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ehuffnsd said: speak for yourself and use I statements. Nobody takes your Madonna serioulsy, garbage talentless artist...  |
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moderatornewskin69 said: Sure, one can say that she doesn't compose it by herself. Well neither does MJ, at least for the most part.
Oh f... you! I know it's a bit off-topic, but I’m so sick and tired of people diminishing his impact as a songwriter! Of the roughly 130 songs he has released in his adult career (I'm counting CBS/Sony stuff only) he is either a writer or co-writer on about 95 songs and of those songs he has written about 40 completely on his own! And those are only the songs which have been released (also not included are songs he has written for others)! Someone posted this list a while ago and I’ve added the Jacksons songs written by him: Off The Wall (1979) 1. Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough (Jackson) - became a hit 2. Rock With You (Temperton) - became a hit 3. Working Day and Night (Jackson) 4. Get on the Floor (Jackson/Johnson) 5. Off the Wall (Temperton) - became a hit 6. Girlfriend (McCartney) 7. She's Out of My Life (Bahler) - became a hit 8. I Can't Help It (Greene/Wonder) 9. It's the Falling in Love (Foster/Sager) 10. Burn This Disco Out (Temperton) Thriller (1982) 1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' (Jackson) - became a hit 2. Baby Be Mine (Temperton) 3. The Girl Is Mine (Jackson) - became a hit 4. Thriller (Temperton) - became a hit 5. Beat It (Jackson) - became a hit 6. Billie Jean (Jackson) - became a hit 7. Human Nature (Bettis/Porcaro) - became a hit 8. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing) (Ingram/Jones) 9. The Lady in My Life (Temperton) Bad (1987) 1. Bad (Jackson) - became a hit 2. The Way You Make Me Feel (Jackson) - became a hit 3. Speed Demon (Jackson) - became a hit 4. Liberian Girl (Jackson) - became a hit 5. Just Good Friends (Britten/Lyle) 6. Another Part of Me (Jackson) - became a hit 7. Man in the Mirror (Ballard/Garrett) - became a hit 8. I Just Can't Stop Loving You (Jackson) - became a hit 9. Dirty Diana (Jackson) - became a hit 10. Smooth Criminal (Jackson) - became a hit 11. Leave Me Alone (Jackson) - became a hit 12. Streetwalker (Jackson) 13. Fly Away (Jackson) Dangerous (1991) 1. Jam (Song and Lyrics: Jackson; Music: Moore/Swedien/Jackson /Riley) - became a hit 2. Why You Wanna Trip on Me (Belle/Riley) - became a hit 3. In the Closet (Jackson/Riley) - became a hit 4. She Drives Me Wild (Jackson/Riley/Davidson) 5. Remember the Time (Riley/Jackson/ Belle) - became a hit 6. Can't Let Her Get Away (Jackson/Riley) 7. Heal the World (Jackson) - became a hit 8. Black or White (Jackson; Rap: Bottrell) - became a hit 9. Who Is It (Jackson) - became a hit 10. Give in to Me (Jackson/Bottrell) - became a hit 11. Will You Be There (Jackson) - became a hit 12. Keep the Faith (Ballard/Garrett/Jackson) 13. Gone Too Soon (Grossman/Kohan) 14. Dangerous (Jackson/Bottrell/ Riley) HIStory (1995) 1. Scream (Harris/Lewis/Jackson/Jackson) - became a hit 2. They Don't Care About Us (Jackson) - became a hit 3. Stranger in Moscow (Jackson) - became a hit 4. This Time Around (Song and Lyrics: Jackson; Music: Austin/Rene/Swedien) 5. Earth Song (Jackson) - became a hit 6. D.S. (Jackson) 7. Money (Jackson) 8. Come Together (Lennon/McCartney) 9. You Are Not Alone (Kelly) - became a hit 10. Childhood (Jackson) - became a hit 11. Tabloid Junkie (Jackson/ Harris/Lewis) 12. 2 Bad (Song and Lyrics: Jackson; Music: Austin/Rene/Swedien) 13. History (Jackson/Harris/ Lewis) 14. Little Susie (Jackson) 15. Smile (Chaplin/Parsons) Blood On The Dance Floor (1997) 1. Blood on the Dance Floor (Jackson/Riley) - became a hit 2. Morphine (Jackson) 3. Superfly Sister (Written: Jackson; Composed: Jackson/Loren) 4. Ghosts (Jackson/Riley) - became a hit 5 Is It Scary (Jackson/Harris/ Lewis) Invincible (2001) 1. Unbreakable (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/ Daniels/Payne/Smith) 2. Heartbreaker (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/ Daniels /Mischke/Gregg) 3. Invincible (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels/Gregg/) 4. Break of Dawn (Dr. Freeze/Jackson) 5. Heaven Can Wait (Jackson/Riley/ Heard/Smith/Beal/Laues/Quiller) 6. You Rock My World (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels/Payne) - became a hit 7. Butterflies (Ambrosius/Harris) 8. Speechless (Jackson) 9. 2000 Watts (Jackson/Riley/Gibson/Henson) 10. You Are My Life (Jackson/Babyface/Sager/McClain) 11. Privacy (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels/Belle) 12. Don't Walk Away (Jackson/Riley/Sities/Vertelney) 13. Cry (Kelly) - became a hit 14. The Lost Children (Jackson) 15. Whatever Happens (Jackson/Riley/Cang/Quay/Williams) 16. Threatened (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels) The Ultimate Collection (2004) 17. Sunset Driver (Jackson) 9. Scared of the moon (Jackson/Kohan) 10. We are the world (Jackson/Richie) 11. We are here to change the world (Jackson/Barnes) 7. Cheater (Jackson/Phillinganes) 9. Monkey Business (Jackson/Bottrell) 14. Someone put your hand out (Jackson/Riley) 4. On the line (Jackson) 7. In the back (Jackson) 11. Beautiful Girl (Jackson) 12. The way you love me (Jackson) 13. We’ve had enough (Jackson/Jerkins/Daniels/Sager) The Jacksons (only songs written/sung by Michael) The Jacksons (1976) (contractually only allowed to write 2 songs) 1. Enjoy yourself (Gamble/Huff) 2. Think happy (Gamble/Huff) 3. Good times (Gamble/Huff) 4. Keep on dancing (Wansel) 5. Blues Away (M. Jackson) 6. Show you the way to go (Gamble/Huff) 8. Strength of one man (McFadden/Whitehead/Carstaphen) 9. Dreamer (Gamble/Huff) 10. Style of Live (T. Jackson/M. Jackson) Going Places (1977) (contractually only allowed to write 2 songs) 1. Music’s taking over (Whitehead/McFadden/Carstarphen) 2. Going Places (Gamble/Huff) 3. Different Kind Of Lady (M. Jackson/T. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson/J. Jackson) 4. Even though you’re gone (Gamble/Huff) 5. Jump for Joy (Wansel/Biggs) 6. Heaven knows I love you, girl (Gamble/Huff) 7. Man of war (Gamble/Huff) 8. Do What You Wanna (M. Jackson/T. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson/J. Jackson) Destiny (1978) (first album with full creative control) 1. Blame it on the boogie (M. Jackson/D. Jackson/Krohn) - became a hit 2. Push me away (T. Jackson/J. Jackson/M. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson) 3. Things I do for you (T. Jackson/J. Jackson/M. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson) - became a hit 4. Shake your body (R. Jackson/M. Jackson) - became a hit 5. Destiny (T. Jackson/J. Jackson/M. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson) 6. Bless his soul (T. Jackson/J. Jackson/M. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson) 7. All night dancing (R. Jackson/M. Jackson) 8. That’s what you get (for being polite) (R. Jackson/M. Jackson) Triumph (1980) 1. Can you feel it (M. Jackson/J. Jackson) - became a hit 2. Lovely One (M. Jackson/R. Jackson) - became a hit 3. Your ways (J. Jackson) 4. Everybody (M. Jackson/T. Jackson/M. McKinney) 5. This place hotel (M. Jackson) - became a hit 6. Time waits for no one (J. Jackson/R. Jackson) 7. Walk right now (M. Jackson/J. Jackson/R. Jackson) 8. Give it up (M. Jackson/R. Jackson) 9. Wondering Who (J. Jackson/R. Jackson) Victory (1984) 4. Be not always (M. Jackson) 5. State of shock (Music: M. Jackson; Lyrics: M. Jackson/R. Hansen) - became a hit 7. The Hurt (M. Jackson/R. Jackson/D. Paich/S. Porcaro) [Edited 8/31/07 18:33pm] [Edited 8/31/07 18:37pm] | |
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midnightmover said: Here's where Madonna's phenomenal luck came into play. She herself describes this period as "an all time low". Both professionally and personally she felt completely burned out and thought about quitting. She told Rupert Everett "I asked myself, what am I doing this for? It's such hard work". Then fate intervened. Evita came along. They'd been trying to make this film for 30 years and the elements had never come together. Now finally, it was going to happen and the timing could not have been more perfect for Madonna. On a personal level, it gave her an escape from herself, becoming this other icon for a year. Plus the fact that the role so eerily and spookily echoed her own life meant she was a natural to get the part even though she can't act. The fact that there was no spoken dialogue was also a blessing for her as it meant her acting deficiencies would be less obvious (though they're still plain to see if you're looking ). It was already known as an incredibly succesful play so it was always going to be a hit. This meant Madonna was able to rid herself of the stigma that had hovered over her since Sex. It also smoothed her transition into middle age and "respectability" which was another issue she was having to think about at the time. In short, it was a god send. Without it her life and career would have gone very differently. Janet Jackson must have wished for a similar godsend after nipplegate and Damita Jo. Sadly, the gods have not been so kind in her case.
