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GUESS WHO'S FINALLY GOING TO TRIAL!!!!!

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #1 posted 08/01/07 11:40pm

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It's about damn time.
Ooh, little darlin' if you're
free 4 a couple of hours (Free 4 a couple of hours)
If U ain't busy 4 the next 7 years (Next 7 years)
Say, let's pretend we're married and go all night
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Reply #2 posted 08/02/07 12:25am

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Just in time for fall Sweeps. Why am I not surprised by that?
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Reply #3 posted 08/02/07 2:32am

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he aint going to jail lol
what ha sit been 4 5 years? lol
All the witnesses are legal now lol
wtf is the prosecution gonna do? lol
I know he's as guilty as sin. But he aint going to jail
Wish he was though, just so i don't have to hear anymore fuckin Trapped in the Closet sequals!
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Reply #4 posted 08/02/07 5:10am

IAintTheOne

this was all a ploy, dude aint goin to jail its been to long...
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Reply #5 posted 08/02/07 7:49am

mrsnet

Kelly deserves whatever he gets, fo real. His behavior is sick. But why is our system so racist when dealing with pedophiles? I mean PETE TOWNSEND was so into child porn. They found it all over the guy's computer! And was he even arrested? Let alone being charged. Then there's KELSEY GRAHAM with his child bride. DON JOHNSON courted a 15 year old Melanie Griffith. I remember on some talk show they laughed about Don Johnson liking nothing but young girls. Videos of Rob Lowe with underage girls (as young as 13) surfaced, and it died down. We won't even mention Woody Allen. Was he ever charged with a crime? Liberace The late great Liberace was known to have teen age boy lovers. And of course Elvis had Priscilla to move in when she was 14! And had had other young girls before Priscilla! It's not fair how these white pedophiles are ignored. Let them get the same treatment as R Kelly. And what they've done to an INNOCENT man named Michael Jackson is unconscionable. They found NO, NADA child porn on Mike's computer. Yet they put him through that horrible trial. And Townsend doesn't even get arrested. OT, sorry, but it's so unfair.
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Reply #6 posted 08/02/07 7:54am

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mrsnet said:

Kelly deserves whatever he gets, fo real. His behavior is sick. But why is our system so racist when dealing with pedophiles? I mean PETE TOWNSEND was so into child porn. They found it all over the guy's computer! And was he even arrested? Let alone being charged. Then there's KELSEY GRAHAM with his child bride. DON JOHNSON courted a 15 year old Melanie Griffith. I remember on some talk show they laughed about Don Johnson liking nothing but young girls. Videos of Rob Lowe with underage girls (as young as 13) surfaced, and it died down. We won't even mention Woody Allen. Was he ever charged with a crime? Liberace The late great Liberace was known to have teen age boy lovers. And of course Elvis had Priscilla to move in when she was 14! And had had other young girls before Priscilla! It's not fair how these white pedophiles are ignored. Let them get the same treatment as R Kelly. And what they've done to an INNOCENT man named Michael Jackson is unconscionable. They found NO, NADA child porn on Mike's computer. Yet they put him through that horrible trial. And Townsend doesn't even get arrested. OT, sorry, but it's so unfair.


Actually, they didn't find any child porn on Pete's computer; he had just paid for a subscription to a child porn website. If they had, he would have been officially charged, but the charges were dropped because of that. I believe Pete when he says that he was only researching for a book; mostly because the book's copyright had been registered several years prior.

