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Reply #30 posted 08/11/07 2:07pm

Timmy84

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"Don't Mess With Mister 'T'" is BOSS! cool


yes, but i'm just fallin' in love with that funktastic jam called "T" Plays It Cool! cool


Ah hell yeah. I repeat that joint every time it plays! headbang Just wanna get on down when that joint plays!!! Marvin played funky keyboard on this and I believe he was also on the drums. I could tell because the beat was so Marvin's anyway. Again kudos to Trevor Lawrence on sax. cool
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Reply #31 posted 08/11/07 2:11pm

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Timmy84 said:

silverchild said:



yes, but i'm just fallin' in love with that funktastic jam called "T" Plays It Cool! cool


Ah hell yeah. I repeat that joint every time it plays! headbang Just wanna get on down when that joint plays!!! Marvin played funky keyboard on this and I believe he was also on the drums. I could tell because the beat was so Marvin's anyway. Again kudos to Trevor Lawrence on sax. cool


He played drums on that track? I guess it's true that u learn something new everyday, huh? biggrin
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Reply #32 posted 08/11/07 2:16pm

Timmy84

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Ah hell yeah. I repeat that joint every time it plays! headbang Just wanna get on down when that joint plays!!! Marvin played funky keyboard on this and I believe he was also on the drums. I could tell because the beat was so Marvin's anyway. Again kudos to Trevor Lawrence on sax. cool


He played drums on that track? I guess it's true that u learn something new everyday, huh? biggrin


Yeah, I think he did because I checked the credits of the album online and Marvin's the only one listed as having played drums on it. Wouldn't surprise me, he played drums AND piano on his early hit "Hitch Hike" so it's possible to play both drums and keyboards on a single track, in Marvin's case, every song on the album. nod

Did you know Marvin played drums on most of the early Motown hits ("Shop Around", "Please Mr. Postman", "Fingertips")? biggrin

Plus there's a cool part in Marvin's Montreux '80 performance where he played the battle of the drummers between him and the drummer of his band, it was actually percussion Marvin was playing though. The drummer had a funky beat and Marvin just meshed in. He played extremely well considering he was playing the drums up front, lol.
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Reply #33 posted 08/11/07 2:21pm

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The only downside to this album (listening to it present day) are the synth sounds being used.
(which give some tracks a rather dated quality)

The melodies/grooves save most of them though.

tA

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Reply #34 posted 08/11/07 2:26pm

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Timmy84 said:

silverchild said:



He played drums on that track? I guess it's true that u learn something new everyday, huh? biggrin


Yeah, I think he did because I checked the credits of the album online and Marvin's the only one listed as having played drums on it. Wouldn't surprise me, he played drums AND piano on his early hit "Hitch Hike" so it's possible to play both drums and keyboards on a single track, in Marvin's case, every song on the album. nod

Did you know Marvin played drums on most of the early Motown hits ("Shop Around", "Please Mr. Postman", "Fingertips")? biggrin

Plus there's a cool part in Marvin's Montreux '80 performance where he played the battle of the drummers between him and the drummer of his band, it was actually percussion Marvin was playing though. The drummer had a funky beat and Marvin just meshed in. He played extremely well considering he was playing the drums up front, lol.


I too have seen that Montreux performance and that drum showdown was spellbinding. I have to get that his Montreux CD and DVD soon! I neva, however, knew that Marvin was the session on most of those early Motown smashes. Wow!
[Edited 8/11/07 14:29pm]
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Reply #35 posted 08/11/07 3:20pm

Timmy84

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The only downside to this album (listening to it present day) are the synth sounds being used.
(which give some tracks a rather dated quality)

The melodies/grooves save most of them though.

tA

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Yeah but to me it just adds to the vibe, I can see how it'll be a damper to some but I love it. smile
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Reply #36 posted 08/11/07 3:21pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:



Yeah, I think he did because I checked the credits of the album online and Marvin's the only one listed as having played drums on it. Wouldn't surprise me, he played drums AND piano on his early hit "Hitch Hike" so it's possible to play both drums and keyboards on a single track, in Marvin's case, every song on the album. nod

Did you know Marvin played drums on most of the early Motown hits ("Shop Around", "Please Mr. Postman", "Fingertips")? biggrin

Plus there's a cool part in Marvin's Montreux '80 performance where he played the battle of the drummers between him and the drummer of his band, it was actually percussion Marvin was playing though. The drummer had a funky beat and Marvin just meshed in. He played extremely well considering he was playing the drums up front, lol.