Well, she just did a movie called "Why did I get married?"! Maybe (hopefully) that will be Janet's godsend! But other than that I agree with your assesement about Madonna! You could really watch the transition back in 1996 and you forgot to add that she also became a mother for the first time! So that really helped with her transition! | |
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krayzie said:[quote] SoulAlive said: LMAO When people speak or think of Michael, they talk about an AMAZING DANCER, an INCREDIBLE ARTIST, a GREAT SONGWRITER, a GREAT LIVCE PEROFMER that went wrong. Nobody has ever questionned MJ talent. They question his private life and the way he managed his career. This is what MJ is knowing for in the first place. If he died tomorrow, this is how people will remember him. BUT MADONNA ? Madonna is only known for selling a lot of records based on scandals and image NOT ON GREAT MUSIC OR TALENT. Madonna will always be seen as a talentless artist who happens to sell based on image/scanals/controversies. Don't forget that Madonna was supposed to be a one hit wonders in 80's. But she's a mart girl, she knew her talent would lead her nowhere, and understood that image and scadals SELL . SoulAlive said: Meanwhile,Madonna continues to grow and evolve.She's still doing amazing things with her career.In this decade alone,she's done three world tours that have grossed over $460 million.She's preparing another album and tour as we speak.I really don't care about "who's more talented".Go ahead and waste your time,arguing that Michael is more talented.The next time he gets accused of molesting a kid,go to the courthouse and try to make that argument.You will see that no one cares anymore. LOL MJ's talent will always be more relevant than Madonna's talent. ALWAYS. And Madonna has never been relevant artistically and musically in the first place. This is something you have to understand. MJ will always be regarded as a great artist no matter what happened in his life, He definitely made a BIGGER impact in music. But no doubt about it, nobody can't touch Madonna in terms of management, marketing and promotion. She's a business woman before being an artist, MJ is an artist first. Just because she still sells records doesn't make her more relevant musically and artistically. LOL And the fact that you need to bring accusations of molestation shows that how you lack arguments... my friend. I know it's hard for you to understand but despite all the controversies and mistakes MJ made in his career, MJ is still more respected than Madonna would never be . Madonna can still sell records and touring . She WILL NEVER BE CONSIDERED AS A GREAT ARTIST. NEVER EVER. And please stop talking about she grows and evolves, she always doing the same pop shit for the past 20 years. What you call evolving is making more scandals and changing styles. Musically and artistically she is the same pop artist making the same pop shit. Madonna can pretend to play guitar, NOBODY TAKES HER MUSIC SERIOULSY. She definitely the most overrated artist ever. She just an fashion icon more than anthing else. A One hit wonders that realized that she could still selling based on image. And I love how you say "I really don't care about "who's more talented", of course you don't want top care because YOU KNOW THAT MJ SHITS ALL OVER MADONNA. And like most Madonna fans, talent is not what matters to you... LOL If Michael is sooooo talented and sooooo gifted,how come he currently doesn't even have a record deal?  Why aren't the big record labels going out of their way to sign him to a new deal? Why isn't LiveNation knocking on his door to offer him a $180 million recording contract (which they are offering to Madonna)? Why do we keep hearing story after story of his financial problems and lawsuits for not paying his bills? If he didn't own that Beatles catalog,he would probably be bankrupt right now.The sad truth is,his talent is irrelevent.He has destroyed his career to the point where nobody cares about his "talent" anymore.I posted that mug shot to illustrate where his career is these days.No one's talking about his music,his singing,or his production/songwriting skills.No,those things don't matter anymore.Regardless of what you think about Madonna,she is still in the game.Michael isn't.You think Madonna is a no-talent joke,but guess who's laughing all the way to the bank?
Madonna and Prince are still recording,still releasing new music,and still touring.In other words,they're still focused on their art.Can you honestly say that this is the case with Michael too? [Edited 9/1/07 9:34am] | |
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SoulAlive said: krayzie said: LOL MJ's talent will always be more relevant than Madonna's talent. ALWAYS. And Madonna has never been relevant artistically and musically in the first place. This is something you have to understand. MJ will always be regarded as a great artist no matter what happened in his life, He definitely made a BIGGER impact in music. But no doubt about it, nobody can't touch Madonna in terms of management, marketing and promotion. She's a business woman before being an artist, MJ is an artist first. Just because she still sells records doesn't make her more relevant musically and artistically. LOL And the fact that you need to bring accusations of molestation shows that how you lack arguments... my friend. I know it's hard for you to understand but despite all the controversies and mistakes MJ made in his career, MJ is still more respected than Madonna would never be . Madonna can still sell records and touring . She WILL NEVER BE CONSIDERED AS A GREAT ARTIST. NEVER EVER. And please stop talking about she grows and evolves, she always doing the same pop shit for the past 20 years. What you call evolving is making more scandals and changing styles. Musically and artistically she is the same pop artist making the same pop shit. Madonna can pretend to play guitar, NOBODY TAKES HER MUSIC SERIOULSY. She definitely the most overrated artist ever. She just an fashion icon more than anthing else. A One hit wonders that realized that she could still selling based on image. And I love how you say "I really don't care about "who's more talented", of course you don't want top care because YOU KNOW THAT MJ SHITS ALL OVER MADONNA. And like most Madonna fans, talent is not what matters to you... LOL If Michael is sooooo talented and sooooo gifted,how come he currently doesn't even have a record deal? Why aren't the big record labels going out of their way to sign him to a new deal? Why isn't LiveNation knocking on his door to offer him a $180 million recording contract (which they are offering to Madonna)? Why do we keep hearing story after story of his financial problems and lawsuits for not paying his bills? If he didn't own that Beatles catalog,he would probably be bankrupt right now.The sad truth is,his talent is irrelevent.He has destroyed his career to the point where nobody cares about his "talent" anymore.I posted that mug shot to illustrate where his career is these days.No one's talking about his music,his singing,or his production/songwriting skills.No,those things don't matter anymore.Regardless of what you think about Madonna,she is still in the game.Michael isn't.
