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Angie Stone (Discussing relationship with D'angelo)

Essence.com: Well, it’s hard to believe that you ever chose the wrong men because you’re known for attracting the young, beautiful brothers. We’re trying to find out Miss Angie's secret.

A.S.: (Laughs) I know that seems to be the word. I think because D’Angelo was my first relationship, people think that I only date young men. Because I look younger, these guys don’t know my age when they get involved with me and I don’t really know theirs, but I act on spirit. The younger guys that I’ve dated have been mature. My man now is older than most of the guys I’ve dated, but still younger than me.
Essence.com: Well, what advice can you offer women who are trying to change their Mr. Wrongs into Mr. Rights?

A.S.: When I say getting it wrong I mean that I’m the kind of person who gives everyone a chance to hang himself. I dated someone who was younger than me and the rest of the world came down on our relationship saying that he had an ulterior motive. They made me feel like I wasn’t beautiful like as if this person couldn’t love me.
Essence.com: Would this younger guy happen to be D’Angelo? Your relationship with him received a lot of public scrutiny.

A.S.: No, I wasn't referring to D'Angelo. But you know what, the criticism that D’Angelo and I received about our relationship only began once he became successful. What people didn’t realize was that before he became successful there was Angie Stone from the group Vertical Hold—a strong beautiful sister who dated somebody who had not even crossed the threshold of the industry yet. When I was dating him he wore glasses, had short hair and his pants were hanging down to his butt. He was just a 19-year-old kid with big shorts and nobody cared and no one saw his beauty but me. And I told him, “You are beautiful. I promise you when your record drops your lips are gonna become famous, your eyes—everything will become famous. But he couldn’t see it because his self-esteem wasn’t where it is today. He didn’t even have an image and his hair was really short so I braided his hair with thread for his first album cover. It wasn’t until Brown Sugar came out that people actually took a good look at him and said, “You know what? He’s fine.” Then all of a sudden, he’s so fine he shouldn’t be with me.


Essence.com: People have always credited the success of Brown Sugar to you. Is that true?

A.S.: No and to set the record the straight, D’Angelo is a genius and he doesn’t need Angie or anybody to make him who he is. What people need to know is that we were in love with each other so my presence, my spirit, my gift, all of that flowed into our relationship. We dated for four years and when you’re with someone you become them, we started to become each other and pick up each other's musical habits. So where he was in his life as an individual had a lot to do with how he expressed those songs. The only thing I can take credit for is “Cruisin,’” which he couldn’t get done without me. I also wrote “Jones in My Bones.” D’Angelo’s brothers are gifted and helped him with a lot of the album, so he didn’t need me. The rest of the world has placed this stigma between D’Angelo and me, but the truth hasn’t been told until now. If anything, the beautiful part of Angie—the best friend, the confidant, the songwriter, the supportive lover—inspired his music.
Essence.com: So will you and D’Angelo work together again?

A.S.: Deep in my heart and soul, I believe D’Angelo would love to work with me again, but being a prideful man that has been so misunderstood and second-guessed that might not happen. He once told me, “I don’t want people to think I can’t do an album without you.” And I have to respect that because for so long people grouped us together in that sense and it had so much more to do with our spiritual connection. We work extremely well together, but I have a respect for him as a musician, as a Black man because I understand the pressure of the will to do greatness with the odds against you and your spirit has been broken.

Essence.com: Are you and D’Angelo still friends?

A.S.: D’angelo and I are parents first. For the sake of my son, I would never disrespect his father. I am an understanding sister and it’s a love-hate relationship and I hope people don’t misunderstand my statement. When you have put your business or life out front for all to see and you’re really just two southern people who love what you do and love the Lord and try to move forward in your life and you have all these things that come at you, it’s very easy to have separation come and then silence. There are times that we are silent and there are times that we laugh. He’ll always have a special place in my heart.
Essence.com: So was it difficult letting go of the intimate part of your relationship?