I agree with you about Michael, though. It amazes me how there's such a stigmata against him, when Kelly is actually a pedophile, and nobody really cares. mad
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Reply #7 posted 08/02/07 8:12am

mrsnet

ProgRocker said:

mrsnet said:

Kelly deserves whatever he gets, fo real. His behavior is sick. But why is our system so racist when dealing with pedophiles? I mean PETE TOWNSEND was so into child porn. They found it all over the guy's computer! And was he even arrested? Let alone being charged. Then there's KELSEY GRAHAM with his child bride. DON JOHNSON courted a 15 year old Melanie Griffith. I remember on some talk show they laughed about Don Johnson liking nothing but young girls. Videos of Rob Lowe with underage girls (as young as 13) surfaced, and it died down. We won't even mention Woody Allen. Was he ever charged with a crime? Liberace The late great Liberace was known to have teen age boy lovers. And of course Elvis had Priscilla to move in when she was 14! And had had other young girls before Priscilla! It's not fair how these white pedophiles are ignored. Let them get the same treatment as R Kelly. And what they've done to an INNOCENT man named Michael Jackson is unconscionable. They found NO, NADA child porn on Mike's computer. Yet they put him through that horrible trial. And Townsend doesn't even get arrested. OT, sorry, but it's so unfair.


Actually, they didn't find any child porn on Pete's computer; he had just paid for a subscription to a child porn website. If they had, he would have been officially charged, but the charges were dropped because of that. I believe Pete when he says that he was only researching for a book; mostly because the book's copyright had been registered several years prior.

I agree with you about Michael, though. It amazes me how there's such a stigmata against him, when Kelly is actually a pedophile, and nobody really cares. mad

Prog - What about the WHITE pedophiles? There IS a lot of hate toward Kelly, but NOT these other GUILTY men I've listed. And I do NOT, for a minute, believe that nonsense by Townsend about doing research. And believe me, I am NOT alone. So I will agree to disagree with you re. that. But I'm amazed at the racism. THAT'S what I'm annoyed about. Elvis was the indisputed pedophile, and no one says anything about it. Instead they pin the label on an innocent man. But this is too far OT so I'm outta here.
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Reply #8 posted 08/02/07 8:18am

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mrsnet said:

ProgRocker said:



Actually, they didn't find any child porn on Pete's computer; he had just paid for a subscription to a child porn website. If they had, he would have been officially charged, but the charges were dropped because of that. I believe Pete when he says that he was only researching for a book; mostly because the book's copyright had been registered several years prior.

I agree with you about Michael, though. It amazes me how there's such a stigmata against him, when Kelly is actually a pedophile, and nobody really cares. mad

Prog - What about the WHITE pedophiles? There IS a lot of hate toward Kelly, but NOT these other GUILTY men I've listed. And I do NOT, for a minute, believe that nonsense by Townsend about doing research. And believe me, I am NOT alone. So I will agree to disagree with you re. that. But I'm amazed at the racism. THAT'S what I'm annoyed about. Elvis was the indisputed pedophile, and no one says anything about it. Instead they pin the label on an innocent man. But this is too far OT so I'm outta here.


I get what you mean about double standards, especially in the case of Rob Lowe, which is similar to Kelly's in that there was videotaped evidence.

White peadophiles get convicted and ruined - at least in the UK. See the case of Gary Glitter.

As for Pete Townshend, he was actually innocent and is not a paedophile.

"As part of the Operation Ore investigations, Townshend was cautioned by the police in 2003 after acknowledging a credit card access in 1999 to the Landslide website alleged to advertise child pornography.[9][10] He claimed in the press and on his website to have been engaged in research for A Different Bomb (a now-abandoned book based on an anti-child pornography essay published on his website in January 2002), his autobiography and as part of a campaign against child pornography. The police searched his house and confiscated 14 computers and other materials and after a four-month forensic investigation confirmed that they had found no evidence of child abuse images. Consequently, the police offered a caution rather than pressing charges, issuing a statement: "After four months of investigation by officers from Scotland Yard's child protection group, it was established that Mr Townshend was not in possession of any downloaded child abuse images." In a statement issued by his solicitor [11], Townshend said, "I accept that I was wrong to access this site, and that by doing so, I broke the law, and I have accepted the caution that the police have given me." As a statutory consequence of accepting the caution, Townshend was entered on the Violent and Sex Offender Register for five years[12]. This would normally prevent travel abroad, but in Townshend's case such restrictions have been waived, making possible his numerous concert performances with and without The Who since receiving the caution.
A later investigator stated that he was "falsely accused".[13] After obtaining copies of the Landslide hard drives and tracing Townshend's actions, investigative journalist Duncan Campbell wrote in PC Pro Magazine, "Under pressure of the media filming of the raid, Townshend appears to have confessed to something he didn't do." Campbell states that Townshend accessed a single site which was not connected with child pornography.[14]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._Townshend
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Reply #9 posted 08/02/07 8:36am