Madonna and Prince are still recording,still releasing new music,and still touring.In other words,they're still focused on their art.Can you honestly say that this is the case with Michael too? [Edited 9/1/07 9:32am] SoulAlive: give it up. This debate has been going on for far too long. I think we have ALREADY established that both Madonna and Michael Jackson are not desperate for a hit. Madonna, because she will have a blockbuster album and tour regardless of how she charts in the US. Michael, because he does not seem to be desperate to release ANYTHING ANYTIME SOON. Before you know, krayzie will be here, again writing that Madonna is a "garbage, talentless artist," and you will respond again with the Michael Jackson mugshot... It is a vicious cycle that needs to end. | |
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SoulAlive said: krayzie said: LOL MJ's talent will always be more relevant than Madonna's talent. ALWAYS. And Madonna has never been relevant artistically and musically in the first place. This is something you have to understand. MJ will always be regarded as a great artist no matter what happened in his life, He definitely made a BIGGER impact in music. But no doubt about it, nobody can't touch Madonna in terms of management, marketing and promotion. She's a business woman before being an artist, MJ is an artist first. Just because she still sells records doesn't make her more relevant musically and artistically. LOL And the fact that you need to bring accusations of molestation shows that how you lack arguments... my friend. I know it's hard for you to understand but despite all the controversies and mistakes MJ made in his career, MJ is still more respected than Madonna would never be . Madonna can still sell records and touring . She WILL NEVER BE CONSIDERED AS A GREAT ARTIST. NEVER EVER. And please stop talking about she grows and evolves, she always doing the same pop shit for the past 20 years. What you call evolving is making more scandals and changing styles. Musically and artistically she is the same pop artist making the same pop shit. Madonna can pretend to play guitar, NOBODY TAKES HER MUSIC SERIOULSY. She definitely the most overrated artist ever. She just an fashion icon more than anthing else. A One hit wonders that realized that she could still selling based on image. And I love how you say "I really don't care about "who's more talented", of course you don't want top care because YOU KNOW THAT MJ SHITS ALL OVER MADONNA. And like most Madonna fans, talent is not what matters to you... LOL If Michael is sooooo talented and sooooo gifted,how come he currently doesn't even have a record deal? Why aren't the big record labels going out of their way to sign him to a new deal? Why isn't LiveNation knocking on his door to offer him a $180 million recording contract (which they are offering to Madonna)? Why do we keep hearing story after story of his financial problems and lawsuits for not paying his bills? If he didn't own that Beatles catalog,he would probably be bankrupt right now.The sad truth is,his talent is irrelevent.He has destroyed his career to the point where nobody cares about his "talent" anymore.I posted that mug shot to illustrate where his career is these days.No one's talking about his music,his singing,or his production/songwriting skills.No,those things don't matter anymore.Regardless of what you think about Madonna,she is still in the game.Michael isn't.You think Madonna is a no-talent joke,but guess who's laughing all the way to the bank? Ok did you read my post ??? Because if you did read properly my post, I've already answered why. Madonna has managed his career and private life better than Mike. That's it. I hope you will understand this time. That's why Madonna is still there making and selling crap albums and doing crap concerts. Evereybody knows Madonna sucks and has no talent to save her life. She has never been relevant artistically and musically in the first place and never will be. SoulAlive said: Madonna and Prince are still recording,still releasing new music,and still touring.In other words,they're still focused on their art.Can you honestly say that this is the case with Michael too? [Edited 9/1/07 9:34am] Prince is a great artist Madonna is not. That's a big difference. Prince is talented, Madonna is not. [Edited 9/1/07 9:58am] |
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well,at least we finally agree that MJ has fucked up his career and Madonna hasn't We're making progress here,lol | |
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SoulAlive said: well,at least we finally agree that MJ has fucked up his career and Madonna hasn't
We're making progress here,lolKrayzie has said that several times already. Have you been reading his posts? | |
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PatrickS77 said: midnightmover said: Here's where Madonna's phenomenal luck came into play. She herself describes this period as "an all time low". Both professionally and personally she felt completely burned out and thought about quitting. She told Rupert Everett "I asked myself, what am I doing this for? It's such hard work". Then fate intervened. Evita came along. They'd been trying to make this film for 30 years and the elements had never come together. Now finally, it was going to happen and the timing could not have been more perfect for Madonna. On a personal level, it gave her an escape from herself, becoming this other icon for a year. Plus the fact that the role so eerily and spookily echoed her own life meant she was a natural to get the part even though she can't act. The fact that there was no spoken dialogue was also a blessing for her as it meant her acting deficiencies would be less obvious (though they're still plain to see if you're looking ). It was already known as an incredibly succesful play so it was always going to be a hit. This meant Madonna was able to rid herself of the stigma that had hovered over her since Sex. It also smoothed her transition into middle age and "respectability" which was another issue she was having to think about at the time. In short, it was a god send. Without it her life and career would have gone very differently. Janet Jackson must have wished for a similar godsend after nipplegate and Damita Jo. Sadly, the gods have not been so kind in her case.
Well, she just did a movie called "Why did I get married?"! Maybe (hopefully) that will be Janet's godsend! But other than that I agree with your assesement about Madonna! You could really watch the transition back in 1996 and you forgot to add that she also became a mother for the first time! So that really helped with her transition! God, even the title is shit! And she's not even the star. Sorry homeboy, but that ain't gonna be no Evita! “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: PatrickS77 said: Well, she just did a movie called "Why did I get married?"! Maybe (hopefully) that will be Janet's godsend! But other than that I agree with your assesement about Madonna! You could really watch the transition back in 1996 and you forgot to add that she also became a mother for the first time! So that really helped with her transition! God, even the title is shit! And she's not even the star. Sorry homeboy, but that ain't gonna be no Evita! Avasdad: I apologize for hijacking your thread once again. Janet is not even the star of the movie....  | |
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Rodya24 said: midnightmover said: God, even the title is shit! And she's not even the star. Sorry homeboy, but that ain't gonna be no Evita! Avasdad: I apologize for hijacking your thread once again. Janet is not even the star of the movie.... What's the problem? “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: Rodya24 said: Avasdad: I apologize for hijacking your thread once again. Janet is not even the star of the movie.... What's the problem? I thought she was the star of the movie. I should have known better. I don't think I am going to see it. It sounds boring.... | |
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PatrickS77 said: newskin69 said: Sure, one can say that she doesn't compose it by herself. Well neither does MJ, at least for the most part.
