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Reply #120 posted 08/13/07 9:14pm

Rodya24

jjhunsecker said:

mrsnet said:


EmbattledWarrior Please Please Please (as the Godfather said) tell me what songs Elvis wrote? I thought he only COwrote 'Blue Suede Shoes"(with emphasizes on CO, cause he probably had soo little imput). And IF (a big "IF", cause I do NOT believe everything in print) Jackie WIlson ( who I love and admire) said that Blacks were INFLUENCED by Elvis, he was either on an incredible 'high', or his slave mentality was kicking in. Elvis copied Jackie like a motha! Period! Elvis Got EVERYTHING from Blacks. And then he got all the Glory for THEIR creativity.
And the diff. between Elvis' fame and MJ's is Michael appealed to ALL AGES. Let's forget the diff. races, ethnicities, cultures (because of the diff. in time periods). Only teen- agers loved Elvis. MJ fans were ranged from 3 to 83.
And what instruments did Elvis play except that lame plucking of that guitar. And you do know he didn't play it like the purple one don't you?


These are the exact sentiments I mentioned..way back at the beginning of the thread. No Elvis did not write most of his songs. Neither did Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holiday, The Temptations, Frank Sinatra, Gladys Knight, or Nat king Cole,
just to name some of the dozens of great singers out there. Neither did (God, I hate to say this...) Michael Jackson, for most of his career. Elvis was an amazing vocalist, one of the all time greats. And to fault his guitar playing is like faulting Jeff Beck for being a lousy singer.
As somebody said in the thread.. dead 30 years, and still stirring people up ! If that's not greatness, than I don't know what is (LOL !!)


nod I agree with you that just because someone does not write the songs he or she sings, does not mean he or she is less of a singer. BTW, I thought Michael Jackson was a songwriter for most of his career? Sure, he and his brothers at Motown had almost no creative control over their work; but starting with such albums as Destiny, Triumph, Off The Wall, and Thriller (Billie Jean, Beat It, Wanna Be Startin Something, The Girl Is Mine), he came to write more and more of his songs. On his later albums, if I am not mistaken, he is the sole or co-writer on most songs. There is a reason why he is an inductee in the Songwriters Hall of Fame....

But it is a shame that some turn their noses up at Elvis because he was not a prolific songwriter. His voice was amazing....
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Reply #121 posted 08/14/07 11:42pm

Eileen

ehuffnsd said:

In the Ghetto is one of my favorite songs of all time.


http://www.washingtonpost...01519.html

Duet for Elvis and Daughter Lisa Marie

The Associated Press
Tuesday, August 14, 2007; 11:05 PM

MEMPHIS, Tenn. -- A new video of Lisa Marie Presley singing "In the Ghetto," accompanied by her late father, Elvis Presley, will be posted Friday on the AOL Internet site Spinner.com, a company spokesman said Tuesday.

To mark the 30th anniversary of her father's death, Lisa Marie Presley's voice was added to the original version of her father's hit song from 1969. The video duet also features images of her late father.

Spinner.com will post the video along with the transcript of an interview with Lisa Marie Presley, AOL spokesman Kurt Patat said. In the interview, Lisa Marie Presley said the project was emotionally stirring.

"We had two hours to lay down my vocals," she says. "So the next morning, I heard the rough ... and ... I've never cried when I've done anything ... ever ... but I just lost it when I heard it.

Lisa Marie Presley also talks in the interview about how she was offended to see her father's song "Viva Las Vegas" used in a Viagra commercial. "I find that revolting," she said. "Some songs we have no control over. I know we didn't license that one."

Proceeds from the new song and video will be used to help build temporary housing for the homeless in New Orleans, she said. The project is to be similar to Presley Place, a 12-unit apartment building for the homeless built in Memphis by Elvis Presley Enterprises Inc. in 2001.

At the time, Elvis Presley Enterprises was owned by Lisa Marie Presley. She sold 85 percent of the company two years ago to CKX Inc., which now controls the worldwide business in marketing Elvis' name and image.

Elvis Presley died at his Memphis home, Graceland, on Aug. 16, 1977, and thousands of fans are in town this week for the 30th anniversary of his death.

Lisa Marie Presley, 39, is scheduled to attend a concert Thursday in Memphis that will feature her father performing on video, with live support from his former backup singers and band members.

