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Reply #30 posted 08/09/07 3:19pm

avasdad

LittleSmedley said:

They're obviously loved by millions of fans throughout the world. But they just depress the living crap out of me... His vocals, the band, the tunes. As I write this, the office radio is playing the one that goes...

"This Romeo is bleedin'/But you can't see his bluuurd"

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have you listen to the words of any gwen stefani or fergie songs lately???
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Reply #31 posted 08/09/07 3:27pm

lastdecember

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Its alright not to like a band or artist or whatever, just always make sure its for good reason. There are tons of artists that i dislike or cant get into but if they are talented i do admit it. Some people that HATE jovi dont think they are a good band or can play, which is insanity. If you dont dig them because of the time they came from, or maybe ballads, they have lots to offer on their albums but hey its every ones opinion. To me they are one of the best bands over the last two decades which is why they are still around.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #32 posted 08/10/07 3:50am

LittleSmedley

avasdad said:

LittleSmedley said:

They're obviously loved by millions of fans throughout the world. But they just depress the living crap out of me... His vocals, the band, the tunes. As I write this, the office radio is playing the one that goes...

"This Romeo is bleedin'/But you can't see his bluuurd"

wall

have you listen to the words of any gwen stefani or fergie songs lately???


yeah and they're shit as well
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Reply #33 posted 08/10/07 3:55am

jarvis76

You are absolutely 100% correct to hate Bon Jovi.

They are awfull. Blandness at it's best. Give it up JBJ
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Reply #34 posted 08/10/07 4:05am

LightOfArt

I think they made some great songs
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Reply #35 posted 08/10/07 5:45am

LittleSmedley

LightOfArt said:

I think they made some great songs


if you can name one that will change my mind, do it. I hear them everywhere and it drives me nuts, they are so shit.
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Reply #36 posted 08/10/07 6:51am

AlexdeParis

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LittleSmedley said:

LightOfArt said:

I think they made some great songs


if you can name one that will change my mind, do it. I hear them everywhere and it drives me nuts, they are so shit.

It's not about changing your mind. It's your opinion. Hate what you want.
"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
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Reply #37 posted 08/10/07 9:21am

FunkJam

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LittleSmedley said:

LightOfArt said:

I think they made some great songs


if you can name one that will change my mind, do it. I hear them everywhere and it drives me nuts, they are so shit.


How many songs have you actually heard by them? I will admit that the recent material has been VERY inconsistent but they have some GREAT songs, particulary some of the older album tracks. I think they best songs they have ever recorded are, To the Fire, Dry County and Let's Make it Baby.
"Man, the living creature, the creating individual, is always more important than any established style or system" - Bruce Lee
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Reply #38 posted 08/10/07 10:33am

3121

LittleSmedley said:

LightOfArt said:

I think they made some great songs


if you can name one that will change my mind, do it. I hear them everywhere and it drives me nuts, they are so shit.



I wake up in the morning and i raise my weary head.. i got an old coat for a pilow.. and the earth is last nights bed. I dont know where im going.. only god knows wear i been.. im a gun through your stable im what kane was to able .. mr catch me if u can.


I love that song for what it is. A pissed up track.
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Reply #39 posted 08/10/07 10:39am

Cinnie

3121 said:

I wake up in the morning and i raise my weary head.. i got an old coat for a pilow.. and the earth is last nights bed. I dont know where im going.. only god knows wear i been.. im a gun through your stable im what kane was to able .. mr catch me if u can.


headache exactly the kinda cliche-ridden lyrics i hate from them
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Reply #40 posted 08/10/07 10:40am

LittleSmedley

3121 said:

LittleSmedley said:



if you can name one that will change my mind, do it. I hear them everywhere and it drives me nuts, they are so shit.



I wake up in the morning and i raise my weary head.. i got an old coat for a pilow.. and the earth is last nights bed. I dont know where im going.. only god knows wear i been.. im a gun through your stable im what kane was to able .. mr catch me if u can.


I love that song for what it is. A pissed up track.


That's a Jon Bon Jovi solo release


still shit tho
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Reply #41 posted 08/10/07 10:43am

3121

LittleSmedley said:

3121 said:




I wake up in the morning and i raise my weary head.. i got an old coat for a pilow.. and the earth is last nights bed. I dont know where im going.. only god knows wear i been.. im a gun through your stable im what kane was to able .. mr catch me if u can.


I love that song for what it is. A pissed up track.


