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Printableehuffnsd said: LightOfArt said: How did this rumour about Prince writing Like A Prayer start? It seems to never go away. Prince did not write all the great songs from the 80s people
 because there is a rumored cover in the vault. but you don't see people claiming he wrote One of Us. the absurd thing is even though the song is clearly credited to P.Leonard and Madonna people claim Prince gave it away and did not ask for credit ooh and Prince's cover of One Of Us is  | |
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LightOfArt said: ehuffnsd said: because there is a rumored cover in the vault. but you don't see people claiming he wrote One of Us. the absurd thing is even though the song is clearly credited to P.Leonard and Madonna people claim Prince gave it away and did not ask for credit ooh and Prince's cover of One Of Us is OMG I love princes version of One Of Us | |
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LightOfArt said: ehuffnsd said: because there is a rumored cover in the vault. but you don't see people claiming he wrote One of Us. the absurd thing is even though the song is clearly credited to P.Leonard and Madonna people claim Prince gave it away and did not ask for credit ooh and Prince's cover of One Of Us is We all know that P wouldn't "give" away a songwriting credit...especially a hit as big as "Like A Prayer". I believe he did play guitar on "Act of Contribution" (on the maxi of Like a Prayer), I don't believe he had anything to do with the track. BTW, I like P's version of "One of Us". [Edited 8/7/07 13:42pm] **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: LightOfArt said: the absurd thing is even though the song is clearly credited to P.Leonard and Madonna people claim Prince gave it away and did not ask for credit ooh and Prince's cover of One Of Us is We all know that P wouldn't "give" away a songwriting credit...especially a hit as big as "Like A Prayer". I believe he did play guitar on "Act of Contribution" (on the maxi of Like a Prayer), I don't believe he had anything to do with the track. BTW, I like P's version of "One of Us". [Edited 8/7/07 13:42pm] yes he played guitar on act of contrition and LAP. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: superspaceboy said: I think she might need a certain midgets permission for that one. Didn't Prince write Like a Prayer, Love SOng and played the music on Act of contrition? He co-wrote Love Song. Patrick Leonnard has confirmed Madge came to him with the lyrics and melody of Like A Prayer. And why would he have say over an album that isn't his, it's a guest appereance? I was being facetious. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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ehuffnsd said: superspaceboy said: One does have to wonder why much of her catalog has not been updated with remasters...just the first 3. same reason WBR hasn't remastered Prince's for some reason they need the artist permission and if she doesn't want to give it they can't. Then one should wonder why she hasn't given them permission. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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LightOfArt said: How did this rumour about Prince writing Like A Prayer start? It seems to never go away. Prince did not write all the great songs from the 80s people
Because Prince told me himself.  Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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ehuffnsd said: LightOfArt said: How did this rumour about Prince writing Like A Prayer start? It seems to never go away. Prince did not write all the great songs from the 80s people
because there is a rumored cover in the vault. but you don't see people claiming he wrote One of Us. Is that why? I always wondered where it got started as well. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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LightOfArt said: ehuffnsd said: because there is a rumored cover in the vault. but you don't see people claiming he wrote One of Us. the absurd thing is even though the song is clearly credited to P.Leonard and Madonna people claim Prince gave it away and did not ask for credit ooh and Prince's cover of One Of Us is Why is it absurd? I think if there is one thing that we do know about Prince, is that song credits where he is concerned...musically and lyrically...are pretty suspect at times. I also think that people want to believe there was another collaboration on LAP that didn't sound like doody! Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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daPrettyman said: LightOfArt said: the absurd thing is even though the song is clearly credited to P.Leonard and Madonna people claim Prince gave it away and did not ask for credit ooh and Prince's cover of One Of Us is We all know that P wouldn't "give" away a songwriting credit...especially a hit as big as "Like A Prayer". I believe he did play guitar on "Act of Contribution" (on the maxi of Like a Prayer), I don't believe he had anything to do with the track. BTW, I like P's version of "One of Us". [Edited 8/7/07 13:42pm] So you don't believe that he wouldn't give away a song without credit, yet would allow himself to be credited as "The Powers that Be" on Act of Contrition? Him giving her a hit like that would certainly explain his weird letter to her in the 90's. Why would he reach out to Madonna like that...just cuz they are on the same label? I think he did, cuz he figured she owed him one. At least that's what I'd like to believe. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: ehuffnsd said: because there is a rumored cover in the vault. but you don't see people claiming he wrote One of Us. Is that why? I always wondered where it got started as well. i believe so. Bart would know if you wanna pop in the prince forum and ask him. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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superspaceboy said: daPrettyman said: We all know that P wouldn't "give" away a songwriting credit...especially a hit as big as "Like A Prayer". I believe he did play guitar on "Act of Contribution" (on the maxi of Like a Prayer), I don't believe he had anything to do with the track. BTW, I like P's version of "One of Us". [Edited 8/7/07 13:42pm] So you don't believe that he wouldn't give away a song without credit, yet would allow himself to be credited as "The Powers that Be" on Act of Contrition? Him giving her a hit like that would certainly explain his weird letter to her in the 90's. Why would he reach out to Madonna like that...just cuz they are on the same label? I think he did, cuz he figured she owed him one. At least that's what I'd like to believe. we know how lawsuit happy the little man is, you'd think he go after someone who has the money to pay. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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superspaceboy said: SoulAlive said: If she owns them,let's send her a note asking her to remaster 'Like A Prayer' I think she might need a certain midgets permission for that one. Didn't Prince write Like a Prayer, Love SOng and played the music on Act of contrition? PRINCE DID NOT WRITE LAP! Are you crazy??? | |
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superspaceboy said: daPrettyman said: We all know that P wouldn't "give" away a songwriting credit...especially a hit as big as "Like A Prayer". I believe he did play guitar on "Act of Contribution" (on the maxi of Like a Prayer), I don't believe he had anything to do with the track. BTW, I like P's version of "One of Us". [Edited 8/7/07 13:42pm] So you don't believe that he wouldn't give away a song without credit, yet would allow himself to be credited as "The Powers that Be" on Act of Contrition? Him giving her a hit like that would certainly explain his weird letter to her in the 90's. Why would he reach out to Madonna like that...just cuz they are on the same label? I think he did, cuz he figured she owed him one. At least that's what I'd like to believe. WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!! The Powers that Be are Madonna and Pat Leonard. Early pressings (and very rare and scarce ones) of the LAP singlefeature them as the producers of that track.It was later changed! Here's the proof: Pat Leonard is God. No really, stick with me - I have proof! Now, anyone with a pair of ears knows that Madonna's 'Like A Prayer' is quite obviously the best song of all time. Now we have that established, we should turn ourselves to the single. The choir-tastic Like A Prayer hit No.1 in every country that matters, and rightly so. All those clever, tasteful people in the UK who bought the single also got the bonus B-side; the not-quite-as-good Act Of Contrition. Upon flipping over their newly purchased slab of vinyl the early buyers would have seen that the reason the single was quite so amazing was because there appeared to have been some higher power involved in its creation. 
Odd and intriguing, I think you'll agree. But quite exciting in an X-Files, Dan Brown mysterious kind of way. Sadly, the mystery of who the 'Powers That Be' were, didn't take especially long to be revealed as, by the time the second pressings of the single rolled around, Sire UK decided to own up that The Lord hadn't been twiddling the knobs for 'Act', it had in fact been.... *drum roll* : 
Thus - Madonna is God. But we all knew that already. But the big news is that Pat Leonard is also God. Case closed. And here he is with his slightly unnervingly piercing gaze...he knows about your reservation, your name's in his computer etc etc... Source: http://www.madonnatribe.c...le&sid=367 [Edited 8/7/07 17:55pm] [Edited 8/7/07 17:56pm] | |
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superspaceboy said: SoulAlive said: according to a recent article in the Daily Mail,Madonna has big things planned:
After a short break with her film-director husband Guy Richie and their children,Madonna will then be working non-stop until mid-2008.The finishing touches still have to be added to her new album.After the new record is released in November,she is getting ready for a world tour that kicks off next June,then she is launching a 25th anniversary box set and a set of 12 children's books.  I question this too. I had heard about the books, though not 12 of them...and of course the new album. But a tour as well? I know she has been the touring bunny for a while and can certainly sell tix, but I would think that she'd take a break a little from touring. Though the 25th anniversary box set is interesting (and needed). Madonna has gotten comfortable with this routine: Release a new CD every two years,and do a 3-month world tour every other summer.She's not gonna take a break from touring,so start saving yor money now  | |
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MikeMatronik said: WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!! ..a long ass read.. wow
you're quite knowledgable when it come to Hagdonna, eh? And I think Act Of Contrition rocks...I loved how it was used as an intro to LAP on blond ambition. And isnt AOC LAP reversed? | |
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superspaceboy said: LightOfArt said: the absurd thing is even though the song is clearly credited to P.Leonard and Madonna people claim Prince gave it away and did not ask for credit ooh and Prince's cover of One Of Us is Why is it absurd? I think if there is one thing that we do know about Prince, is that song credits where he is concerned...musically and lyrically...are pretty suspect at times. I also think that people want to believe there was another collaboration on LAP that didn't sound like doody That might be it  Love Song and Cherish are my least favourites on that album | |
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sosgemini said: cha know, if madge doesnt own her masters now then wb has an excellent bargaining chip.