A.S.: If I felt like I needed to lean on him, I could but I chose not to because in order to move on with your life you have to let that part go and it’s hard to do when you have a tie that binds you—our son—so we have that kind of communication. I can honestly say if we run into each other there’s still that gray area that questions, “How did we get here?”

Essence.com: Do you think that some of the public’s comments about you and D’Angelo not being suited for each other affected your relationship?

A.S.: No. D’Angelo and I didn’t make it and he ended up with another woman and they have a beautiful daughter and everything is cool because if that’s what you do, then that’s what you do. But it doesn’t discredit me, because my inner beauty is going to surpass any chick in the game. Anybody who knows me know that I don’t have a qualm about how I look because I’m so proud of who I am on the inside. When you have a heart like mine, I’ll go up against the baddest one and it won’t matter.

Essence.com: Did you ever feel like you had to work harder on your relationship once he became a superstar?

A.S.: D’Angelo is very possessive of the women he loves and had a major jealous streak. Even now, it’s still major and we haven’t been together for ten years. When he became a superstar I never gave him cause to look twice because he had me so in check I wouldn’t even turn my head if we was driving on a freeway because he didn’t play that.

Essence.com: Does he get to see your 10-year-old son Michael often?

A.S.: He doesn’t get to see him a lot because D’Angelo has been trying to get his career back together and focus on his life and I’ve been doing what I do handling my two babies.

Essence.com: As his friend, did you run to his side after he had his run-in with the law?

A.S.: I have a son with him, so when he got into a car accident that affects my child because my son adores his father. So if he’s in trouble I’m going to do what I need to do as a woman for my son because I would be less than a mother if I didn't. If it is moral support he needs or whatever is necessary, I’m going to always do that. If the shoe was on the other foot I would expect him to do the same thing. I didn’t drop everything, but I took time out so that my son wouldn’t hear all these rumors and I had firsthand knowledge of what was going on with my child’s father so that I could be what I needed to be as a mother for my son.

Essence.com: On Celebrity Fit Club you struggled with a heart condition and were told by the judges that you were health enough to work out. Do you think your resistance was simply a mental shutdown?

A.S.: First of all, the doctor didn’t say it was okay. What people need to understand is that VH1 is not going to put the company in a position to be sued. When I realized that it was set up to target the bigger, Black girl on the show, that’s when I wanted to leave the show. Originally, the medication they had me on was wrong and through no fault of theirs I failed to do what I was supposed to do with the medication. However, we learned that my body was retaining a lot of fluid, which could lead to congestive heart failure, so the level of intensity they were putting me through was putting my health at risk.

Essence.com: Yes, I remember watching you struggle during the biking challenge.

A.S.: What they failed to show was that the bike had been taped on third gear. No one can pedal wheels that feel like rubber bands are pulling against your movement, which is like pedaling on a constant incline.

Essence.com: Were there any benefits to your participation on the show?

A.S.: Now, I’m not saying it’s all bad. Right now, I’m down to a size 14 and looking better than I have in years. Before I went on the show I was between sizes 18 and 20.

Essence.com: As a Black woman were you affected by Don Imus’s comments?

A.S.: What Imus said has no significance to me nor does the N-word because I am so beautiful and bold in the skin that I’m in, that I won’t allow another person to take that joy from me. I think I’m beautiful. There was a time when I didn’t think I was beautiful when I gained a lot of weight because of a medical condition I had. But you can ask any of my high school friends, I had the baddest body in the school. It was other people who had the problem. So I was always good with me.

the whole interview can be found here

http://www.essence.com/es...-1,00.html
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Reply #1 posted 08/09/07 1:15pm

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It's kinda of sad that she knows that people thought that he was too good or attractive to be with her sad
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Reply #2 posted 08/09/07 1:23pm

Lothan

banks said:

It's kinda of sad that she knows that people thought that he was too good or attractive to be with her sad
I've been through the exact same thing but true beauty always shines through.
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Reply #3 posted 08/09/07 1:32pm

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I think the other "younger guy" she was speaking of was Calvin Richardson.

