elvis recently. Larry asked, "Did Elvis know how young Priscilla was?" And the goon laughed and answered, "He sure did."
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Reply #76 posted 08/13/07 6:15pm

thedoorkeeper

TotalAlisa said:

this is why MICHAEL IS THE GREATEST



Because he can spin & point?? lol

You know if he were that great a performer he would have kept on going when his hair caught fire. Now that would have been something.
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Reply #77 posted 08/13/07 6:17pm

EmbattledWarri
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thedoorkeeper said:

TotalAlisa said:

this is why MICHAEL IS THE GREATEST



Because he can spin & point?? lol

You know if he were that great a performer he would have kept on going when his hair caught fire. Now that would have been something.

christ that just made giggle
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Reply #78 posted 08/13/07 6:19pm

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Reply #79 posted 08/13/07 6:24pm

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thedoorkeeper said:

TotalAlisa said:

this is why MICHAEL IS THE GREATEST



Because he can spin & point?? lol

You know if he were that great a performer he would have kept on going when his hair caught fire. Now that would have been something.

thats something elvis could not do...

Michael is the KING OF POP.. that is the greatest title ever EARNED... Pop music isn't just one kind of category its all genres... he made all his music popluar... and he is also the king of pop lock... No one can do the moon walk like michael

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Reply #80 posted 08/13/07 6:25pm

thedoorkeeper

mrsnet said:

I need to know why is it that INNOCENT MJ is labeled but folks shy away from FACT about Elvis. It is NOT in dispute. This is a known fact. As I said, Larry King was discussing this with a friend's of Elvis recently. Larry asked, "Did Elvis know how young Priscilla was?" And the goon laughed and answered, "He sure did."


Yes its a fact that this guy said this on Larry King - but claiming something on Larry King does not make it a fact. biggrin

And MJ was found not guilty - that doesn't mean he is innocent. razz
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Reply #81 posted 08/13/07 6:28pm

thedoorkeeper

TotalAlisa said:

Michael is the KING OF POP.. that is the greatest title ever EARNED...


That title was given to him by Liz Taylor.
Nuff said. lol
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Reply #82 posted 08/13/07 6:28pm

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TotalAlisa said:

thedoorkeeper said:



Because he can spin & point?? lol

You know if he were that great a performer he would have kept on going when his hair caught fire. Now that would have been something.

thats something elvis could not do...

Michael is the KING OF POP.. that is the greatest title ever EARNED... Pop music isn't just one kind of category its all genres... he made all his music popluar... and he is also the king of pop lock... No one can do the moon walk like michael


Earned? because elizabeth taylor said it, he's earned it?
christ thats a stretch...
And even if he was the king, he's the king of sucky music?
cause pop indeed does suck nowadays, so you're def not doing him a service calling him that.
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Reply #83 posted 08/13/07 6:30pm

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EmbattledWarrior said:

TotalAlisa said:


thats something elvis could not do...

Michael is the KING OF POP.. that is the greatest title ever EARNED... Pop music isn't just one kind of category its all genres... he made all his music popluar... and he is also the king of pop lock... No one can do the moon walk like michael


Earned? because elizabeth taylor said it, he's earned it?
christ thats a stretch...
And even if he was the king, he's the king of sucky music?
cause pop indeed does suck nowadays, so you're def not doing him a service calling him that.

Elizabeth said that... eek wowowowow... see i am right... (i didn't even know that woman said that) So im not the only one who knows he earned it... she said it herself.... biggrin
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Reply #84 posted 08/13/07 6:33pm

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TotalAlisa said:

EmbattledWarrior said:


Earned? because elizabeth taylor said it, he's earned it?
christ thats a stretch...
And even if he was the king, he's the king of sucky music?
cause pop indeed does suck nowadays, so you're def not doing him a service calling him that.

Elizabeth said that... eek wowowowow... see i am right... (i didn't even know that woman said that) So im not the only one who knows he earned it... she said it herself.... biggrin

yah an actress critiqing music...
mmmm she's reliable
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Reply #85 posted 08/13/07 6:35pm

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EmbattledWarrior said:

TotalAlisa said:


Elizabeth said that... eek wowowowow... see i am right... (i didn't even know that woman said that) So im not the only one who knows he earned it... she said it herself.... biggrin

yah an actress critiqing music...
mmmm she's reliable

she was around during Elvis's time and MJ's time.. and obviously she could spot the greatest talent lol

so yest this woman is the most reliable
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Reply #86 posted 08/13/07 6:49pm

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TotalAlisa said:

thedoorkeeper said:



Because he can spin & point?? lol

You know if he were that great a performer he would have kept on going when his hair caught fire. Now that would have been something.

thats something elvis could not do...

Michael is the KING OF POP.. that is the greatest title ever EARNED... Pop music isn't just one kind of category its all genres... he made all his music popluar... and he is also the king of pop lock... No one can do the moon walk like michael



This thread is nothing but bait. Besides Michael is the king of pop lock so I guess this case is closed.


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Reply #87 posted 08/13/07 6:55pm

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EmbattledWarrior said:

TotalAlisa said:


He is a better musician... but NOT performer... I have never seen a prince performance that.... gave me goose bumps.... like michael

MIchael does NOT have to try so hard he comes out does a simple performance and leaves
http://youtube.com/watch?v=M9BxLYXmXvw
this simple performance alone shows michael stage presence... Prince always had to be arrogant... but michael came out humble

Michael WAS a great performer, the man can barely moonwalk anymore,
Prince is just a few monthes younger, and is playing 21 concerts now?
c'mon now full of energy,
Prince won, Mj Lost
lol

a real dancers like michael jackson and paula abdul... have strain on their bodies.. so NO im still not impressed with prince... he should be in stable condition.. because he didn't necessarily dance.... and didn't move the stage like michael.... touching your genitals, humping the floor, playing a guitar, jumping up and down, doing a leg split.. is NOTHING close to what michael performed on stage.. michael had actual full dance routines...

so that is just a terrible argument... sorry but Mike whens this one... and he is the BEST PERFORMER ON THIS PLANET...

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Reply #88 posted 08/13/07 7:03pm

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Reply #89 posted 08/13/07 7:06pm

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You guys would be right about Michael being the greatest entertainer if both entertainer and performer have the same definition as dancer....but they don't..... wink
chill..prince doesnt like men being front row, makes it hard to sing the ballads
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