ownership of her masters could be part of a new contract.She should consider this really carefully.I think that Prince could have gotten ownership of his masters by now,if he hadn't behaved like a drama queen about it Madonna is shrewd,she won't make that same mistake. | |
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MikeMatronik said: superspaceboy said: I think she might need a certain midgets permission for that one. Didn't Prince write Like a Prayer, Love SOng and played the music on Act of contrition? PRINCE DID NOT WRITE LAP! Are you crazy??? No, not crazy! Obviously there are rumors out there that Prince had SOME involvement with AOC and LAP...be it even guitar playing. No one knows for sure. Just because hers and patricks name are on the credits doesn't necessarily mean that Prince had no invlovement in either song. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: No, not crazy! Obviously there are rumors out there that Prince had SOME involvement with AOC and LAP...be it even guitar playing. No one knows for sure. Just because hers and patricks name are on the credits doesn't necessarily mean that Prince had no invlovement in either song.
Whilst sending tapes back and forth to each other whilst creating 'Love Song', Madonna sent Prince a rough demo of 'Like A Prayer'. Prince liked the song so much that he recorded a guitar solo (without being asked to contribute) and sent it to Madonna. The beginning of this guitar solo can be heard in it's original state during the closing moments of the 7" version of 'Like A Prayer'. It doesn't appear on any other version. The 7" version fades out quite quickly after the guitar solo appears. However, 'Act Of Contrition' is basically parts of the same guitar solo, cut-up, reversed and generally mashed-up beyond recognition. So, now you know. Oh - The 7" version of 'Like A Prayer' has only appeared on CD, on the US 3" CD Single and the Japanese 5" CD Maxi Single. | |
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Also...in regards to the SONG 'Love Song' we are all in agreement that Prince and Madonna penned this song right? SO... under that reckoning.....
Prince along with Stuart Price, The boys from Abba, and Madonna is a contributing songwriter on the Hit Song 'Hung Up'.... ..."Time Goes By So Slowly 4 Those Who Wait....No Time 2 Hesitate...Those Who Run Seem 2 Have All The Fun..." “Love Song” Writer(s): Madonna, Prince Producer(s): Madonna and Prince "Time goes by so slowly for those who wait And those who run seem to have all the fun But are you wasting my time -- she's so fine Are you just being kind" According to wikipedia Hung Up has become one of the most successful singles of all time, reaching number one in a record breaking forty-one countries. The United World Chart ranks "Hung Up" as the fourth most successful single since 1999 (behind Cher's Believe, Shakira's Hips Don't Lie and James Blunt's You're Beautiful. So Prince gets his share of that people! [Edited 8/8/07 12:21pm] Luminous beings are we...not this crude matter.
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YODAHENDRIX said: Also...in regards to the SONG 'Love Song' we are all in agreement that Prince and Madonna penned this song right? SO... under that reckoning.....
Prince along with Stuart Price, The boys from Abba, and Madonna is a contributing songwriter on the Hit Song 'Hung Up'.... ..."Time Goes By So Slowly 4 Those Who Wait....No Time 2 Hesitate...Those Who Run Seem 2 Have All The Fun..." “Love Song” Writer(s): Madonna, Prince Producer(s): Madonna and Prince "Time goes by so slowly for those who wait And those who run seem to have all the fun But are you wasting my time -- she's so fine Are you just being kind" According to wikipedia Hung Up has become one of the most successful singles of all time, reaching number one in a record breaking forty-one countries. The United World Chart ranks "Hung Up" as the fourth most successful single since 1999 (behind Cher's Believe, Shakira's Hips Don't Lie and James Blunt's You're Beautiful. So Prince gets his share of that people! [Edited 8/8/07 12:21pm] I think we are all in agreeance to the above...except for Prince getting any share of credits or $$$ for Hung Up. Seeing as they supposedly sent tapes back and forth for Lovesong, who knows who came up with the lyric that ended up on Hung Up. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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SoulAlive said: sosgemini said: cha know, if madge doesnt own her masters now then wb has an excellent bargaining chip.
ownership of her masters could be part of a new contract.She should consider this really carefully.I think that Prince could have gotten ownership of his masters by now,if he hadn't behaved like a drama queen about it Madonna is shrewd,she won't make that same mistake.It's not the masters (ie. physical recordings) that are at stake, but rather the intellectual copyrights. Madonna along with most contemporary artists have signed off these to the record company (as you can see from the (c) and (p) Warner Records -texts in the sleeves), and that's where the record companies are making most of their profits. Prince was in a bad position because he had several albums in his contract left, but at the very least he would have received the rights to all his new material had he stayed at Warner... In the long run it's more profitable to have the copyrights, and both parties know that. | |
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superspaceboy said: YODAHENDRIX said: Also...in regards to the SONG 'Love Song' we are all in agreement that Prince and Madonna penned this song right? SO... under that reckoning.....