That's a Jon Bon Jovi solo release


still shit tho





Ahh! i didnt know that. You don't know how follish i feel!
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Reply #42 posted 08/10/07 10:46am

LittleSmedley

3121 said:

LittleSmedley said:



That's a Jon Bon Jovi solo release


still shit tho





Ahh! i didnt know that. You don't know how follish i feel!


you must feel like a prize dick 3121
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Reply #43 posted 08/10/07 10:48am

3121

Tommy used to work on the docks.. unions on strike.. he's down on his luck.. it's tough.. ohh it's tough
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Reply #44 posted 08/10/07 11:26am

vainandy

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Miles said:

vainandy said:

Yeah, you're wrong for hating them. I like only about one or two songs by Bon Jovi but you should use your energy to hate shit hop instead. lol


Agreed. As ever, Vain Andy, you are the voice of the silent generation of Org hip hop haters smile . While Bon Jovi are quite poor, hip hop is generally far worse.

And I would also conserve a little energy to hate contemporary so-called 'R n'B', the evil cousin of modern rap. biggrin

I'm findin' it tiring these days, with so much music around to hate. lol
[Edited 8/8/07 12:38pm]


Thank you. If you want to make the worst music of any genre sound good, play it alongside of shit hop and even polka would sound good. lol
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #45 posted 08/10/07 11:34am

Cinnie

3121 said:

Tommy used to work on the docks.. unions on strike.. he's down on his luck.. it's tough.. ohh it's tough


Stop! lol barf
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Reply #46 posted 08/10/07 11:39am

3121

Cinnie said:

3121 said:

Tommy used to work on the docks.. unions on strike.. he's down on his luck.. it's tough.. ohh it's tough


Stop! lol barf



When he pulls you close.. when he holds you near.. when he says the things you been needing to hear.. i wish that i was him.. those words were mine.. to say to you untilll the end of time and iiiii willlll lovvvve youuuu alwayssss!
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Reply #47 posted 08/10/07 11:57am

Cinnie

3121 said:

Cinnie said:



Stop! lol barf



When he pulls you close.. when he holds you near.. when he says the things you been needing to hear.. i wish that i was him.. those words were mine.. to say to you untilll the end of time and iiiii willlll lovvvve youuuu alwayssss!


falloff

F**k!
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Reply #48 posted 08/10/07 12:08pm

lastdecember

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The thing is, say what you will but there is an art to writing a pop song or ballad or whatever, and seriously no one seems to be able to do it anymore. Jovi is no Dylan, but he also didnt live through the time that Dylan lived through.

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Reply #49 posted 08/10/07 3:16pm

LightOfArt

LittleSmedley said:

LightOfArt said:

I think they made some great songs


if you can name one that will change my mind, do it. I hear them everywhere and it drives me nuts, they are so shit.


It's probably just not your kind of thing. I always had a thing for 80s pop metal. But since you asked try these:

1) Tokyo Road..my favourite
2) Runaway
3) Dry County
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Reply #50 posted 08/10/07 3:20pm

lonelygurl8305

Whhhhhyyyyy!!!

Naw...just kidding, I hate some other bands too...
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Reply #51 posted 08/10/07 3:29pm

Anxiety

i respect him because he's tried to rack up some credibility as a serious musician over the past decade, and he's done some adequate acting, and he seems like he's good to his fans and has a good sense of humor about himself...just don't make me listen to his music. ill
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Reply #52 posted 08/10/07 6:05pm

JesseDezz

lastdecember said:

The thing is, say what you will but there is an art to writing a pop song or ballad or whatever, and seriously no one seems to be able to do it anymore. Jovi is no Dylan, but he also didnt live through the time that Dylan lived through.


And Dylan also didn't have "song doctor" Desmond Child assisting in the song writing. That paint-by-numbers approach to songwriting has hindered Bon Jovi ever since they hooked up with him. It goes something like this:

Us against them lyrics/cliches - check.
Catchy, pump-your-fist chorus - check.
Brief, not too flashy Richie Sambora solo - check.

So, a lot of blame/credit goes to Desmond Child. Then again, any more Jon Bon Jovi attempts at writing lyrics like "I french kiss the morning" (Bed of Roses) might have me puking my guts out.

That being said, I like Bon Jovi. They come up with catchy, albeit predictable tunes that are extremely radio-friendly - nothing adventurous, nothing that deviates too much from the Bon Jovi formula. I dig Richie Sambora's playing, and I think he's a better vocalist than Jon, though his solo albums have featured the same earnest, cliche-ridden lyrics and overwrought singing...

I gotta give my fellow Jersey boys props for still hanging in there all these years. They hit upon a formula and stuck with it, for better or worse. And you know what? That country-tinged song, "Who Says You Can't Go Home" is CATCHY as hell....
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Reply #53 posted 08/10/07 6:28pm

Se7en

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One of my favorite albums of all time is New Jersey (1988), but I cannot claim to be a fan of their entire catalog . . .