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Reply #4 posted 08/09/07 1:34pm

MsLegs

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I think the other "younger guy" she was speaking of was Calvin Richardson.


nod Agreed.
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Reply #5 posted 08/09/07 3:01pm

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MuthaFunka said:

I think the other "younger guy" she was speaking of was Calvin Richardson.




I just lost all of my thoughts....But I did like that song he had with Angie on Mahogany Soul.
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Reply #6 posted 08/09/07 3:52pm

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ABeautifulOne said:

MuthaFunka said:

I think the other "younger guy" she was speaking of was Calvin Richardson.




I just lost all of my thoughts....But I did like that song he had with Angie on Mahogany Soul.


I thought I'd toss some of yall some eye candy lol
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Reply #7 posted 08/09/07 4:02pm

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One of the biggest problem with the music industry today is that they hating on big people too often. And for what? Because of some damn skinning image the industry wants them to be. IMO, this has gotten worse than anything Luther Vandross had to go through.
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Reply #8 posted 08/09/07 5:31pm

PurpleCharm

banks said:

It's kinda of sad that she knows that people thought that he was too good or attractive to be with her sad


Sad, isn't it?

What they said about Angie is the same thing that is being said about Usher's wife.
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Reply #9 posted 08/09/07 5:41pm

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Angie has a beautiful heart. I wish all brothas and sistas could be that comfortable, forgiving and together.
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Reply #10 posted 08/09/07 6:00pm

MsLegs

BlaqueKnight said:

Angie has a beautiful heart. I wish all brothas and sistas could be that comfortable, forgiving and together.

nod Indeed. She's a real down to earth soul sista to her heart and emits a positive aura about her. Her lyrics speaks volumes.
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Reply #11 posted 08/09/07 6:18pm

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MsLegs said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Angie has a beautiful heart. I wish all brothas and sistas could be that comfortable, forgiving and together.

nod Indeed. She's a real down to earth soul sista to her heart and emits a positive aura about her. Her lyrics speaks volumes.
I love Angie's music. It's so uplifting. Even though she doesn't sell as many cd's as Rihanna, Ciara or Fergie, She puts them all to shame.
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Reply #12 posted 08/09/07 6:29pm

MsLegs

MuthaFunka said:

ABeautifulOne said:




I just lost all of my thoughts....But I did like that song he had with Angie on Mahogany Soul.


I thought I'd toss some of yall some eye candy lol

You know what I what I like. wink razz
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Reply #13 posted 08/09/07 6:30pm

FarrahMoan

PurpleCharm said:

banks said:

It's kinda of sad that she knows that people thought that he was too good or attractive to be with her sad


Sad, isn't it?

What they said about Angie is the same thing that is being said about Usher's wife.

Guilty as charged. I, actually think that "Angie Stone" has sung some great songs. It's an oversight that she isn't successful. I truly apologize to anybody and everybody here that was disgusted and iinsulted by my misconduct. I guess, it's new to me. But, when you truly love, I guess you truly love (Though, I don't believe in "LOVE" unless it's the obligatory kind that you have with different relatives of your family). No matter the circumstances. sad
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Reply #14 posted 08/09/07 6:33pm

Harlepolis

She's def starting to look fab-u-lous to me...

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Reply #15 posted 08/09/07 6:33pm

MsLegs

She puts them all to shame.

nod Angie is on her game musically no doubt.
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Reply #16 posted 08/09/07 6:37pm

MsLegs

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MsLegs


Go Head Angie. cool
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Reply #18 posted 08/09/07 6:47pm

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MuthaFunka said:

ABeautifulOne said:




I just lost all of my thoughts....But I did like that song he had with Angie on Mahogany Soul.