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....sick fuck.
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Reply #10 posted 08/07/07 12:01pm

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I love MJ but actually, they DID find pictures of shirtless young boys in his bedroom along with child pornography mags...
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Reply #11 posted 08/07/07 12:03pm

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NAMOR3000 said:

I love MJ but actually, they DID find pictures of shirtless young boys in his bedroom along with child pornography mags...


rolleyes
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Reply #12 posted 08/07/07 12:24pm

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In Don Johnsons defense he was a minor at the time also. I get your point but was with Melanie and they were two young lovers on drugs. As far as Michael, well i used to defend him, but, he actually paid people off, i mean he settled out of court in one of the early cases, that to me is a form of admitting some kind of guilt. To me if youre not guilty, you should be out there screaming about injustice and sueing the accusers for slandering your name. But more and more im seeing this, settling out of court, which is the Rich man/womans way out of it. Whether its Paris Hilton, R Kelly or Pete Townshend they all buy their way out.
[Edited 8/7/07 12:27pm]

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Reply #13 posted 08/07/07 5:01pm

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DON'T FORGET..

Roman Polanski. :cough:

mrsnet said:

Kelly deserves whatever he gets, fo real. His behavior is sick. But why is our system so racist when dealing with pedophiles? I mean PETE TOWNSEND was so into child porn. They found it all over the guy's computer! And was he even arrested? Let alone being charged. Then there's KELSEY GRAHAM with his child bride. DON JOHNSON courted a 15 year old Melanie Griffith. I remember on some talk show they laughed about Don Johnson liking nothing but young girls. Videos of Rob Lowe with underage girls (as young as 13) surfaced, and it died down. We won't even mention Woody Allen. Was he ever charged with a crime? Liberace The late great Liberace was known to have teen age boy lovers. And of course Elvis had Priscilla to move in when she was 14! And had had other young girls before Priscilla! It's not fair how these white pedophiles are ignored. Let them get the same treatment as R Kelly. And what they've done to an INNOCENT man named Michael Jackson is unconscionable. They found NO, NADA child porn on Mike's computer. Yet they put him through that horrible trial. And Townsend doesn't even get arrested. OT, sorry, but it's so unfair.
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Reply #14 posted 08/07/07 5:04pm

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NO. THEY DIDN'T.

NAMOR3000 said:

I love MJ but actually, they DID find pictures of shirtless young boys in his bedroom along with child pornography mags...
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Reply #15 posted 08/08/07 6:36am

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"That'll boy will be jus' fine. Tell him 'ol Jerry Lee says: 'I been there and I dun that'. And same goes for that sumabitch Phil Spector. I been there and dun that too."



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Reply #16 posted 08/08/07 1:19pm

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NO. THEY DIDN'T.

NAMOR3000 said:

I love MJ but actually, they DID find pictures of shirtless young boys in his bedroom along with child pornography mags...


Of course they didn't, because if they did, he would be in jail right now. Possession of child porn is a felony.

And that trial is over anyway.
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Reply #17 posted 08/12/07 1:05pm

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lastdecember said:

In Don Johnsons defense he was a minor at the time also. I get your point but was with Melanie and they were two young lovers on drugs. As far as Michael, well i used to defend him, but, he actually paid people off, i mean he settled out of court in one of the early cases, that to me is a form of admitting some kind of guilt. To me if youre not guilty, you should be out there screaming about injustice and sueing the accusers for slandering your name. But more and more im seeing this, settling out of court, which is the Rich man/womans way out of it. Whether its Paris Hilton, R Kelly or Pete Townshend they all buy their way out.
[Edited 8/7/07 12:27pm]