Their lyrics are their main weakness. Too many rhymes, too many cliches, too many attempts to be witty. Even JBJ's solo stuff suffers in that area, but not as much.
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Reply #54 posted 08/10/07 7:28pm

rebelsoldier

I think the term shit-hop should be banned. It was cute in the beginning but now it's just damn pathetic cause some people are so ignorant/lazy that they won't look beyond MTV/BET.
Hiphop is not TPain, Akon, 50 cent etc they are pop stars that rap to sell records.

Hiphop is K-os, Kannan, Q-Tip, Lyrics Born, Outkast, The Roots, Dead Prez, Pharoahe monch, Mr Lif, Little Brother, Nas.
Do some research people

How do funk fans feel when people say they listen do disco, I fucking hate it.
How do rock fans feel when they see you folks diggin Fall out boy and All American rejects?
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Reply #55 posted 08/10/07 7:38pm

GangstaFam

where's damo?
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Reply #56 posted 08/10/07 9:35pm

MsLegs

Anxiety said:

i respect him because he's tried to rack up some credibility as a serious musician over the past decade, and he's done some adequate acting, and he seems like he's good to his fans and has a good sense of humor about himself...just don't make me listen to his music. ill

nod Agreed. There's only a one or two songs that I can remotely tolerate by him.
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Reply #57 posted 08/10/07 10:41pm

lastdecember

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JesseDezz said:

lastdecember said:

The thing is, say what you will but there is an art to writing a pop song or ballad or whatever, and seriously no one seems to be able to do it anymore. Jovi is no Dylan, but he also didnt live through the time that Dylan lived through.


And Dylan also didn't have "song doctor" Desmond Child assisting in the song writing. That paint-by-numbers approach to songwriting has hindered Bon Jovi ever since they hooked up with him. It goes something like this:

Us against them lyrics/cliches - check.
Catchy, pump-your-fist chorus - check.
Brief, not too flashy Richie Sambora solo - check.

So, a lot of blame/credit goes to Desmond Child. Then again, any more Jon Bon Jovi attempts at writing lyrics like "I french kiss the morning" (Bed of Roses) might have me puking my guts out.

That being said, I like Bon Jovi. They come up with catchy, albeit predictable tunes that are extremely radio-friendly - nothing adventurous, nothing that deviates too much from the Bon Jovi formula. I dig Richie Sambora's playing, and I think he's a better vocalist than Jon, though his solo albums have featured the same earnest, cliche-ridden lyrics and overwrought singing...

I gotta give my fellow Jersey boys props for still hanging in there all these years. They hit upon a formula and stuck with it, for better or worse. And you know what? That country-tinged song, "Who Says You Can't Go Home" is CATCHY as hell....


True to a certain extnet. Jovi have used Child, but he still has written a very small % of their songs with them, some of them released as singles, mostly ballads, which he aslo did for Aerosmith and lots of others, so i really cant fault them for it, because look at all the people that used Dianne Warren to write with, and now Linda perry has become the new "diane Warren" so really they all use songwriters to work with when they need a big single, which is always commissioned by a label. Jovi are from that time period where you had to write the catchy song, cliche as it may be, someone has to do it. But to me having followed them through it all, i respect longevity, not only that Jon is one of the smartest business men ever what he has done with that band worldwide is truly amazing, and also owning it all, once again pure genius in business and he should be respected for that. I mean there are tons of artists from his day, from the Hard Rock days that either are dead or just dead broke because they spent all their money on drugs, Jon has always led that band like a "mafia" almost, NO one on the outside knows are business, i think was Jons quote, and i think that is a reason why they still are here, plus the millions of fans round the world kinda help too.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #58 posted 08/11/07 2:05am

novabrkr

Wasting time hating some bubblegum rock band from the 80s is pretty silly. Despite being still active today, they belong to a whole different era with completely different standards for aesthetic appreciation - and you know, I can even enjoy other 80s cheesy stuff like the Karate Kid movies once in a while these days without any problem. It's not avant-garde but if you hear a song like that while shopping in the supermarket it's more than welcome.

Altough I can't believe I thought You Give Love A Bad Name was one of the "best-written songs ever" when I was 14. Actually I thought the same of Janet Jackson's "Black Cat" too. lol
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Reply #59 posted 08/11/07 4:42am

Ace

Hate the Jovi. Besides the fact that their music is corny, cliche-ridden crap, they always seem to get lumped in with Springsteen and tar my man's good name. The Jov aren't smart enough to realize what makes Bruce great, instead they just mimic the trappings of the stuff he wrote when he was in his twenties. rolleyes

I like to refer to the Jovster as "the retarded Springsteen".

Anybody mention this yet?: http://youtube.com/watch?v=-6UBYSrAdjI falloff
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