Prince along with Stuart Price, The boys from Abba, and Madonna is a contributing songwriter on the Hit Song 'Hung Up'.... ..."Time Goes By So Slowly 4 Those Who Wait....No Time 2 Hesitate...Those Who Run Seem 2 Have All The Fun..." “Love Song” Writer(s): Madonna, Prince Producer(s): Madonna and Prince "Time goes by so slowly for those who wait And those who run seem to have all the fun But are you wasting my time -- she's so fine Are you just being kind" According to wikipedia Hung Up has become one of the most successful singles of all time, reaching number one in a record breaking forty-one countries. The United World Chart ranks "Hung Up" as the fourth most successful single since 1999 (behind Cher's Believe, Shakira's Hips Don't Lie and James Blunt's You're Beautiful. So Prince gets his share of that people! [Edited 8/8/07 12:21pm] I think we are all in agreeance to the above...except for Prince getting any share of credits or $$$ for Hung Up. Seeing as they supposedly sent tapes back and forth for Lovesong, who knows who came up with the lyric that ended up on Hung Up. yeah, i agree....its not a sample so if madge came up with those lyrics then he gets a big ole piece of zero. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: superspaceboy said: I think we are all in agreeance to the above...except for Prince getting any share of credits or $$$ for Hung Up. Seeing as they supposedly sent tapes back and forth for Lovesong, who knows who came up with the lyric that ended up on Hung Up. yeah, i agree....its not a sample so if madge came up with those lyrics then he gets a big ole piece of zero. Even if he came up with them, does he have a claim to $$$. Lovesong is Madonna's and he could have easily said "this is yours" "just give me credit on the album." Cuz if I were him, I would never have released the song on my album. Still can't believe she did, but then again she put Perish...er cherish on that album too. 
But I moreso think she's a saavy gal and would not have included anything that wasn't hers. [Edited 8/8/07 14:03pm] Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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SoulAlive said: MikeMatronik said: Madonna OWNS them U2 OWNS them Pet Shop Boys OWNS them David Bowie OWNS then Can I go on? If she owns them,let's send her a note asking her to remaster 'Like A Prayer'  | |
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MikeMatronik said: SoulAlive said: Does she really own her masters?  She's Madonna...I think this answers it "We'd love to keep her and we'll make an aggressive bid," said one person close to Warner. Should Madonna leave Warner, the company would retain her recorded music catalogue and publishing rights but her defection would be a symbolic blow. In other words, The WB Music Group will STILL have the masters AND publishing rights.  | |
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superspaceboy said: MikeMatronik said: PRINCE DID NOT WRITE LAP! Are you crazy??? No, not crazy! Obviously there are rumors out there that Prince had SOME involvement with AOC and LAP...be it even guitar playing. No one knows for sure. Just because hers and patricks name are on the credits doesn't necessarily mean that Prince had no invlovement in either song. Believe me...it's not true! Also Prince claimed in a concert that he wrote Janet's "What have you done for me lately?"... | |
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superspaceboy said: sosgemini said: yeah, i agree....its not a sample so if madge came up with those lyrics then he gets a big ole piece of zero. Even if he came up with them, does he have a claim to $$$. Lovesong is Madonna's and he could have easily said "this is yours" "just give me credit on the album." Cuz if I were him, I would never have released the song on my album. Still can't believe she did, but then again she put Perish...er cherish on that album too.
But I moreso think she's a saavy gal and would not have included anything that wasn't hers. [Edited 8/8/07 14:03pm] Madonna usually suplies the lyrics...the producers the melody. So Prince doesn't have any claim on those lyrics. If so, Wendy and lisa should have sued Prince's white midget ass because he stole songs like Power Fantastic and other tunes we all know. | |
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MikeMatronik said: cream72 said: bullshit madonna will not own her masters what artist does these days well a certain smart ass midget does  Madonna OWNS them U2 OWNS them Pet Shop Boys OWNS them David Bowie OWNS then Can I go on? i want a link please... if she owns her masters,, please proove it????? | |
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