Oh f... you! I know it's a bit off-topic, but I’m so sick and tired of people diminishing his impact as a songwriter! Of the roughly 130 songs he has released in his adult career (I'm counting CBS/Sony stuff only) he is either a writer or co-writer on about 95 songs and of those songs he has written about 40 completely on his own! And those are only the songs which have been released (also not included are songs he has written for others)! Someone posted this list a while ago and I’ve added the Jacksons songs written by him: Off The Wall (1979) 1. Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough (Jackson) - became a hit 2. Rock With You (Temperton) - became a hit 3. Working Day and Night (Jackson) 4. Get on the Floor (Jackson/Johnson) 5. Off the Wall (Temperton) - became a hit 6. Girlfriend (McCartney) 7. She's Out of My Life (Bahler) - became a hit 8. I Can't Help It (Greene/Wonder) 9. It's the Falling in Love (Foster/Sager) 10. Burn This Disco Out (Temperton) Thriller (1982) 1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' (Jackson) - became a hit 2. Baby Be Mine (Temperton) 3. The Girl Is Mine (Jackson) - became a hit 4. Thriller (Temperton) - became a hit 5. Beat It (Jackson) - became a hit 6. Billie Jean (Jackson) - became a hit 7. Human Nature (Bettis/Porcaro) - became a hit 8. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing) (Ingram/Jones) 9. The Lady in My Life (Temperton) Bad (1987) 1. Bad (Jackson) - became a hit 2. The Way You Make Me Feel (Jackson) - became a hit 3. Speed Demon (Jackson) - became a hit 4. Liberian Girl (Jackson) - became a hit 5. Just Good Friends (Britten/Lyle) 6. Another Part of Me (Jackson) - became a hit 7. Man in the Mirror (Ballard/Garrett) - became a hit 8. I Just Can't Stop Loving You (Jackson) - became a hit 9. Dirty Diana (Jackson) - became a hit 10. Smooth Criminal (Jackson) - became a hit 11. Leave Me Alone (Jackson) - became a hit 12. Streetwalker (Jackson) 13. Fly Away (Jackson) Dangerous (1991) 1. Jam (Song and Lyrics: Jackson; Music: Moore/Swedien/Jackson /Riley) - became a hit 2. Why You Wanna Trip on Me (Belle/Riley) - became a hit 3. In the Closet (Jackson/Riley) - became a hit 4. She Drives Me Wild (Jackson/Riley/Davidson) 5. Remember the Time (Riley/Jackson/ Belle) - became a hit 6. Can't Let Her Get Away (Jackson/Riley) 7. Heal the World (Jackson) - became a hit 8. Black or White (Jackson; Rap: Bottrell) - became a hit 9. Who Is It (Jackson) - became a hit 10. Give in to Me (Jackson/Bottrell) - became a hit 11. Will You Be There (Jackson) - became a hit 12. Keep the Faith (Ballard/Garrett/Jackson) 13. Gone Too Soon (Grossman/Kohan) 14. Dangerous (Jackson/Bottrell/ Riley) HIStory (1995) 1. Scream (Harris/Lewis/Jackson/Jackson) - became a hit 2. They Don't Care About Us (Jackson) - became a hit 3. Stranger in Moscow (Jackson) - became a hit 4. This Time Around (Song and Lyrics: Jackson; Music: Austin/Rene/Swedien) 5. Earth Song (Jackson) - became a hit 6. D.S. (Jackson) 7. Money (Jackson) 8. Come Together (Lennon/McCartney) 9. You Are Not Alone (Kelly) - became a hit 10. Childhood (Jackson) - became a hit 11. Tabloid Junkie (Jackson/ Harris/Lewis) 12. 2 Bad (Song and Lyrics: Jackson; Music: Austin/Rene/Swedien) 13. History (Jackson/Harris/ Lewis) 14. Little Susie (Jackson) 15. Smile (Chaplin/Parsons) Blood On The Dance Floor (1997) 1. Blood on the Dance Floor (Jackson/Riley) - became a hit 2. Morphine (Jackson) 3. Superfly Sister (Written: Jackson; Composed: Jackson/Loren) 4. Ghosts (Jackson/Riley) - became a hit 5 Is It Scary (Jackson/Harris/ Lewis) Invincible (2001) 1. Unbreakable (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/ Daniels/Payne/Smith) 2. Heartbreaker (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/ Daniels /Mischke/Gregg) 3. Invincible (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels/Gregg/) 4. Break of Dawn (Dr. Freeze/Jackson) 5. Heaven Can Wait (Jackson/Riley/ Heard/Smith/Beal/Laues/Quiller) 6. You Rock My World (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels/Payne) - became a hit 7. Butterflies (Ambrosius/Harris) 8. Speechless (Jackson) 9. 2000 Watts (Jackson/Riley/Gibson/Henson) 10. You Are My Life (Jackson/Babyface/Sager/McClain) 11. Privacy (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels/Belle) 12. Don't Walk Away (Jackson/Riley/Sities/Vertelney) 13. Cry (Kelly) - became a hit 14. The Lost Children (Jackson) 15. Whatever Happens (Jackson/Riley/Cang/Quay/Williams) 16. Threatened (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels) The Ultimate Collection (2004) 17. Sunset Driver (Jackson) 9. Scared of the moon (Jackson/Kohan) 10. We are the world (Jackson/Richie) 11. We are here to change the world (Jackson/Barnes) 7. Cheater (Jackson/Phillinganes) 9. Monkey Business (Jackson/Bottrell) 14. Someone put your hand out (Jackson/Riley) 4. On the line (Jackson) 7. In the back (Jackson) 11. Beautiful Girl (Jackson) 12. The way you love me (Jackson) 13. We’ve had enough (Jackson/Jerkins/Daniels/Sager) The Jacksons (only songs written/sung by Michael) The Jacksons (1976) (contractually only allowed to write 2 songs) 1. Enjoy yourself (Gamble/Huff) 2. Think happy (Gamble/Huff) 3. Good times (Gamble/Huff) 4. Keep on dancing (Wansel) 5. Blues Away (M. Jackson) 6. Show you the way to go (Gamble/Huff) 8. Strength of one man (McFadden/Whitehead/Carstaphen) 9. Dreamer (Gamble/Huff) 10. Style of Live (T. Jackson/M. Jackson) Going Places (1977) (contractually only allowed to write 2 songs) 1. Music’s taking over (Whitehead/McFadden/Carstarphen) 2. Going Places (Gamble/Huff) 3. Different Kind Of Lady (M. Jackson/T. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson/J. Jackson) 4. Even though you’re gone (Gamble/Huff) 5. Jump for Joy (Wansel/Biggs) 6. Heaven knows I love you, girl (Gamble/Huff) 7. Man of war (Gamble/Huff) 8. Do What You Wanna (M. Jackson/T. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson/J. Jackson) Destiny (1978) (first album with full creative control) 1. Blame it on the boogie (M. Jackson/D. Jackson/Krohn) - became a hit 2. Push me away (T. Jackson/J. Jackson/M. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson) 3. Things I do for you (T. Jackson/J. Jackson/M. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson) - became a hit 4. Shake your body (R. Jackson/M. Jackson) - became a hit 5. Destiny (T. Jackson/J. Jackson/M. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson) 6. Bless his soul (T. Jackson/J. Jackson/M. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson) 7. All night dancing (R. Jackson/M. Jackson) 8. That’s what you get (for being polite) (R. Jackson/M. Jackson) Triumph (1980) 1. Can you feel it (M. Jackson/J. Jackson) - became a hit 2. Lovely One (M. Jackson/R. Jackson) - became a hit 3. Your ways (J. Jackson) 4. Everybody (M. Jackson/T. Jackson/M. McKinney) 5. This place hotel (M. Jackson) - became a hit 6. Time waits for no one (J. Jackson/R. Jackson) 7. Walk right now (M. Jackson/J. Jackson/R. Jackson) 8. Give it up (M. Jackson/R. Jackson) 9. Wondering Who (J. Jackson/R. Jackson) Victory (1984) 4. Be not always (M. Jackson) 5. State of shock (Music: M. Jackson; Lyrics: M. Jackson/R. Hansen) - became a hit 7. The Hurt (M. Jackson/R. Jackson/D. Paich/S. Porcaro) [Edited 8/31/07 18:33pm] [Edited 8/31/07 18:37pm] How do you define "became a hit"? I haven't heard of many of the songs you describe as hits.  | |