YET, they didn't have evidence and the kid actually told people close to him Michael never touched him.
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Reply #18 posted 08/12/07 1:56pm

dirtyman2005

NAMOR3000 said:

I love MJ but actually, they DID find pictures of shirtless young boys in his bedroom along with child pornography mags...



namor300 is a grade a fucking moron

dumb fuck

get ur facts straight
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Reply #19 posted 08/12/07 2:00pm

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dirtyman2005 said:

NAMOR3000 said:

I love MJ but actually, they DID find pictures of shirtless young boys in his bedroom along with child pornography mags...



namor300 is a grade a fucking moron

dumb fuck

get ur facts straight

its not nice to insult the mentally retarded lol
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EmbattledWarrior said:

dirtyman2005 said:




namor300 is a grade a fucking moron

dumb fuck

get ur facts straight

its not nice to insult the mentally retarded lol


falloff
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Reply #21 posted 08/12/07 6:26pm

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Thank you Jesus. It's been way way way too long and I hope justice prevails and isn't brought.
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Reply #22 posted 08/12/07 7:43pm

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They found pictures on his computer at his house in Miami. The marriage license with Aaliyah.....


Put that fool in jail




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Reply #23 posted 08/13/07 2:49am

Rodya24

I don't understand. Why has it taken so long for R. Kelly to be tried in court (and there is a VIDEO and a MARRIAGE LICENSE), and it took less than two years for MJ to be tried and acquited (and the prosecution had almost nothing against him to begin with)?
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Reply #24 posted 08/13/07 3:32am

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mrsnet said:


Prog - What about the WHITE pedophiles? There IS a lot of hate toward Kelly, but NOT these other GUILTY men I've listed. And I do NOT, for a minute, believe that nonsense by Townsend about doing research. And believe me, I am NOT alone. So I will agree to disagree with you re. that. But I'm amazed at the racism. THAT'S what I'm annoyed about. Elvis was the indisputed pedophile, and no one says anything about it. Instead they pin the label on an innocent man. But this is too far OT so I'm outta here.


I get what you mean about double standards, especially in the case of Rob Lowe, which is similar to Kelly's in that there was videotaped evidence.

White peadophiles get convicted and ruined - at least in the UK. See the case of Gary Glitter.

As for Pete Townshend, he was actually innocent and is not a paedophile.

"As part of the Operation Ore investigations, Townshend was cautioned by the police in 2003 after acknowledging a credit card access in 1999 to the Landslide website alleged to advertise child pornography.[9][10] He claimed in the press and on his website to have been engaged in research for A Different Bomb (a now-abandoned book based on an anti-child pornography essay published on his website in January 2002), his autobiography and as part of a campaign against child pornography. The police searched his house and confiscated 14 computers and other materials and after a four-month forensic investigation confirmed that they had found no evidence of child abuse images. Consequently, the police offered a caution rather than pressing charges, issuing a statement: "After four months of investigation by officers from Scotland Yard's child protection group, it was established that Mr Townshend was not in possession of any downloaded child abuse images." In a statement issued by his solicitor [11], Townshend said, "I accept that I was wrong to access this site, and that by doing so, I broke the law, and I have accepted the caution that the police have given me." As a statutory consequence of accepting the caution, Townshend was entered on the Violent and Sex Offender Register for five years[12]. This would normally prevent travel abroad, but in Townshend's case such restrictions have been waived, making possible his numerous concert performances with and without The Who since receiving the caution.
A later investigator stated that he was "falsely accused".[13] After obtaining copies of the Landslide hard drives and tracing Townshend's actions, investigative journalist Duncan Campbell wrote in PC Pro Magazine, "Under pressure of the media filming of the raid, Townshend appears to have confessed to something he didn't do." Campbell states that Townshend accessed a single site which was not connected with child pornography.[14]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._Townshend


When exactly is that book coming out, Pete? He's guilty as hell.
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Reply #25 posted 08/13/07 7:27am

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Damn, in all the stuff I heard about the Rob Lowe thing I never knew any of the women were actually underaged girls confused WTF?? I thought it was just a "sex scandal" & nothing more, had no idea there was that component to it disbelief

I want R. Kelly to ROT...