I too have seen that Montreux performance and that drum showdown was spellbinding. I have to get that his Montreux CD and DVD soon! I neva, however, knew that Marvin was the session on most of those early Motown smashes. Wow!
[Edited 8/11/07 14:29pm]


Yep. smile Marvin's truly UNDERRATED, it's a crying shame, lol.
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Reply #37 posted 08/11/07 6:35pm

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Reply #38 posted 08/11/07 7:40pm

Timmy84

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lol Thanks for that, that trailer was funny as was most blaxplotation films... lol

(phone ringing)
T: Yeah?
Pete: This is Pete Cockrell, I wanna speak to Chalky.
T: This is T. Chalky dead. Now I'm coming to get yo honky ass.


lol He sure "played it cool". cool
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Reply #39 posted 08/11/07 7:54pm

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How many people have actually covered "Trouble Man" though? I can probably count it on my fingers alone...

Yeah, mostly by Jazz & Blues artists which makes perfect sense...



...Grover Washington Jr. & Buddy Guy for example.



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Neneh Cherry does a serviceable version on her Man cd.
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Reply #40 posted 08/11/07 8:06pm

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Neneh Cherry does a serviceable version on her Man cd.

So did Blowfly...



...sort of. wink


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Reply #41 posted 08/11/07 9:06pm

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theAudience said:

sosgemini said:


Neneh Cherry does a serviceable version on her Man cd.

So did Blowfly...



...sort of. wink


oh lawd, I can only imagine giggle
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Reply #42 posted 08/11/07 9:15pm

Timmy84

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So did Blowfly...



...sort of. wink


oh lawd, I can only imagine giggle


I don't even wanna attempt to find out if it's a "sort of". lol
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Reply #43 posted 08/11/07 9:42pm

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who the hell is blowfly? confuse
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Reply #44 posted 08/11/07 10:02pm

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who the hell is blowfly? confuse

His real name is...



...Clarence Reid.

Initially was a successful staff writer/producer/musician for TK Records and wrote these recognizable tunes...

Betty Wright - Baby Sitter, Clean Up Woman
Gwen McCrae - Rockin' Chair
KC and The Sunshine Band - Sound Your Funky Horn

...among many others.

He's even got a co-writing credit on Beyonce's Upgrade U.


For some unknown reason in 1971 he started doing X-Rated tunes using...



...Blowfly as his alter-ego.



tA

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Reply #45 posted 08/11/07 10:08pm

Timmy84

theAudience said:

sosgemini said:

who the hell is blowfly? confuse

His real name is...



...Clarence Reid.

Initially was a successful staff writer/producer/musician for TK Records and wrote these recognizable tunes...

Betty Wright - Baby Sitter, Clean Up Woman
Gwen McCrae - Rockin' Chair
KC and The Sunshine Band - Sound Your Funky Horn

...among many others.

He's even got a co-writing credit on Beyonce's Upgrade U.


For some unknown reason in 1971 he started doing X-Rated tunes using...



...Blowfly as his alter-ego.



tA

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Oh shit, no wonder I didn't know he was. Good looking out! biggrin
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Reply #46 posted 08/12/07 1:27am

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Is there a deluxe edition of the Trouble Man album? Where can I get it?