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thedoorkeeper said: PatrickS77 said: Oh f... you! I know it's a bit off-topic, but I’m so sick and tired of people diminishing his impact as a songwriter! Of the roughly 130 songs he has released in his adult career (I'm counting CBS/Sony stuff only) he is either a writer or co-writer on about 95 songs and of those songs he has written about 40 completely on his own! And those are only the songs which have been released (also not included are songs he has written for others)! Someone posted this list a while ago and I’ve added the Jacksons songs written by him: Off The Wall (1979) 1. Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough (Jackson) - became a hit 2. Rock With You (Temperton) - became a hit 3. Working Day and Night (Jackson) 4. Get on the Floor (Jackson/Johnson) 5. Off the Wall (Temperton) - became a hit 6. Girlfriend (McCartney) 7. She's Out of My Life (Bahler) - became a hit 8. I Can't Help It (Greene/Wonder) 9. It's the Falling in Love (Foster/Sager) 10. Burn This Disco Out (Temperton) Thriller (1982) 1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' (Jackson) - became a hit 2. Baby Be Mine (Temperton) 3. The Girl Is Mine (Jackson) - became a hit 4. Thriller (Temperton) - became a hit 5. Beat It (Jackson) - became a hit 6. Billie Jean (Jackson) - became a hit 7. Human Nature (Bettis/Porcaro) - became a hit 8. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing) (Ingram/Jones) 9. The Lady in My Life (Temperton) Bad (1987) 1. Bad (Jackson) - became a hit 2. The Way You Make Me Feel (Jackson) - became a hit 3. Speed Demon (Jackson) - became a hit 4. Liberian Girl (Jackson) - became a hit 5. Just Good Friends (Britten/Lyle) 6. Another Part of Me (Jackson) - became a hit 7. Man in the Mirror (Ballard/Garrett) - became a hit 8. I Just Can't Stop Loving You (Jackson) - became a hit 9. Dirty Diana (Jackson) - became a hit 10. Smooth Criminal (Jackson) - became a hit 11. Leave Me Alone (Jackson) - became a hit 12. Streetwalker (Jackson) 13. Fly Away (Jackson) Dangerous (1991) 1. Jam (Song and Lyrics: Jackson; Music: Moore/Swedien/Jackson /Riley) - became a hit 2. Why You Wanna Trip on Me (Belle/Riley) - became a hit 3. In the Closet (Jackson/Riley) - became a hit 4. She Drives Me Wild (Jackson/Riley/Davidson) 5. Remember the Time (Riley/Jackson/ Belle) - became a hit 6. Can't Let Her Get Away (Jackson/Riley) 7. Heal the World (Jackson) - became a hit 8. Black or White (Jackson; Rap: Bottrell) - became a hit 9. Who Is It (Jackson) - became a hit 10. Give in to Me (Jackson/Bottrell) - became a hit 11. Will You Be There (Jackson) - became a hit 12. Keep the Faith (Ballard/Garrett/Jackson) 13. Gone Too Soon (Grossman/Kohan) 14. Dangerous (Jackson/Bottrell/ Riley) HIStory (1995) 1. Scream (Harris/Lewis/Jackson/Jackson) - became a hit 2. They Don't Care About Us (Jackson) - became a hit 3. Stranger in Moscow (Jackson) - became a hit 4. This Time Around (Song and Lyrics: Jackson; Music: Austin/Rene/Swedien) 5. Earth Song (Jackson) - became a hit 6. D.S. (Jackson) 7. Money (Jackson) 8. Come Together (Lennon/McCartney) 9. You Are Not Alone (Kelly) - became a hit 10. Childhood (Jackson) - became a hit 11. Tabloid Junkie (Jackson/ Harris/Lewis) 12. 2 Bad (Song and Lyrics: Jackson; Music: Austin/Rene/Swedien) 13. History (Jackson/Harris/ Lewis) 14. Little Susie (Jackson) 15. Smile (Chaplin/Parsons) Blood On The Dance Floor (1997) 1. Blood on the Dance Floor (Jackson/Riley) - became a hit 2. Morphine (Jackson) 3. Superfly Sister (Written: Jackson; Composed: Jackson/Loren) 4. Ghosts (Jackson/Riley) - became a hit 5 Is It Scary (Jackson/Harris/ Lewis) Invincible (2001) 1. Unbreakable (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/ Daniels/Payne/Smith) 2. Heartbreaker (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/ Daniels /Mischke/Gregg) 3. Invincible (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels/Gregg/) 4. Break of Dawn (Dr. Freeze/Jackson) 5. Heaven Can Wait (Jackson/Riley/ Heard/Smith/Beal/Laues/Quiller) 6. You Rock My World (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels/Payne) - became a hit 7. Butterflies (Ambrosius/Harris) 8. Speechless (Jackson) 9. 2000 Watts (Jackson/Riley/Gibson/Henson) 10. You Are My Life (Jackson/Babyface/Sager/McClain) 11. Privacy (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels/Belle) 12. Don't Walk Away (Jackson/Riley/Sities/Vertelney) 13. Cry (Kelly) - became a hit 14. The Lost Children (Jackson) 15. Whatever Happens (Jackson/Riley/Cang/Quay/Williams) 16. Threatened (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels) The Ultimate Collection (2004) 17. Sunset Driver (Jackson) 9. Scared of the moon (Jackson/Kohan) 10. We are the world (Jackson/Richie) 11. We are here to change the world (Jackson/Barnes) 7. Cheater (Jackson/Phillinganes) 9. Monkey Business (Jackson/Bottrell) 14. Someone put your hand out (Jackson/Riley) 4. On the line (Jackson) 7. In the back (Jackson) 11. Beautiful Girl (Jackson) 12. The way you love me (Jackson) 13. We’ve had enough (Jackson/Jerkins/Daniels/Sager) The Jacksons (only songs written/sung by Michael) The Jacksons (1976) (contractually only allowed to write 2 songs) 1. Enjoy yourself (Gamble/Huff) 2. Think happy (Gamble/Huff) 3. Good times (Gamble/Huff) 4. Keep on dancing (Wansel) 5. Blues Away (M. Jackson) 6. Show you the way to go (Gamble/Huff) 8. Strength of one man (McFadden/Whitehead/Carstaphen) 9. Dreamer (Gamble/Huff) 10. Style of Live (T. Jackson/M. Jackson) Going Places (1977) (contractually only allowed to write 2 songs) 1. Music’s taking over (Whitehead/McFadden/Carstarphen) 2. Going Places (Gamble/Huff) 3. Different Kind Of Lady (M. Jackson/T. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson/J. Jackson) 4. Even though you’re gone (Gamble/Huff) 5. Jump for Joy (Wansel/Biggs) 6. Heaven knows I love you, girl (Gamble/Huff) 7. Man of war (Gamble/Huff) 8. Do What You Wanna (M. Jackson/T. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson/J. Jackson) Destiny (1978) (first album with full creative control) 1. Blame it on the boogie (M. Jackson/D. Jackson/Krohn) - became a hit 2. Push me away (T. Jackson/J. Jackson/M. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson) 3. Things I do for you (T. Jackson/J. Jackson/M. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson) - became a hit 4. Shake your body (R. Jackson/M. Jackson) - became a hit 5. Destiny (T. Jackson/J. Jackson/M. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson) 6. Bless his soul (T. Jackson/J. Jackson/M. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson) 7. All night dancing (R. Jackson/M. Jackson) 8. That’s what you get (for being polite) (R. Jackson/M. Jackson) Triumph (1980) 1. Can you feel it (M. Jackson/J. Jackson) - became a hit 2. Lovely One (M. Jackson/R. Jackson) - became a hit 3. Your ways (J. Jackson) 4. Everybody (M. Jackson/T. Jackson/M. McKinney) 5. This place hotel (M. Jackson) - became a hit 6. Time waits for no one (J. Jackson/R. Jackson) 7. Walk right now (M. Jackson/J. Jackson/R. Jackson) 8. Give it up (M. Jackson/R. Jackson) 9. Wondering Who (J. Jackson/R. Jackson) Victory (1984) 4. Be not always (M. Jackson) 5. State of shock (Music: M. Jackson; Lyrics: M. Jackson/R. Hansen) - became a hit 7. The Hurt (M. Jackson/R. Jackson/D. Paich/S. Porcaro) [Edited 8/31/07 18:33pm] [Edited 8/31/07 18:37pm] How do you define "became a hit"? I haven't heard of many of the songs you describe as hits. What are the songs that you have not heard before? I think he or she is defining a hit as a TOP FORTY hit (note: a couple of these songs were released in Europe ONLY). | |