Woody Allen fucking sickens me...

oy!
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Reply #26 posted 08/13/07 7:38am

Rodya24

CalhounSq said:

Damn, in all the stuff I heard about the Rob Lowe thing I never knew any of the women were actually underaged girls confused WTF?? I thought it was just a "sex scandal" & nothing more, had no idea there was that component to it disbelief

I want R. Kelly to ROT...

Woody Allen fucking sickens me...

oy!


I think it is no coincidence that like in the case of R. Kelly, Woody Allen involved himself with a girl (adopted from South Korea -- one example of how an act of care and love -- his girlfriend at the time adopting someone who was abandoned -- sometimes can end up victimizing the adoptee) who is a racial minority in the US, and did not have charges pressed against him.
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Reply #27 posted 08/13/07 5:52pm

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Rodya24 said:

CalhounSq said:

Damn, in all the stuff I heard about the Rob Lowe thing I never knew any of the women were actually underaged girls confused WTF?? I thought it was just a "sex scandal" & nothing more, had no idea there was that component to it disbelief

I want R. Kelly to ROT...

Woody Allen fucking sickens me...

oy!


I think it is no coincidence that like in the case of R. Kelly, Woody Allen involved himself with a girl (adopted from South Korea -- one example of how an act of care and love -- his girlfriend at the time adopting someone who was abandoned -- sometimes can end up victimizing the adoptee) who is a racial minority in the US, and did not have charges pressed against him.

Yah but Woody is still with the adoptee, thats the difference, it was a one time offense most likely in the heat of passion.
And they're quite happy together


And she probably gets his estate as soon as he croaks,
so for the money he's got, i'd let him fuck me when i was 13
Not to condone that, but hey money makes the world go round
and who knows maybe it was actually love.
Theres a very thin line with this subject,
it's like the book Lolita by Nabakov, sometimes its the alleged victim who's the victimizer.
But when it comes to Kelly, i can't play devils advocate,
He's a moron and got everything thats coming to him.
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Reply #28 posted 08/13/07 6:06pm

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EmbattledWarrior said:

so for the money he's got, i'd let him fuck me when i was 13


lol
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Reply #29 posted 08/13/07 6:16pm

Rodya24

EmbattledWarrior said:

Rodya24 said:



I think it is no coincidence that like in the case of R. Kelly, Woody Allen involved himself with a girl (adopted from South Korea -- one example of how an act of care and love -- his girlfriend at the time adopting someone who was abandoned -- sometimes can end up victimizing the adoptee) who is a racial minority in the US, and did not have charges pressed against him.

Yah but Woody is still with the adoptee, thats the difference, it was a one time offense most likely in the heat of passion.
And they're quite happy together


And she probably gets his estate as soon as he croaks,
so for the money he's got, i'd let him fuck me when i was 13
Not to condone that, but hey money makes the world go round
and who knows maybe it was actually love.
Theres a very thin line with this subject,
it's like the book Lolita by Nabakov, sometimes its the alleged victim who's the victimizer.
But when it comes to Kelly, i can't play devils advocate,
He's a moron and got everything thats coming to him.
[Edited 8/13/07 17:53pm]


But in the novel Lolita, Nabokov also makes it clear that the main character, Humbert, is responsible. Re-read the last scene in which he laments how Lo's childhood was taken away from her -- that he could not hear her voice among the children playing. Moreover, the story is told from Humbert's perspective -- a vain character who is more than capable of telling a tale for his gain. Nabokov himself said that Lolita was the end product of his "love affair with the English language." He was celebrating the English tongue, even its twisted but effective ability to portray a pedophile as a scorned lover. But I digress...

I think the question here is not whether there is "a very thin line with this subject" which I disagree with. It is how society perceives relationships between men and young girls who are racial minorities. I wonder if Woody Allen would have been prosecuted if the adoptee was a white American.

And yes, I agree. R. Kelly is a moron.
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