He/she was probably confused by the In Our Lifetime or Let's Get It On or I Want You or What's Going On deluxe editions because as far as I know there's no deluxe edition to Trouble Man unless he/she bought the remastered version. shrug


Well, it almost happened in 2005. There were really only a handful of Trouble Man outtakes and the powers that be didn't really feel they warranted a deluxe edition. To compensate for the lack of outtakes, there were plans to release the special edition remastered with the original LP & the handful of outtakes on disc one. Disc two was planned to be the DVD of the movie... unfortunately there were already plans to re-release the film on DVD in early 2006.

The Here My Dear Special Edition is planned for release later this year.
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Reply #47 posted 08/12/07 3:37am

Timmy84

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He/she was probably confused by the In Our Lifetime or Let's Get It On or I Want You or What's Going On deluxe editions because as far as I know there's no deluxe edition to Trouble Man unless he/she bought the remastered version. shrug


Well, it almost happened in 2005. There were really only a handful of Trouble Man outtakes and the powers that be didn't really feel they warranted a deluxe edition. To compensate for the lack of outtakes, there were plans to release the special edition remastered with the original LP & the handful of outtakes on disc one. Disc two was planned to be the DVD of the movie... unfortunately there were already plans to re-release the film on DVD in early 2006.

The Here My Dear Special Edition is planned for release later this year.


OH! Ok. smile

Glad to hear the Here My Dear album will be re-released soon. cool
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Reply #48 posted 08/12/07 7:33am

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The only downside to this album (listening to it present day) are the synth sounds being used.
(which give some tracks a rather dated quality)

The melodies/grooves save most of them though.

tA

nod Exactly.
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Reply #49 posted 08/12/07 10:45am

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The Here My Dear Special Edition is planned for release later this year.


Only Marvin could do some cool s**t like that - the whole story behind that album still trips me out to this day.
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Reply #50 posted 08/12/07 10:50am

Timmy84

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bsk3601 said:


The Here My Dear Special Edition is planned for release later this year.


Only Marvin could do some cool s**t like that - the whole story behind that album still trips me out to this day.


I'm saying! No other artist has dared attempt something so personal like that! But the way he produced it was so sublime you almost don't notice. cool
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Reply #51 posted 08/12/07 1:29pm

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It's like a real, cool, "here take this and f**k you" to Anna.
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Reply #52 posted 08/12/07 1:52pm

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It's like a real, cool, "here take this and f**k you" to Anna.


For real! It's probably the best f**k you, break-up album ever made. Screw Fleetwood Mac's Rumors. I mean, this was, and still is the real thing because it came from the tortured soul from one of the most brilliant, yet troubled soul men, in all his flawed glory. The melodies are simple and jazzy, the mood is lush, fearful and gloomy, and even when Marvin is stoned on drugs here, he is still straight on. Listen to that line he screams in When Did I Stop Loving You, When Did You Stop Loving Me: Do you remember, All of the ... BULLSHIT, BABY?!". This is definitely Marvin's second magnum opus, next to What's Going On. This is what REAL soul music is all about. I'm glad it's getting the deluxe treatment sometime this year!
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Reply #53 posted 08/12/07 2:16pm

Timmy84

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It's like a real, cool, "here take this and f**k you" to Anna.


For real! It's probably the best f**k you, break-up album ever made. Screw Fleetwood Mac's Rumors. I mean, this was, and still is the real thing because it came from the tortured soul from one of the most brilliant, yet troubled soul men, in all his flawed glory. The melodies are simple and jazzy, the mood is lush, fearful and gloomy, and even when Marvin is stoned on drugs here, he is still straight on. Listen to that line he screams in When Did I Stop Loving You, When Did You Stop Loving Me: Do you remember, All of the ... BULLSHIT, BABY?!". This is definitely Marvin's second magnum opus, next to What's Going On. This is what REAL soul music is all about. I'm glad it's getting the deluxe treatment sometime this year!


Drama for the soul. No one was able to bring the dramatics vocally and musically quite like Marvin could.
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Reply #54 posted 08/12/07 5:40pm

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It's like a real, cool, "here take this and f**k you" to Anna.

lol
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