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thedoorkeeper said: PatrickS77 said: Oh f... you! I know it's a bit off-topic, but I’m so sick and tired of people diminishing his impact as a songwriter! Of the roughly 130 songs he has released in his adult career (I'm counting CBS/Sony stuff only) he is either a writer or co-writer on about 95 songs and of those songs he has written about 40 completely on his own! And those are only the songs which have been released (also not included are songs he has written for others)! Someone posted this list a while ago and I’ve added the Jacksons songs written by him: Off The Wall (1979) 1. Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough (Jackson) - became a hit 2. Rock With You (Temperton) - became a hit (US 3. Working Day and Night (Jackson) 4. Get on the Floor (Jackson/Johnson) 5. Off the Wall (Temperton) - became a hit 6. Girlfriend (McCartney) 7. She's Out of My Life (Bahler) - became a hit 8. I Can't Help It (Greene/Wonder) 9. It's the Falling in Love (Foster/Sager) 10. Burn This Disco Out (Temperton) Thriller (1982) 1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' (Jackson) - became a hit 2. Baby Be Mine (Temperton) 3. The Girl Is Mine (Jackson) - became a hit 4. Thriller (Temperton) - became a hit 5. Beat It (Jackson) - became a hit 6. Billie Jean (Jackson) - became a hit 7. Human Nature (Bettis/Porcaro) - became a hit 8. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing) (Ingram/Jones) 9. The Lady in My Life (Temperton) Bad (1987) 1. Bad (Jackson) - became a hit 2. The Way You Make Me Feel (Jackson) - became a hit 3. Speed Demon (Jackson) - became a hit 4. Liberian Girl (Jackson) - became a hit 5. Just Good Friends (Britten/Lyle) 6. Another Part of Me (Jackson) - became a hit 7. Man in the Mirror (Ballard/Garrett) - became a hit 8. I Just Can't Stop Loving You (Jackson) - became a hit 9. Dirty Diana (Jackson) - became a hit 10. Smooth Criminal (Jackson) - became a hit 11. Leave Me Alone (Jackson) - became a hit 12. Streetwalker (Jackson) 13. Fly Away (Jackson) Dangerous (1991) 1. Jam (Song and Lyrics: Jackson; Music: Moore/Swedien/Jackson /Riley) - became a hit 2. Why You Wanna Trip on Me (Belle/Riley) - became a hit 3. In the Closet (Jackson/Riley) - became a hit 4. She Drives Me Wild (Jackson/Riley/Davidson) 5. Remember the Time (Riley/Jackson/ Belle) - became a hit 6. Can't Let Her Get Away (Jackson/Riley) 7. Heal the World (Jackson) - became a hit 8. Black or White (Jackson; Rap: Bottrell) - became a hit 9. Who Is It (Jackson) - became a hit 10. Give in to Me (Jackson/Bottrell) - became a hit 11. Will You Be There (Jackson) - became a hit 12. Keep the Faith (Ballard/Garrett/Jackson) 13. Gone Too Soon (Grossman/Kohan) 14. Dangerous (Jackson/Bottrell/ Riley) HIStory (1995) 1. Scream (Harris/Lewis/Jackson/Jackson) - became a hit 2. They Don't Care About Us (Jackson) - became a hit 3. Stranger in Moscow (Jackson) - became a hit 4. This Time Around (Song and Lyrics: Jackson; Music: Austin/Rene/Swedien) 5. Earth Song (Jackson) - became a hit 6. D.S. (Jackson) 7. Money (Jackson) 8. Come Together (Lennon/McCartney) 9. You Are Not Alone (Kelly) - became a hit 10. Childhood (Jackson) - became a hit 11. Tabloid Junkie (Jackson/ Harris/Lewis) 12. 2 Bad (Song and Lyrics: Jackson; Music: Austin/Rene/Swedien) 13. History (Jackson/Harris/ Lewis) 14. Little Susie (Jackson) 15. Smile (Chaplin/Parsons) Blood On The Dance Floor (1997) 1. Blood on the Dance Floor (Jackson/Riley) - became a hit 2. Morphine (Jackson) 3. Superfly Sister (Written: Jackson; Composed: Jackson/Loren) 4. Ghosts (Jackson/Riley) - became a hit 5 Is It Scary (Jackson/Harris/ Lewis) Invincible (2001) 1. Unbreakable (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/ Daniels/Payne/Smith) 2. Heartbreaker (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/ Daniels /Mischke/Gregg) 3. Invincible (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels/Gregg/) 4. Break of Dawn (Dr. Freeze/Jackson) 5. Heaven Can Wait (Jackson/Riley/ Heard/Smith/Beal/Laues/Quiller) 6. You Rock My World (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels/Payne) - became a hit 7. Butterflies (Ambrosius/Harris) 8. Speechless (Jackson) 9. 2000 Watts (Jackson/Riley/Gibson/Henson) 10. You Are My Life (Jackson/Babyface/Sager/McClain) 11. Privacy (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels/Belle) 12. Don't Walk Away (Jackson/Riley/Sities/Vertelney) 13. Cry (Kelly) - became a hit 14. The Lost Children (Jackson) 15. Whatever Happens (Jackson/Riley/Cang/Quay/Williams) 16. Threatened (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels) The Ultimate Collection (2004) 17. Sunset Driver (Jackson) 9. Scared of the moon (Jackson/Kohan) 10. We are the world (Jackson/Richie) 11. We are here to change the world (Jackson/Barnes) 7. Cheater (Jackson/Phillinganes) 9. Monkey Business (Jackson/Bottrell) 14. Someone put your hand out (Jackson/Riley) 4. On the line (Jackson) 7. In the back (Jackson) 11. Beautiful Girl (Jackson) 12. The way you love me (Jackson) 13. We’ve had enough (Jackson/Jerkins/Daniels/Sager) The Jacksons (only songs written/sung by Michael) The Jacksons (1976) (contractually only allowed to write 2 songs) 1. Enjoy yourself (Gamble/Huff) 2. Think happy (Gamble/Huff) 3. Good times (Gamble/Huff) 4. Keep on dancing (Wansel) 5. Blues Away (M. Jackson) 6. Show you the way to go (Gamble/Huff) 8. Strength of one man (McFadden/Whitehead/Carstaphen) 9. Dreamer (Gamble/Huff) 10. Style of Live (T. Jackson/M. Jackson) Going Places (1977) (contractually only allowed to write 2 songs) 1. Music’s taking over (Whitehead/McFadden/Carstarphen) 2. Going Places (Gamble/Huff) 3. Different Kind Of Lady (M. Jackson/T. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson/J. Jackson) 4. Even though you’re gone (Gamble/Huff) 5. Jump for Joy (Wansel/Biggs) 6. Heaven knows I love you, girl (Gamble/Huff) 7. Man of war (Gamble/Huff) 8. Do What You Wanna (M. Jackson/T. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson/J. Jackson) Destiny (1978) (first album with full creative control) 1. Blame it on the boogie (M. Jackson/D. Jackson/Krohn) - became a hit 2. Push me away (T. Jackson/J. Jackson/M. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson) 3. Things I do for you (T. Jackson/J. Jackson/M. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson) - became a hit 4. Shake your body (R. Jackson/M. Jackson) - became a hit 5. Destiny (T. Jackson/J. Jackson/M. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson) 6. Bless his soul (T. Jackson/J. Jackson/M. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson) 7. All night dancing (R. Jackson/M. Jackson) 8. That’s what you get (for being polite) (R. Jackson/M. Jackson) Triumph (1980) 1. Can you feel it (M. Jackson/J. Jackson) - became a hit 2. Lovely One (M. Jackson/R. Jackson) - became a hit 3. Your ways (J. Jackson) 4. Everybody (M. Jackson/T. Jackson/M. McKinney) 5. This place hotel (M. Jackson) - became a hit 6. Time waits for no one (J. Jackson/R. Jackson) 7. Walk right now (M. Jackson/J. Jackson/R. Jackson) 8. Give it up (M. Jackson/R. Jackson) 9. Wondering Who (J. Jackson/R. Jackson) Victory (1984) 4. Be not always (M. Jackson) 5. State of shock (Music: M. Jackson; Lyrics: M. Jackson/R. Hansen) - became a hit 7. The Hurt (M. Jackson/R. Jackson/D. Paich/S. Porcaro) [Edited 8/31/07 18:33pm] [Edited 8/31/07 18:37pm] How do you define "became a hit"? I haven't heard of many of the songs you describe as hits. You have heard about charts, right?? The "became a hit" wasn't added by me though! It was already there... but in most cases the songs went Top 10 in the US, the UK or other countries! But what do you want to say anyway, that you have little knowledge of music, don't know the songs and they haven't been hits? I wanted to add the chartpositions, but just by adding chartpositions for "You rock my world" I noticed that that is way too much work: 6. You Rock My World (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels/Payne) - became a hit (US #10/UK #2/Aus #4/Brazil #1/Canada #2/Denmark #2/Finland #1/France #1/Germany #6/Switzerland #5/Austria #9/Italy #3/Norway #2/Netherlands #2/Spain #1/Europe #1/Sri Lanka #1/Taiwan #1) For the rest, if you don't believe me, may I refer you to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...iscography There is a pretty good listing of all solo songs! [Edited 9/1/07 13:49pm] | |