Her most recent album of her own music was "Now What" in 2005, but she said in the interview that she hopes to put out a new album soon.

"I'm definitely going to do it," she said. "I just have to figure out the right way. I'm on a clean slate right now _ I just got off my label (Capitol Records). So I'm figuring out my next route."

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http://tinyurl.com/23ep55


Lisa Marie Presley is commemorating the 30th anniversary of her father's death
by singing along with him. Elvis Presley's only child, who has released two
albums of her own, will premiere the video of a posthumous duet with her dad on
his classic 'In the Ghetto' Thursday night at the the 30th Anniversary Elvis
Presley Tribute Concert in Memphis. Starting on Friday, it will be available for
viewing here on Spinner.

The video, directed by Tony Kaye ('American History X'), was shot in New Orleans, and, as Presley tells Spinner, she was so touched by the lingering affects of Hurricane Katrina that she decided to make this video more than just a tribute to her dad.

"I landed there to do the video, and I looked around when I got off the plane ... It looks like Katrina happened six months ago," Presley says. "So, that's when it all fell together."

The duet -- both song and video -- will be available on iTunes for downloading, starting Friday. All proceeds will go toward the building of a Presley Place transitional housing development for underprivileged families in New Orleans.

"Families come in and live there, get their life skills together," Presley explains about the charity her family originally started in Memphis. "They get jobs and then they save their money, and about a year later, they move out when they can get back on their feet. It's something [Elvis] was very interested in, because it's kinda where he started from."

Come back Friday to read Spinner's exclusive interview with Lisa Marie Presley and to see the 'In the Ghetto' duet video.
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Reply #122 posted 08/16/07 10:31am

BeneHaze

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I will probably be ignored, but in reply 2 original post 'bout elvis haters, i don't hate the guy but i don't get the continuous coverage of him. i believe that little richard started it all.....just ask the man yourself lol
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Reply #123 posted 08/16/07 10:52am

Empress

Same old long boring conversation about Elvis.


Get over it folks. Whether you like him or not, Elvis will always be the king of rock and roll. Whether you believe that or not, is irrelvant because people from all around the world loved him and they believe it and he has millions of fans everywhere and they will never let that die!

Whether it's race based or not, Elvis is Elvis!
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Reply #124 posted 08/16/07 1:22pm

mrsnet

Empress said:

Same old long boring conversation about Elvis.


Get over it folks. Whether you like him or not, Elvis will always be the king of rock and roll. Whether you believe that or not, is irrelvant because people from all around the world loved him

The ANGLOworld, my dear. Very little celebration or coverage elsewhere.
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Reply #125 posted 08/16/07 1:33pm

PFunkjazz

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I don't hate Elvis so much. I just love this song!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XrMl_9zxzqw
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Reply #126 posted 08/16/07 2:18pm

mrsnet

mrsnet said:

Empress said:

Same old long boring conversation about Elvis.


Get over it folks. Whether you like him or not, Elvis will always be the king of rock and roll. Whether you believe that or not, is irrelvant because people from all around the world loved him

The ANGLOworld, my dear. Very little celebration or coverage elsewhere.

To add: There ARE those 2 huge continents Asia & Africa, ya kno'. Peace.
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Reply #127 posted 08/16/07 2:29pm

Slave2daGroove

I've said this before and it's been said once here.

Know your music history and put it context with the social, technological and cultural signs of the times. With that information you can really layout who was influential and who was popular. Popularity and influencer's are two different things. Elvis influenced music, period.

The term "Haters" in this context is just plain ignorant. History has been written and the influence from artists has been documented. Everything else is just people voicing their opinions which doesn't change shit.
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Reply #128 posted 08/16/07 3:35pm

mrsnet

When studying History, take into account the recorder/recorders, called Historians. Ex.-Elvis sold more than a billion records, NOT.
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Reply #129 posted 08/16/07 3:56pm

funkpill

Slave2daGroove said:

I've said this before and it's been said once here.

Know your music history and put it context with the social, technological and cultural signs of the times. With that information you can really layout who was influential and who was popular. Popularity and influencer's are two different things. Elvis influenced music, period.

The term "Haters" in this context is just plain ignorant. History has been written and the influence from artists has been documented. Everything else is just people voicing their opinions which doesn't change shit.



He was at the right place at the right time.

And yes...his skin tone played a part in it.

He couldn't influenced som'thing that was already there.