I thought I'd toss some of yall some eye candy lol



I got to give Angie her props though because her fiance is fine as hell. It looks like he could pass for Tank a little...
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Reply #19 posted 08/09/07 6:59pm

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MsLegs said:

MuthaFunka said:



I thought I'd toss some of yall some eye candy lol

You know what I what I like. wink razz


biggrin wink
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Reply #20 posted 08/09/07 7:01pm

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ABeautifulOne said:

MuthaFunka said:



I thought I'd toss some of yall some eye candy lol



I got to give Angie her props though because her fiance is fine as hell. It looks like he could pass for Tank a little...


I don't think her and Calvin are still together, but I could be wrong though.
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Reply #21 posted 08/09/07 7:18pm

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MuthaFunka said:

ABeautifulOne said:




I got to give Angie her props though because her fiance is fine as hell. It looks like he could pass for Tank a little...


I don't think her and Calvin are still together, but I could be wrong though.



In the article on the Essence site it says she's engaged to a man named Ashanti. His picture is in the Essence gallery where he and Angie were at the BET Awards...
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Reply #22 posted 08/09/07 7:28pm

MsLegs

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MsLegs said:


You know what I what I like. wink razz


biggrin wink

Co- wink sign
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Reply #23 posted 08/09/07 11:59pm

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ABeautifulOne said:

MuthaFunka said:



I don't think her and Calvin are still together, but I could be wrong though.



In the article on the Essence site it says she's engaged to a man named Ashanti. His picture is in the Essence gallery where he and Angie were at the BET Awards...


Oh! Ok, my bad.
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Reply #24 posted 08/10/07 2:26am

Rhondab

PurpleCharm said:

banks said:

It's kinda of sad that she knows that people thought that he was too good or attractive to be with her sad


Sad, isn't it?

What they said about Angie is the same thing that is being said about Usher's wife.



Naw...they sayin' Ushers wife is a ghetto mess...lol Usher shoulda done a criminal background check on that chyle. lol


Angie has always been beautiful chocolaty sista.....but even within the black community, being chocolaty, full lips and having wide hips will get you dogged.

I aight mad at her though....get them young'ns
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Reply #25 posted 08/10/07 7:14am

PurpleCharm

Rhondab said:

PurpleCharm said:



Sad, isn't it?

What they said about Angie is the same thing that is being said about Usher's wife.



Naw...they sayin' Ushers wife is a ghetto mess...lol Usher shoulda done a criminal background check on that chyle. lol


Angie has always been beautiful chocolaty sista.....but even within the black community, being chocolaty, full lips and having wide hips will get you dogged.

I aight mad at her though....get them young'ns


FarrahMoan knows what I am talking about. wink
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Reply #26 posted 08/10/07 7:16am

Rhondab

PurpleCharm said:

Rhondab said:




Naw...they sayin' Ushers wife is a ghetto mess...lol Usher shoulda done a criminal background check on that chyle. lol


Angie has always been beautiful chocolaty sista.....but even within the black community, being chocolaty, full lips and having wide hips will get you dogged.

I aight mad at her though....get them young'ns


FarrahMoan knows what I am talking about. wink



What FarrahMoan thinks that chyle is ugly? lol She's just a hot ghetto mess.....
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Reply #27 posted 08/10/07 7:25am

FarrahMoan

Rhondab said:

PurpleCharm said:



FarrahMoan knows what I am talking about. wink



What FarrahMoan thinks that chyle is ugly? lol She's just a hot ghetto mess.....

Ooh, I'm torn! smile This is fun. Where is that popcorn emoticon? lol
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Reply #28 posted 08/10/07 7:50am

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she wrote jonz in my bones?

im in love...
I'll leave it alone babe...just be me
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Reply #29 posted 08/10/07 11:12am

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I have always thought that she was beautiful. I am just surprise she is that much older than D'angelo. He was still in his teens and she was well into her 30s when their affair began.
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