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PatrickS77 said: thedoorkeeper said: How do you define "became a hit"? I haven't heard of many of the songs you describe as hits. You have heard about charts, right?? The "became a hit" wasn't added by me though! It was already there... but in most cases the songs went Top 10 in the US, the UK or other countries! But what do you want to say anyway, that you have little knowledge of music, don't know the songs and they haven't been hits? Man you MJ fanatics have some fucking attitude - ask a question & instantly you go into belittling & sarcasm. Why bother responding to your dumb ass response when its just MJ fans farts. You have heard of farts? | |
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thedoorkeeper said: PatrickS77 said: Oh f... you! I know it's a bit off-topic, but I’m so sick and tired of people diminishing his impact as a songwriter! Of the roughly 130 songs he has released in his adult career (I'm counting CBS/Sony stuff only) he is either a writer or co-writer on about 95 songs and of those songs he has written about 40 completely on his own! And those are only the songs which have been released (also not included are songs he has written for others)! Someone posted this list a while ago and I’ve added the Jacksons songs written by him: Off The Wall (1979) 1. Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough (Jackson) - became a hit 2. Rock With You (Temperton) - became a hit 3. Working Day and Night (Jackson) 4. Get on the Floor (Jackson/Johnson) 5. Off the Wall (Temperton) - became a hit 6. Girlfriend (McCartney) 7. She's Out of My Life (Bahler) - became a hit 8. I Can't Help It (Greene/Wonder) 9. It's the Falling in Love (Foster/Sager) 10. Burn This Disco Out (Temperton) Thriller (1982) 1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' (Jackson) - became a hit 2. Baby Be Mine (Temperton) 3. The Girl Is Mine (Jackson) - became a hit 4. Thriller (Temperton) - became a hit 5. Beat It (Jackson) - became a hit 6. Billie Jean (Jackson) - became a hit 7. Human Nature (Bettis/Porcaro) - became a hit 8. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing) (Ingram/Jones) 9. The Lady in My Life (Temperton) Bad (1987) 1. Bad (Jackson) - became a hit 2. The Way You Make Me Feel (Jackson) - became a hit 3. Speed Demon (Jackson) - became a hit 4. Liberian Girl (Jackson) - became a hit 5. Just Good Friends (Britten/Lyle) 6. Another Part of Me (Jackson) - became a hit 7. Man in the Mirror (Ballard/Garrett) - became a hit 8. I Just Can't Stop Loving You (Jackson) - became a hit 9. Dirty Diana (Jackson) - became a hit 10. Smooth Criminal (Jackson) - became a hit 11. Leave Me Alone (Jackson) - became a hit 12. Streetwalker (Jackson) 13. Fly Away (Jackson) Dangerous (1991) 1. Jam (Song and Lyrics: Jackson; Music: Moore/Swedien/Jackson /Riley) - became a hit 2. Why You Wanna Trip on Me (Belle/Riley) - became a hit 3. In the Closet (Jackson/Riley) - became a hit 4. She Drives Me Wild (Jackson/Riley/Davidson) 5. Remember the Time (Riley/Jackson/ Belle) - became a hit 6. Can't Let Her Get Away (Jackson/Riley) 7. Heal the World (Jackson) - became a hit 8. Black or White (Jackson; Rap: Bottrell) - became a hit 9. Who Is It (Jackson) - became a hit 10. Give in to Me (Jackson/Bottrell) - became a hit 11. Will You Be There (Jackson) - became a hit 12. Keep the Faith (Ballard/Garrett/Jackson) 13. Gone Too Soon (Grossman/Kohan) 14. Dangerous (Jackson/Bottrell/ Riley) HIStory (1995) 1. Scream (Harris/Lewis/Jackson/Jackson) - became a hit 2. They Don't Care About Us (Jackson) - became a hit 3. Stranger in Moscow (Jackson) - became a hit 4. This Time Around (Song and Lyrics: Jackson; Music: Austin/Rene/Swedien) 5. Earth Song (Jackson) - became a hit 6. D.S. (Jackson) 7. Money (Jackson) 8. Come Together (Lennon/McCartney) 9. You Are Not Alone (Kelly) - became a hit 10. Childhood (Jackson) - became a hit 11. Tabloid Junkie (Jackson/ Harris/Lewis) 12. 2 Bad (Song and Lyrics: Jackson; Music: Austin/Rene/Swedien) 13. History (Jackson/Harris/ Lewis) 14. Little Susie (Jackson) 15. Smile (Chaplin/Parsons) Blood On The Dance Floor (1997) 1. Blood on the Dance Floor (Jackson/Riley) - became a hit 2. Morphine (Jackson) 3. Superfly Sister (Written: Jackson; Composed: Jackson/Loren) 4. Ghosts (Jackson/Riley) - became a hit 5 Is It Scary (Jackson/Harris/ Lewis) Invincible (2001) 1. Unbreakable (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/ Daniels/Payne/Smith) 2. Heartbreaker (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/ Daniels /Mischke/Gregg) 3. Invincible (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels/Gregg/) 4. Break of Dawn (Dr. Freeze/Jackson) 5. Heaven Can Wait (Jackson/Riley/ Heard/Smith/Beal/Laues/Quiller) 6. You Rock My World (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels/Payne) - became a hit 7. Butterflies (Ambrosius/Harris) 8. Speechless (Jackson) 9. 2000 Watts (Jackson/Riley/Gibson/Henson) 10. You Are My Life (Jackson/Babyface/Sager/McClain) 11. Privacy (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels/Belle) 12. Don't Walk Away (Jackson/Riley/Sities/Vertelney) 13. Cry (Kelly) - became a hit 14. The Lost Children (Jackson) 15. Whatever Happens (Jackson/Riley/Cang/Quay/Williams) 16. Threatened (Jackson/Jerkins/Jerkins/Daniels) The Ultimate Collection (2004) 17. Sunset Driver (Jackson) 9. Scared of the moon (Jackson/Kohan) 10. We are the world (Jackson/Richie) 11. We are here to change the world (Jackson/Barnes) 7. Cheater (Jackson/Phillinganes) 9. Monkey Business (Jackson/Bottrell) 14. Someone put your hand out (Jackson/Riley) 4. On the line (Jackson) 7. In the back (Jackson) 11. Beautiful Girl (Jackson) 12. The way you love me (Jackson) 13. We’ve had enough (Jackson/Jerkins/Daniels/Sager) The Jacksons (only songs written/sung by Michael) The Jacksons (1976) (contractually only allowed to write 2 songs) 1. Enjoy yourself (Gamble/Huff) 2. Think happy (Gamble/Huff) 3. Good times (Gamble/Huff) 4. Keep on dancing (Wansel) 5. Blues Away (M. Jackson) 6. Show you the way to go (Gamble/Huff) 8. Strength of one man (McFadden/Whitehead/Carstaphen) 9. Dreamer (Gamble/Huff) 10. Style of Live (T. Jackson/M. Jackson) Going Places (1977) (contractually only allowed to write 2 songs) 1. Music’s taking over (Whitehead/McFadden/Carstarphen) 2. Going Places (Gamble/Huff) 3. Different Kind Of Lady (M. Jackson/T. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson/J. Jackson) 4. Even though you’re gone (Gamble/Huff) 5. Jump for Joy (Wansel/Biggs) 6. Heaven knows I love you, girl (Gamble/Huff) 7. Man of war (Gamble/Huff) 8. Do What You Wanna (M. Jackson/T. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson/J. Jackson) Destiny (1978) (first album with full creative control) 1. Blame it on the boogie (M. Jackson/D. Jackson/Krohn) - became a hit 2. Push me away (T. Jackson/J. Jackson/M. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson) 3. Things I do for you (T. Jackson/J. Jackson/M. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson) - became a hit 4. Shake your body (R. Jackson/M. Jackson) - became a hit 5. Destiny (T. Jackson/J. Jackson/M. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson) 6. Bless his soul (T. Jackson/J. Jackson/M. Jackson/M. Jackson/R. Jackson) 7. All night dancing (R. Jackson/M. Jackson) 8. That’s what you get (for being polite) (R. Jackson/M. Jackson) Triumph (1980) 1. Can you feel it (M. Jackson/J. Jackson) - became a hit 2. Lovely One (M. Jackson/R. Jackson) - became a hit 3. Your ways (J. Jackson) 4. Everybody (M. Jackson/T. Jackson/M. McKinney) 5. This place hotel (M. Jackson) - became a hit 6. Time waits for no one (J. Jackson/R. Jackson) 7. Walk right now (M. Jackson/J. Jackson/R. Jackson) 8. Give it up (M. Jackson/R. Jackson) 9. Wondering Who (J. Jackson/R. Jackson) Victory (1984) 4. Be not always (M. Jackson) 5. State of shock (Music: M. Jackson; Lyrics: M. Jackson/R. Hansen) - became a hit 7. The Hurt (M. Jackson/R. Jackson/D. Paich/S. Porcaro) [Edited 8/31/07 18:33pm] [Edited 8/31/07 18:37pm] How do you define "became a hit"? I haven't heard of many of the songs you describe as hits. meaning it did well on the charts, what song haven't you heard "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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mimi07 said: thedoorkeeper said: How do you define "became a hit"? I haven't heard of many of the songs you describe as hits. meaning it did well on the charts, what song haven't you heard Its not that I don't know the songs - its I've never heard of many of these songs being hits or even singles. For example I never knew of Childhood or Ghosts being classified as hits. | |