I'll say it again...White parents didn't want their daughters creamin and yearnin for no black entertainer....That's why Elvis was acceptable to them.

He was doing som'n black w/ a white face.

Don't get me wrong...I think he's a great singer...No doubt

But its the masses I have a problem with.

oh gawd...i said i wasn't gonna do this lol
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Reply #130 posted 08/16/07 4:01pm

Illustrator

Rhondab said:

jjhunsecker said:

perhaps one of the 4 or 5 greatest singers ever




eek

Well....
in the context of hillbilly lore,
maybe....
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Reply #131 posted 08/16/07 7:35pm

Slave2daGroove

funkpill said:

Slave2daGroove said:

I've said this before and it's been said once here.

Know your music history and put it context with the social, technological and cultural signs of the times. With that information you can really layout who was influential and who was popular. Popularity and influencer's are two different things. Elvis influenced music, period.

The term "Haters" in this context is just plain ignorant. History has been written and the influence from artists has been documented. Everything else is just people voicing their opinions which doesn't change shit.



He was at the right place at the right time.

And yes...his skin tone played a part in it.

He couldn't influenced som'thing that was already there.

I'll say it again...White parents didn't want their daughters creamin and yearnin for no black entertainer....That's why Elvis was acceptable to them.

He was doing som'n black w/ a white face.

Don't get me wrong...I think he's a great singer...No doubt

But its the masses I have a problem with.

oh gawd...i said i wasn't gonna do this lol


When I said look at the social and cultural signs of the times, yeah, I was talking about this. Also his sexual "Elvis the Pelvis" that couldn't be shown on television.
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Reply #132 posted 08/16/07 8:19pm

jjhunsecker

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Illustrator said:

Rhondab said:





eek

Well....
in the context of hillbilly lore,
maybe....


If you cut throug all the bullshit, and actually
listento the man's amazing voice, you'd probably learn something
#SOCIETYDEFINESU
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Reply #133 posted 08/16/07 8:55pm

Raze

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funkpill said:

Slave2daGroove said:

I've said this before and it's been said once here.

Know your music history and put it context with the social, technological and cultural signs of the times. With that information you can really layout who was influential and who was popular. Popularity and influencer's are two different things. Elvis influenced music, period.

The term "Haters" in this context is just plain ignorant. History has been written and the influence from artists has been documented. Everything else is just people voicing their opinions which doesn't change shit.



He was at the right place at the right time.

And yes...his skin tone played a part in it.

He couldn't influenced som'thing that was already there.

I'll say it again...White parents didn't want their daughters creamin and yearnin for no black entertainer....That's why Elvis was acceptable to them.

He was doing som'n black w/ a white face.

Don't get me wrong...I think he's a great singer...No doubt

But its the masses I have a problem with.

oh gawd...i said i wasn't gonna do this lol



If it weren't for Elvis being "at the right place at the right time" with his "skin color helping" "something that was already there" which had a great love and passion for, then rock & roll would have died as another 15 minute fad.

Elvis had a deep impact on both popular music and popular culture. Hell, culture in general. He's the reason every kid in America went from wanting to aspire to the presidency to every kid in America wanting to be a rock & roll star. His impact on our lives is enormous.
"Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran
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Reply #134 posted 08/16/07 9:24pm

funkpill

Raze said:

funkpill said:




He was at the right place at the right time.

And yes...his skin tone played a part in it.

He couldn't influenced som'thing that was already there.

I'll say it again...White parents didn't want their daughters creamin and yearnin for no black entertainer....That's why Elvis was acceptable to them.

He was doing som'n black w/ a white face.

Don't get me wrong...I think he's a great singer...No doubt

But its the masses I have a problem with.

oh gawd...i said i wasn't gonna do this lol



If it weren't for Elvis being "at the right place at the right time" with his "skin color helping" "something that was already there" which had a great love and passion for, then rock & roll would have died as another 15 minute fad.

Elvis had a deep impact on both popular music and popular culture. Hell, culture in general. He's the reason every kid in America went from wanting to aspire to the presidency to every kid in America wanting to be a rock & roll star. His impact on our lives is enormous.




I could touch this, but I'm not lol
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Reply #135 posted 08/16/07 9:36pm

Raze

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funkpill said:

Raze said:




If it weren't for Elvis being "at the right place at the right time" with his "skin color helping" "something that was already there" which had a great love and passion for, then rock & roll would have died as another 15 minute fad.