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thedoorkeeper said: mimi07 said: meaning it did well on the charts, what song haven't you heard Its not that I don't know the songs - its I've never heard of many of these songs being hits or even singles. For example I never knew of Childhood or Ghosts being classified as hits. Dude, calm down. Most of the time PatrickS77 ends his sentences with exclamation points -- not just in response to you. 
The main point of the list was not to denote which tracks had become hits when released as singles, but to show which songs Michael Jackson had written or co-written. I suggest you click on the wikipedia link PatrickS77 has provided and see the chart positions of each single.
On a final note: I apologize again avasdad for hijacking your thread. I am aware that the moderator gave this thread a warning for veering off topic.... [Edited 9/2/07 5:47am] | |
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Rodya24 said: thedoorkeeper said: Its not that I don't know the songs - its I've never heard of many of these songs being hits or even singles. For example I never knew of Childhood or Ghosts being classified as hits. Dude, calm down. Most of the time PatrickS77 ends his sentences with exclamation points -- not just in response to you.
The main point of the list was not to denote which tracks had become hits when released as singles, but to show which songs Michael Jackson had written or co-written. I suggest you click on the wikipedia link PatrickS77 has provided and see the chart positions of each single.
On a final note: I apologize again avasdad for hijacking your thread. I am aware that the moderator gave this thread a warning for veering off topic.... [Edited 9/2/07 5:47am] The moderators were nowhere to be seen when MJ fans were calling people "fucking retards", "morons" and "wankers", yet a topic goes ever so slightly off topic and suddenly they're clanking their iron chain. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: Rodya24 said: Dude, calm down. Most of the time PatrickS77 ends his sentences with exclamation points -- not just in response to you.
The main point of the list was not to denote which tracks had become hits when released as singles, but to show which songs Michael Jackson had written or co-written. I suggest you click on the wikipedia link PatrickS77 has provided and see the chart positions of each single.
On a final note: I apologize again avasdad for hijacking your thread. I am aware that the moderator gave this thread a warning for veering off topic.... [Edited 9/2/07 5:47am] The moderators were nowhere to be seen when MJ fans were calling people "fucking retards", "morons" and "wankers", yet a topic goes ever so slightly off topic and suddenly they're clanking their iron chain. Actually I was the one who reported that particular thread, citing the fact that people were calling each other names ("retard," "zealot," "moron") and that the thread was getting nowhere. | |
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thedoorkeeper said: mimi07 said: meaning it did well on the charts, what song haven't you heard Its not that I don't know the songs - its I've never heard of many of these songs being hits or even singles. For example I never knew of Childhood or Ghosts being classified as hits. Childhood was the double A side of Scream and Ghosts was the double A side of HIStory! Looking over the list, the only one which shouldn't be classified as "became a hit" is Why you wanna trip on me? as it never was a single! And maybe Speed demon which only had a limited release in certain territories! | |
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Rodya24 said: midnightmover said: The moderators were nowhere to be seen when MJ fans were calling people "fucking retards", "morons" and "wankers", yet a topic goes ever so slightly off topic and suddenly they're clanking their iron chain. Actually I was the one who reported that particular thread, citing the fact that people were calling each other names ("retard," "zealot," "moron") and that the thread was getting nowhere. If that's the "image complex" thread, then I thought it was just starting to get somwhere when they locked it. Even though some were trying to derail it by posting lengthy unnecesary posts, I felt like some of the core issues were beginning to come into view. All they needed to do was snip the offending comments, and warn everyone to try and keep things civil. [Edited 9/2/07 6:57am] [Edited 9/2/07 7:47am] “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: Rodya24 said: Actually I was the one who reported that particular thread, citing the fact that people were calling each other names ("retard," "zealot," "moron") and that the thread was getting nowhere. If that's the "image complex" thread, then I thought it was just starting to get somwhere when they locked it, even though some were trying to derail it by posting lengthy unnecesary posts, I felt like some of the core issues were beginning to come into view. Yes. But the fact that people were calling each other names needed to be reported to the moderators. You are right that calling each other "retard" and "zealot" does not help the discussion at all. | |
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PatrickS77 said: thedoorkeeper said: Its not that I don't know the songs - its I've never heard of many of these songs being hits or even singles. For example I never knew of Childhood or Ghosts being classified as hits. Childhood was the double A side of Scream and Ghosts was the double A side of HIStory! Looking over the list, the only one which shouldn't be classified as "became a hit" is Why you wanna trip on me? as it never was a single! And maybe Speed demon which only had a limited release in certain territories! I think the fact that you end your sentences with an exclamation point contributes to the perception that you are full of anger. | |
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Like you said! I use exclamation points! It's personal choice... it has nothing to do with anger! | |
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PatrickS77 said: Like you said! I use exclamation points! It's personal choice... it has nothing to do with anger!
Okay! | |
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PatrickS77 said: Like you said! I use exclamation points! It's personal choice... it has nothing to do with anger!
In everyday life, do you ever find people stepping back a little bit when you talk to them? “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Huh? Don't quite understand that question! I don't use exclamation points when I talk!  And that's off-topic anyway! | |
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