Elvis had a deep impact on both popular music and popular culture. Hell, culture in general. He's the reason every kid in America went from wanting to aspire to the presidency to every kid in America wanting to be a rock & roll star. His impact on our lives is enormous.




I could touch this, but I'm not lol



You really can't, so don't bother.
"Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran
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Reply #136 posted 08/17/07 3:46am

funkpill

Raze said:

funkpill said:





I could touch this, but I'm not lol



You really can't, so don't bother.





Oh I could my friend, but it's not worth it...


dayummm!! felled into the bait....disbelief
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Reply #137 posted 08/17/07 6:03am

uPtoWnNY

funkpill said:

He was at the right place at the right time.

And yes...his skin tone played a part in it.

He couldn't influenced som'thing that was already there.

I'll say it again...White parents didn't want their daughters creamin and yearnin for no black entertainer....That's why Elvis was acceptable to them.

He was doing som'n black w/ a white face.

Don't get me wrong...I think he's a great singer...No doubt

But its the masses I have a problem with.

oh gawd...i said i wasn't gonna do this lol




Co-sign.
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Reply #138 posted 08/17/07 10:07am

Raze

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funkpill said:

Raze said:




You really can't, so don't bother.





Oh I could my friend, but it's not worth it...


dayummm!! felled into the bait....disbelief



either do it or don't, but quit talking about it. but since you can't, you won't bother. shrug
"Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran
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Reply #139 posted 08/17/07 2:29pm

funkpill

Raze said:

funkpill said:






Oh I could my friend, but it's not worth it...


dayummm!! felled into the bait....disbelief



either do it or don't, but quit talking about it. but since you can't, you won't bother. shrug



bored



not fallin' for the bait this time

brushteeth
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Reply #140 posted 08/17/07 2:30pm

MsLegs

funkpill said:

Raze said:




either do it or don't, but quit talking about it. but since you can't, you won't bother. shrug



bored



not fallin' for the bait this time

brushteeth

nod Let it ride
[Edited 8/17/07 14:31pm]
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Reply #141 posted 08/17/07 2:33pm

funkpill

MsLegs said:

funkpill said:




bored



not fallin' for the bait this time

brushteeth

nod Let it ride
[Edited 8/17/07 14:31pm]



yeah.... cool


What's happen'n Legs??? kotc



biggrin
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Reply #142 posted 08/17/07 2:37pm

MsLegs

funkpill said:

MsLegs said:


nod Let it ride
[Edited 8/17/07 14:31pm]



yeah.... cool


What's happen'n Legs??? kotc



biggrin

Hey Pill. TGIF! cool party
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Reply #143 posted 08/17/07 2:39pm

funkpill

MsLegs said:

funkpill said:




yeah.... cool


What's happen'n Legs??? kotc



biggrin

Hey Pill. TGIF! cool party



Indeed!! woot!


I rather kiss on you kotc than talk about Elvis...


lol Just a waste of typing...


wink
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Reply #144 posted 08/17/07 2:42pm

MsLegs

funkpill said:

MsLegs said:


Hey Pill. TGIF! cool party



Indeed!! woot!


I rather kiss on you kotc than talk about Elvis...


lol Just a waste of typing...


wink

razz Pill I'm spoken for so don't get to fresh now.no no no!
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Reply #145 posted 08/17/07 2:45pm

funkpill

dang!! always the good ones taken
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Reply #146 posted 08/17/07 3:02pm

MsLegs

funkpill said:

dang!! always the good ones taken

wink biggrin
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Reply #147 posted 08/18/07 4:18pm

kev1n

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TotalAlisa said:

i don't want to offend anyone... but i think elvis is really big in white society... but not many asians, blacks, or latinos care or even know any songs from elvis.... EVERYONE ONE KNOWS MICHAEL JACKSON...



let's ask this guy:
It was not in vain...it was in Minneapolis!
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Reply #148 posted 08/18/07 11:09pm

Eileen

kev1n said:

TotalAlisa said:

i don't want to offend anyone... but i think elvis is really big in white society... but not many asians, blacks, or latinos care or even know any songs from elvis.... EVERYONE ONE KNOWS MICHAEL JACKSON...



let's ask this guy:




or perhaps check with the woman passing by the Elvis statue in downtown Tokyo:

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